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Nebraska has a "BILL" to pay

 

Very nice.

INSTEAD OF A RAIN DANCE CAN WE DO A NEW COACH DANCE.

 

 

Turn off your caps lock, buddy!

 

 

 

Look up at the top of the forum. Anything without concrete evidence behind it (like your opinion that Callahan and Co. are going to be fired) belongs in Rumorville.

I've gotta tell you - if they brought in a slew of old players to "coach" the team in a bowl game, I would definitely watch that. I doubt seriously we'd win, but it sure would make an otherwise hum-drum bowl game worthy of national attention.

 

That would be a great storyline, and a lot of fun, win or lose.

Well i have to say that i didnt come up with this on my own this idea and this plan came from someone that knows more about football than all of us on this board combined. someone that is close to TO and to the program. This is not inside information their isnt any, this is a former coaches perspective on what he feels should happen. Calling me an idiot is calling him an idiot

I ran your list by a friend of mine who is very close to the program, and for decades has been one of TO's best friends. He thinks it's ridiculous to put these kinds of stipulations on coaches.

 

I called another friend of mine who has been part of Lloyd Carr's coaching staff, and who may be considered for his job now that Carr is stepping down. He also thought it would be too hard to coach while have someone looking over your shoulder the whole time.

 

I texted another guy who was a player on the 95 and 97 Championship teams. He said that no coach would ever suggest this to another coach, so he thinks it's all made up.

 

I emailed another friend of mine who works in the front office of the San Diego Chargers. He doesn't think anyone would ever try to put these kinds of rules over a coach because that coach would be paralyzed and couldn't get anything done.

 

I faxed these to this guy I know who has been involved with Notre Dame football for 47 years and he says it's bunk.

 

I sent this by carrier pigeon to a friend who is close to Bob Stoops' staff and he said he wouldn't ever agree to any of these conditions.

 

I sent a telegram to a friend of mine who is close to SportsCenter staff in Bristol and he said he'd have to get it on the air right away, but they'd have to spell Callahan's and T.O.'s names wrong out of principle.

 

I contacted a guy close to Urban Meyer by personal messenger, and asked him to have Urban take a look. Urban said he'd never do these things and that the list was probably made up by someone who doesn't know much about football.

 

I used smoke signals to get ahold of a friend of mine who is close to the KC Chiefs staff, and he said this wouldn't work because the coach would always have to get permission to do anything.

 

Finally, I contacted Vince Lombardi in a seance after reading this and he said things I can't repeat on a family forum, then told me if someone gave this list to him he'd tell them to... put it in a physically impossible place.

 

 

So all of the guys I know who are very well-connected seem to think this is just the kind of story someone would make up and put on an internet message board, then claim it was legit because he cited some obscure "close to the program" source who he didn't name.

 

Weird, huh?

Callahan shows no remorse. Callahan either believes or has certainly given the impression that he believes that he is doing everything right, and there is no need for him to change his ways. He has been recalcitrant throughout his entire tenure at UNL. There's no comparison between the two situations whatsoever.

 

Don't go overboard here. Cally hasn't committed a crime. He has disappointed a large amount of fans.

 

If you are right that -

 

he believes that he is doing everything right

 

He owes no "remorse" to the fans. He has said many times that he feels sorry for the kids.

 

why on earth would he change his ways ??

 

 

BEAT CU!!

Don't get hung up on the word remorse. Maybe regret would have been a better choice. In the context of the LP conversation it was the first word that came to mind.

Give names and dates of your conversations or you have zero credibility.

Hunter94 brought up Magino... Maybe you should go back and read the thread.

I read it just fine, thanks. I asked the question of the guy posting the Mangino stats, and he was the guy I wanted to ask the question to. He didn't have an answer, which was an answer in itself.

 

Now that you're caught up to speed...

I wonder if he was wearing boots.

 

And if so, were they made for walking?

 

'Cause that's just what they're gonna do.

really depends on what happens on saturday

 

As in, if we win Cally can keep his job?

 

Or something else?

If he is fired Saturday he will not coach the Bowl Game. He won't want to and the school won't let him.

 

I would say of your scenarios B is the most likely. Somebody currently in the program will coach the bowl game and the next coach will take over afterward.

The entire article is basically saying he has the potential to be great, but not only has he hurt himself but being at Nebraska has hurt him just as much.

In what way? I'm not getting that from this article. Can you explain what you mean by that?

There is one way to play defense, and that is to attack. You dictate to the offense what they can do, not the other way around.

 

It took McBride years and years to figure that out. Once he did, we had the Blackshirts of the 90s, and all the havoc they wrought on opponents.

 

We did a bit of that against Texas and a lot more against KSU. The recipe is simple in scope, but detailed in action.

 

I just wish we would have been doing this all year. Every single game could have been much, much different.

Yeah, I think you have to wait until the bowl season. If Mizzou or KU beats OU in the Big 12 Championship game, OU will not be in the top 10. If KU beats Mizzou, Mizzou with 2 losses might not be in the top 10. A better question might be: what percentage of each conference has teams that are 1) bowl eligible 2) actually going to a bowl. In the Big 12 North, right now there are only 2 teams that have at least 6 wins. In the Big 12 South, all but one is bowl eligible. In the SEC, 9 out of the 12 teams have won 6 or more games while the Big 12 has 7 out of 12 winning 6 or more games. Pac 10 has 5 teams bowl eligible. Big 10 has 10 of 11 bowl eligible. The ACC has 7 out of 12 teams bowl eligible. The Big East has 5 of 8 bowl eligible. According to the bowl eligible teams per conference, the Big 10 is the strongest followed by the SEC, then Big East, then a tie between the Big 12 and ACC, with the Pac 10 bringing up the rear.

But even that's not a good indicator, since a conference could have half decent teams and half horrible teams, therefore making all of their decent teams bowl-eligible.

 

In the world of the bowls that we live in there's really no good way to determine which conference is better, save for opinion.

It's like having to hold my four-year-old's hands crossing the street.

 

Here for your reading pleasure, Clone, are two of your posts, where you specifically compare Callahan to Mangino. YOU wrote these, not some "what's his name." Some "what's his name" may have started this but you continued it. The question is valid, and you refuse to answer it.

 

The fact is ....

 

it took mangino SIX years to get it going at KU. You are right he slowly built them.

 

Another fact-- Cally won't get SIX years to slowly build a program. He had to win NOW!!

 

Opinion-

 

that cally started with more has been HOTLY debated on forums. Some say solich left the cupboards BARE! Some say not.

 

Cally has done MORE in his first four years than mangino-- it's not even close.

 

That cally can't coach is pure OPINION. He has position coaches to teach fundamentals. Head coaches don't teach blocking and tackling.

 

That mangino has no recruits is plain opinion (mine says bullsh!t) they are 11-0. You don't go 11-0 without PLAYERS!! Players began as RECRUITS!!

 

NU has the #6 SOS in the country. Check out where KU is.

 

 

more facts--

 

fact- cally's win/loss is MUCH better than manginos through four years.

 

fact- we'll never know how much better year five and six would have been for cally and NU.

 

fact- the HC tenure at NU has been getting shorter- not longer.

 

opinion- the revolving door is already spinning- the next HC will not get four years to succeed.

 

 

... thanks for playing.

Why not wat until the Bowl Season has ended, I always feel that is a good indication of the strength of conference.

Eh. It can be misleading, especially when you have teams playing in bowls they don't expect to play in. Look at Oklahoma last year and Michigan when they played us in the Alamo Bowl, or Nebraska last year against Auburn. There's three teams that should not only have won their games but should have won them handily. Instead all three lost because they were playing a bowl that did not meet the expectations the team had for itself, and their motivation was lacking.

 

So bowl results aren't always indicative of which conference is best.

 

Basically it boils down to the fact that in any given year any of these conferences has the potential to be the "best" conference: SEC, Big XII, Big Ten, Pac 10 and the ACC.

 

If any one of those conference is "weak" this year, just wait until next year and they'll be lots stronger again.

 

actually, what's his name did. And if you READ the thread, you'll see that he is propping mangino...

 

... not me. Reading is FUNdamental.

 

Here's what I've been saying about mangino---

 

While mangino has done a great job at KU (likely coach of the year for the B12 and Nationally), I said cally OUTPERFORMED mangino through their respective first four years. It took mangino SIX years to get where he is, he only had 7 wins in his previously BEST season, 6-6 last year (year five).

 

If he had four years like Cally, he'd have never sniffed success. Sound like mangino worship?

 

Thanks for playing.

 

BEAT CU!!

Blah blah blarg.

 

You didn't answer my question (which is telling in and of itself).

 

Why use Mangino? Why not use someone else?

fact- cally's win/loss is MUCH better than manginos through four years.

 

fact- we'll never know how much better year five and six would have been for cally and NU.

 

fact- the HC tenure at NU has been getting shorter- not longer.

 

opinion- the revolving door is already spinning- the next HC will not get four years to succeed.

 

 

 

opinions vary...

 

PJ for HC

 

 

BEAT CU!!

 

Why do you keep focusing on Mangino? Simply because for THIS YEAR alone it fits your argument?

 

How about you use Pete Carroll as your example?

 

Try that and see where Callahan compares.

 

If you're such a Kansas fan then ditch your Red and put on your Jayhawk gear already!

Just another day for Classy Joe Ganz.

Ummm, I am trying to figure out how to word this without sounding really negative, but what has honor got to do with a football game? There seems to be some perception that we need you to acknowledge that a rivalry exists. It doesn't matter, it is irrelevant, for me I love beating you guys, for you perhaps it is just another game but it doesn't really matter. The NCAA does not place added emphasis in standings or bowl seedings based upon so called rivalry games. From a CU fan's perspective we take a bit more satisfaction each season when we beat CSU and we take a hell of a lot of satisfaction when we beat Nebraska. Obviously for you, you took no increased satisfaction this season or the remaining part of your season since you played no one special, in your opinion.

 

This whole post, but the underlined part especially, is why Colorado fans just don't get it. The fact that you even bring this up is explanation in itself. Ask a fan of Cal or Stanford what honor there is in their game. Ask a Florida or a Georgia fan that question. Ask a Buckeye or Wolverine. Nebraska/Oklahoma was special, no matter who won. To not grasp that, and the reasons why, answers your question right there.

 

As for what makes a rivalry, you are absolutely wrong if you think one school's lack of participation in the "rivalry" is meaningless. Again, your statement answers the question.

 

 

It's like the average guy trying to get the cute girl to go out with him. If he keeps trying and trying and trying even when she shows no interest, he's going to drive her away.

 

If Colorado would stop this "rivalry" nonsense and just play every year, and if both schools can get back to what they were in their respective 'glory days,' this may eventually turn into a rivalry. However, it would help if CU would tack on a few conference titles and one or two National Championships (aside from the Fifth Down Season split "championship" CU has now). It is exceedingly difficult for a team and a fanbase accustomed to spending their time vying for a National Championship to consider a team that hasn't won so much as a conference title five times in the last 50 years a true rival.

 

Equality is key in a rivalry, after all.

I want you to know that I'm just making conversation, too. I think you're cool. I'm not mad at you or anything.

 

I think we're all just a little (or a lot) frustrated with how everything has gone, and we're all just ready to move on.

Not sure why the one poster thought I am trying to take blame off of Callahan and the coaches. That was not the point of this post at all.

This is just a guess, but it just might have something to do with this statement:

Can you put this blame on coaching staff? I'm, sure one of the first things any running back coach teaches their players is protecting the ball. You can't say that they didn't try to do things about it...

 

The point is that turnovers are a HUGE turning point in any football game. I hope that most people on here could agree with that at least in some sense.

This is a lot like hoping people can agree that the ball is oblong or the field is 100 yards from goal line to goal line. Who wouldn't agree with this? But that's not the point you were making, or if it was, you went about it in an exceedingly odd way.

I'm not any expert on sports or football for that matter. Just making observations that are pretty clear and obvious.

If they're so obvious, what makes you think they need to be made?

 

I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but the question is worth asking: What benefit is it to the rest of us if you just state the obvious? Are you thinking that we aren't understanding what should be obvious things, and that's why you're posting?

You guys just have absolutely no clue what most Husker Fans are upset about, do you?

I still get a kick out of a guy that calls a .500 team 'pathetic' when his rooting interest is batting .300...

 

What's wrong with that? It's not like he said his team isn't pathetic and others are. In fact, he should know pathetic better than any of us.

Ohhhhhh SNAP!!!

 

(just kidding, Cy)

21-0? I can't believe with all the "will he stay" threads that get posted every day that NOT ONE person yet thinks he has a chance to be here next year!

 

Or are all of those threads just to bait everyone into responding?

 

I'm getting that impression more and more....

It's great that you had a good time. Most every game is like that at Memorial Stadium. It's a great, fun place to watch a game.

 

I hope you have a lot more experiences just like that one.