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1 hour ago, BigRedBuster said:

Maybe if Whipple comes to the realization to start Smothers instead of Purdy, we have a chance. 

Purdy's ceiling may be higher than Smother's but what matters is what you do when the bullets are flying and Purdy has been incompetent the last two weeks. You can work around Smothers not having a big arm better than you can work around Purdy not being able to settle-down and hit the broad side of a barn. 

8 hours ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said:

 

Took him 8 years to get WF turned around. We don't have the patience nor the time.

 

 

 

Not really. Dude started having winning seasons back in 2016,  which is a major achievement at a program where he has less to work with than any other P5 school in country. Took til 2021 to start competing for conference championships. Turnaround would be WAY quicker here. It's the transfer-portal and NIL era, he can get instant help here he couldn't at WF. He'd have much more to recruit to with our VASTLY superior stadium, facilities, and tradiiton. He'd have much more money/cache to optimize his staff with, our coaching would likely be up a notch from Wake's

I know his pressers would be legendary but I would not hire Pootie Tang to coach Nebraska.

22 hours ago, notcorn said:

Link?

No link needed, just living in reality. First, Sanders just doesn't have the resume, very unlikely Trev will think he's qualfied. Dude has two seasons coaching in FCS, and we're talking the SWAC here, not even like he coaches in the Missouri Valley against the better FCS teams. Second, hiring Sanders would piss-off WAY too many people with money and power. Why did Frost get another season when it was obvious Trev didn't really believe in the move? Because folks with stroke wanted to give Frost another season. The folks that keep the program flush are more important than ever in the NIL era and Trev needs a hire that will make a lot of them happy so the money keeps flowing. Third, it would be Trev's career on the line, if he makes this risky hire and it doesn't work-out he will not get to make another one. There's too much going against the move for it to happen. 

39 minutes ago, Red Silk Smoking Jacket said:

 

So, we've gone from "he's not good enough for us" to "he's turning us down?"

 

Trev is not offering Deon in the first place AND I doubt Deon wants to come to Nebraska anyway. A job in his southeast stomping grounds will come calling sooner or later. 

Was really disappointed by our tackling against Purdue. I hope we're really working on it with the extra prep time. Getting Reimers back should help. 

10 hours ago, Hayseed said:

Deion Sanders recruited a top player away from Alabama by convincing him to "play for his people" at an HBCU against other HBCUs. Doing that and playing against that competition has very little correlation to coaching a P5 team. There's no guarantee he can recruit anyone to Nebraska any better than another coach can.
Given the choice between Sanders and Joseph, I'm sticking with Joseph.

If we're going with a guy of questionable resume I also would rather go with Mickey. When it comes to bringing kids to Nebraska I think he'd do fairly comparably to Neon. Mickey knows the landscape and culture here. Mickey would put in the ridiculous hours needed that Frost wouldn't. I like Mickey's demeanor and how he interacts with the kids, knows when to be supportive and when to be tough. Big thing I would want to know about Mick is who his staff would be, that's absolutely huge. There are several reasonable options I'd take before Mickey but with the right staff I can see Mickey working. 

20 hours ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said:

 

Yeah but look how long it took. It wasn't til Year 8 at Wake that they had a breakout season. I don't think Nebraska has that much patience. 

He has had winning seasons at Wake since 2016 and as I've repeatedly tried to explain it is a damn tough place to win at, everyone in their con is working with significantly more. Last guy to do anything there was wanted by TO, things hit a snag because Grobe wanted to bring his own guys in, and Grobe was coaching in a considerably inferior ACC to now. Nebraska is WAY easier to turn around. We can provide VASTLY superior facilities, a VASTLY superior stadium , VASTLY more money for his staffing and recruiting needs, and VASTLY more NIL money to get and keep talent here. Not to mention the transfer portal makes things easier now. Patience wouldn't be needed. 

14 hours ago, 84HuskerLaw said:

Sadly, it seemed like our defenders sort of regressed back into their ‘Chin mode’ defensive tactics.  Reminds of the first few games instead on the two preceding ones.  Maybe Busch and Mickey were afraid of a 60 point blowout so they went bend and break slowly.  I’d rather they get more aggressive and attack even harder.  My guess is the staff was a bit surprised by the Neb offenses’ success in scoring.  They didn’t believe they could sustain drives.  Home runs, not base hits. 
 

I realize Purdue QB was the best arm we will face but he is not mobil. Go get him.  
i hope they go back to ‘Busch-whacking’ cause Chin mode won’t work.  

I really didn't like our defensive gameplan, it did feel like Chin's. Why was our best pass-rusher back covering a zone rather than trying to take O'Connell's head off? Purdue lacks explosiveness but they're well-coached, well-schemed, and have deadeye for a qb. This is not a team you just try to make nickel-and-dime you down the field,  that's what they're good at doing. They picked-us apart and put together drives that kept our offense off the field. Didn't help obviously that tackling regressed to what we saw under Chin. Damn I wish Robinson hadn't whiffed on O'Connell on that 4th down, if he doesn't we could well have taken the game. Having Reimers out really hurt, dude was on-fire the previous two games. 

We REALLY need to use this time off to work on tackling. The Illinois game could easily get down to whether we're able to tackle Brown. He'll get his but we can't let him run roughshod. Should have Reimers back, should help. Hopefully Newsome is 100%, dude was getting absolutely abused against Purdue. 

19 minutes ago, Red Silk Smoking Jacket said:

 

It's probably that whole "1-2 good years and the rest is pretty average" thing. He's got a 53% overall winning percentage...not exactly lighting the world on fire.

He built a conference champ at Bowling Green then after inheriting a garbage team at a VERY tough place to win at he's managed to build a winner at Wake Forest. You don't win in football at Wake unless you're a quality coach. 

I'm sure I've said this in this thread before but I don't get why Dave Clawson's name doesn't come-up WAY WAY more. Wake Forest is a small college with G5-level stadium and facilities, building a winning program there is tough. We can at-minimum double his salary and staffing-budget. He should be one of our top targets. 

21 hours ago, BoNeyard said:

This year his Baylor team hasn't lived up to his previous success, but he won a conference championship last year with Baylor. He's a very good coach who is current. But you could substitute Aranda's name with Chris Petersen's. 

Bill Callahan went to a Super Bowl and Larry Coker won a natty in their first years as head coaches after inheriting quality teams. Aranda did have an impressive first year but year-two he's probably doing no better than .500. Aranda is obviously a top-notch DC but as a HC I wouldn't say he's proven just yet. Wonder if we take Aranda does Grimes come along or get the Baylor HC job? That's Aranda's best guy. 

Would rather have the previous Baylor coach but I see Rhule enjoying his insane buyout and waiting for the perfect opportunity to come along. 

19 hours ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

That very same Mike Ferrell was big on the Riley hire back in 2015, considered it a coup, and was quoted saying he thought Nebraska scored a better hire than Florida did with McElwain. 

 

You're right that Riley wasn't on lists in 2015 because he had spurned previous offers and it was generally understood he planned to finish out with his hometown team in Corvallis, then trending downward.  

Who said anything about Mike Farrell's dumb a$$? I sure didn't. Fact of the matter is Riley was a hot name his first stint at OSU, he went to the Rams and Ericksen did good things at OSU, Riley came back and started solidly then the last several years were meh. They were 5-7 his last year and overall dude was a career .500 coach. His best years were behind him and I said so at the time too. 

18 hours ago, Lorewarn said:

 

 

He was voted the 2nd most underrated coach in the country in a poll of head coaches the year before we hired him. 

He was underrated for a career .500 coach, big wow. Dude, had one good season out of his last five, look up the records. He was a north-of-60 coach obviously past his prime. Dude was not a hot coaching-search name when we hired him, thus a bunch of fans had to google who he even was. 

21 minutes ago, Husker in WI said:

 

The problem I have with this list is it's exactly the type of list Mike Riley was on. Now some of these ones have things Riley didn't, like playing in (or even winning!) conference titles. But Doeren and Klieman haven't (early on Klieman though), and Clawson has one division title. Gundy has 3, but only one since 2012. Whittingham has the best resume by far and meets the criteria of that list the best, but I'd be pretty surprised if he was an option for us. Utah is doing well in the Pac-12 which is about to get easier, and he's Mormon so I assume there's a significant pull to stick around there.

 

That said, every coach is different so I don't totally buy the arguments that hiring a relatively new G5 coach is doomed to have the same outcome as Frost, or a long term college coach who has been solid at a difficult school is Riley 2.0. But these lists just bring back terrible memories of people talking about how underrated Riley was when we hired him.

Disagree that Riley was on lists like this, hadn't been a hot name in years. Oregon State was consistently mediocre and it looked like he was on the downward slide of his career, that's why he was such a surprise.

Clawson coaches at a program that doesn't even really belong in a P5 conference. It's a small private school with G5-level stadium and facilities with little football tradition. What he's managed to do at Wake is impressive. He'd be a hell of a hire IMO. 

I think Doering or Klieman would be solid hires but I wouldn't be over the moon. Throw Campbell in that same camp. Out of those three I'd lean towards Klieman, with some ace recruiters and our NIL to give him more talent to work with could see him breaking through.

Gundy I'd be stoked about but I'll believe it when I see it. He's used the coaching carousel to get a raise out of Okie State before. 

Agree about Whittingham, he'd certainly be a quality hire but he isn't leaving Utah. 

Seems like he's found the right job. He's proven he can raise money for husker athletics. He's no boyscout but that fits the grey-area world of NIL, it is largely buying/paying-off players under the guise of them marketing themselves afterall. 

14 hours ago, ColoradoHusk said:

The tough sell to Dykes would be to get him out of Texas.  Not saying he wouldn't do well at Nebraska, but his most success has been within the state of Texas, and he's very comfortable there.

He's got a good thing going at TCU and after his experience at Cal I think he well knows it. I don't see him leaving the Texas/Louisiana region again. 

9 hours ago, Red Five said:

Counterpoint:

 

 

Definitely the actions of a guy that wants to jump right back into the fray and figures he has enough market value that taking less money but in a lump-sum is worth it. With the amount of turnover seen now can see him landing a decent HC job in the next couple months. 

As far as Chryst's old job goes rumor is it's Leonhard's to keep if he does a solid job for the rest of the season. 

On 9/15/2022 at 6:24 PM, M.A. said:

Who recommended/supported the hiring of Peterson and Eichorst?

Pederson hire was pretty widely supported at the time. Eichorst was Perlman running-off and hiring a stooge while Osborne wasn't looking. We overpaid for a guy that was doing a meh job at Miami because he had Alvarez ties and would do what Perlman wanted. 

We aren't Ohio State but we're fine on talent compared to the rest of the West. Plus the transfer portal can obviously be heavily worked, if you can attract players it's a new era in terms of turning a team around. Think a S&C update will help too. Under Riley S&C was halfassed, under Frost it's fullassed but we're working hard rather than smart. With the right staff in place we may well not be world-beaters out of the gate but we can have a winning season. From there we can build towards a team that plays on New Years. 

On 9/14/2022 at 3:02 PM, floridacorn said:

There seems to be hope bigger changes will be made in bye week, but why give Chins more responsibility if that’s the case?

 

it’s clear the safeties need more attention.  There have been numerous busted coverages and missed tackles at the position.  But, it’s a very interesting move for other reasons.  Chins has zero experience coaching the position, & 2 of the top 3 S’s are converted CB’s.  

Busch has considerable experience with safeties, seems more qualified to help us out there. I'd rather have Chin focus on how we're getting exploited and get to work on fixing it. 

Trev should not only look at record but also our competition Let's be real, the West is not looking good, and we got the rare break of getting Rutgers and Indiana out of the East. Only Mich and OU are more talented. Plus Trev should look at what personnel moves MJ can make with the HC job and obviously compare all of this to whom Trev can hire from outside the program. 

In terms of the court of public opinion I'd say 5-4 gets MJ lauded for his efforts with some support for permanency. 6-3 gets a significant amount of the fanbase supporting he stay HC. 7-2 and the bulk want him hired. 

11 hours ago, Husker in WI said:

The only scenario I see for replacing Chins mid-season would be either Bill Busch as DC, or Fisher as DC and Busch taking over the secondary. Busch a pretty accomplished secondary coach and has been a DC at a lower level, while Fisher just seems like the most competent of the defensive position coaches. I would lean toward Busch as DC to be honest if a change was made.

 

But I still think MJ just orders Chins to be more aggressive and simpler. I have been a Chins defender, but the backslide this year is inexcusable and he's not putting players in good positions at all. I think even a good DC has one or two calls a game where the offense just has them in the exact alignment they want, but it's been more like 10 times a game this year like this: 

 

I don't care if it's 3rd and 10, this is too easy for the offense and they were constantly getting looks like this. Buford probably should've slowed him down enough to save the TD, but it was close to an automatic first down just based on the defensive look. The Buford forced fumble against NW was another example where we just lined up already outflanked, and it took a great individual play 15 yards downfield  to salvage it.

I'm Joe Schmuck and could see this coming a mile away, how can Chin not? 

12 hours ago, chainsaw said:

Davison's hire was probably a worse hire then sf!   Never hire someone's buddy to be his boss!

12 hours ago, KingBlank said:

I think this is more of along the lines of if you don't want to talk to frat boy Davison then you don't have too.  Any of Frosts support people can be dismissed at any time. 

 

 

I wouldn't put much stock in Davison's title, dude has mainly been a fund-raiser for the massive facilities upgrade and he's been quite effective at it. I doubt dude is going anywhere. 

4 hours ago, Packerhuskerfan said:

He is safe until at least until October when his contract goes down.

First game of the damn season and we're just waiting October for the buyout to go down, depressing.