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1 minute ago, runningblind said:

Can someone explain why some folks are concerned for the football program with this news? How does this change anything at all? Frost is either going to win and keep his job long term/the program will be just fine or he's not. I don't think that matters who the AD is.

AD's like to hire their own coaches.  Frost may be on a shorter leash now.

As for Moos, he's 70 years old and has been spending a lot of time at home.  Maybe he felt like staying home with the famiy and retiring was a better choice.

A successful year for me would be to get to a bowl.  Sadly, I don't think it'll happen.  

Lots of Okies here in my part of Oregon.  They're all hillbillies. 

6 hours ago, suh_fan93 said:

They also said Legrone had done the very same thing prior to this incident with another woman who was having sex with another football player which was brought up by prosecutors.  Were no charges filed there???

 

Also odd that Hunt agreed to a plea deal to two misdemeanors instead of rape for testifying in this case.  Really confusing with Legrone just getting acquitted.  Hunt's trial for the two misdemeanor charges he was offered in the plea deal is set for next month.

You can bet Hunt's lawyer has already been in contact with the DA backing away from that deal.

3 hours ago, Touchdown Tommie said:

It was extremely disturbing...what the actual 'f' is wrong with sexual assault laws...I wonder if his attorney (Mallory Hughes) is able to sleep at night knowing that happened and basically blaming the female for what happened.

 

Do either one of these rapists get signed on with another team?

That's the defense attorney's job.  To provide a rigorous defense.

2 hours ago, NUance said:

 

Car crash.  

Yuck.

10 hours ago, Cobra Kai said:

 

You clearly know more about oregon state basketball than I do, but to say these kids weren't wanted seems a bit of a stretch.  5 minutes worth of checking tells me otherwise.

 

All per 24/7:

 

Thompson #7 SG nationally

Notable offers: Cal, Syracuse, USC, Utah

 

Reichle #1 player in the state of oregon

 

Silver #17 juco nationally

 

Silva #1 juco in cali

 

Hunt notable offers: USC, SDSU, Nev, Boise

 

Lucas notable offer:. Nev (point record holder in the state of california)

 

Calloo notable offers: Okie st, Illinois, florida, Mississippi State, ole miss, providence, smu, usf

 

They might not belong where they are...and might get blown out in the sweet sixteen, but something is working.  I'd rather have a group of over achievers than a group of selfish ballers who fail to meet expectations.

I wasn't including Thompson, but he only came because his dad is an assistant coach.  Same as his brother Stevie.  Calloo is a transfer we got this year Okie State.  Same goes for Alatishe who we got from Nicholls State.  Alatishe has been a welcome surprise though I wish he's look to score more often.  

Silva was offered by us and UTEP despite being the #1 JUCO in Cali.  

Silver:  I didn't even know who that was until you brought him up.

Hunt's offers aren't from any Power 6 schools except USC and you have to wonder how soft that offer was.

Lucas, despite being a record holder, wasn't recruited by any Power 6 schools besides us.  Frankly, he was the only high school guy I had hope for.  I thought it was weird only smaller schools offered.

Reichle supposedly had an offer from Oregon, but his final two were us and UC Irvine.  

Oregon State is a complete fluke.  They have a bunch of kids that no other Power 6 programs wanted and were picked to finish dead last in the Pac 12.  Their RPI was hideous at the end of the season and their only chance to make the tournament was to win the Pac 12 tourney.  They did using an ugly style that has worked for some reason.  As an alumnus I love it, but Coach Tinkle will get a contract extension and his recruiting and record has been atrocious.  

1 hour ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

Southern Cal came out of nowhere too.

They smoked Kansas.  That was a surprise.  Their game against Oregon should be a good one.

I didn't see the Pac 12 doing so well.  

7 hours ago, RichardHangslow said:

I think people would be foolish to think that we haven't improved under Frost. The fact of the matter is when Frost got here we were glorified high School football team, the rebuild after Mike Riley was a huge undertaking I don't care who was the coach. I definitely think we're headed in the right direction it's just not showing up in the win column, I think we will fall short of my ten and two expectation but I think we could definitely get to seven or eight wins and a bowl game if that turns into nine win season. That can go a long way however. we are going to need to replace Martinez at some point and I think we have to have a better quarterback than the ones we have in order to keep progressing the way we need to in order to sustain success. A high caliber quarterback is a must. 

That glorified high school team went 9-4 in 2016.  2017 rolled around and the administration hired Bob Diaco.  The same Bob Diaco Frost beat this season.  The same Bob Diaco PURDUE kicked to the curb after one season.  Eliminating him alone should have improved Nebraska's defense by leaps and bounds.  Instead, Frost was hired and he stupidly got rid of a bunch of players.  One of which was a first team All Pac 12 linebacker last season.

Today, Nebraska's offense is a glorified high school unit as there are absolutely no playmakers on it.  None.  The two best playmakers have quit in subsequent years.  Wandale, McCaffrey and Martinez were the only three players anybody worried about on the offense and the former two are gone.  People expecting more than 4-5 wins are in for a rude awakening.  Again.  And those numbers are generous.  In what many consider the weakest division in college football.  This offense will be uglier than the 2009 one.  Yet, many Nebraska fans will be back in 2021 talking about 10 wins after what could easily be an 8-9 loss season making excuses for Frost and laughably still blaming Riley.  

1 hour ago, hskrfan4life said:

 

He's not impressive at all.  Oregon brought in a grad transfer from Boston College who didn't play very much last season, but dazzled in mop up duty.  He chose to come back and Shough saw the writing on the wall.  

With all of that said, he'd probably be on Nebraska's two deep.  However, he's not going to take us to the top of the West.

I'd guess anywhere from 3 to 5 wins.  I don't know where the offense is going to come from.

12 minutes ago, Toe said:

Let's add the tweet below to that:

 

 

I just read the news on ESPN.com and immediately remembered that Lowe stopped a school shooting,

53 minutes ago, KC Sker said:

??????

He's pretty happy with his Fox Sports gig.

15 minutes ago, In the Deed the Glory said:

They don’t need that as a football player. 

After a little research, it appears you're right.  However, it's still fairly tough.

"At Air Force, prospective players need to have at least a 3.5 high school GPA, a 25 on the ACT in all subjects, and a minimum of a 1200 two-part SAT score."  

I don't know if Luke has this in him.  He still hasn't figured out he's actually left handed.

1 hour ago, Hilltop said:

I agree with you.  Maybe he ends up at a place that basically just runs the ball?  Army, Airforce, Navy... They all pass the ball less than 25% of all plays.  I could envision Luke running the triple option.  Even Wyoming wouldn't be a bad spot to land with a 65/35 run to pass average.

Well, I know he's not going to any of those three unless they've drastically changed their admissions policies.  Hahaha.  A buddy of mine from high school went to West Point (Army) and got a recommendation letter from one of our senators just to get in.

As for Luke, the only way he succeeds is going somewhere where they run the ball or he goes down a level or two.  He just doesn't have the arm to play QB.  He's a terrific athlete and its a shame he didn't give another skill position a try, but that's his decision.  Who knows, maybe he doesn't have a desire to play in the NFL.  

Welp, the kid wants to play QB.  I say good luck,  young man.  I wish him well.

On 1/22/2021 at 11:59 AM, knapplc said:

Interesting rabbit hole.

 

The Nebraska Aggies were at one time coached by Robert C. Russell, and appear to have had some connections to Sigma Phi Epsilon fraternity (although that may just be a reference to Russell).

 

They represented the School of Agriculture from UNL's East Campus Ag School per this Daily Nebraskan article from 1933. They played teams like Doane, Harvard (NE), Nebraska Wesleyan, York, etc.

 

They also had a basketball team.

Sounds like a club team.

On 1/22/2021 at 11:00 AM, knapplc said:

Nebraska were called the Cornhuskers in 1916, so it wouldn't be a reference to the UNL football team.

 

Nebraska played two different opponents called the Aggies in 1916 - Oregon State and Kansas State.

 

 

 

Can we see more of that photo?

The current Oregon State University was the Oregon Agricultural College back then.  Beavers since 1910.  I've never heard the Aggies moniker used, but a lot of Ag schools were called "Aggies" way back when.

18 minutes ago, Dogs In A Pile said:

 

They also said to expect 20M vaccinated by the end of the year and the last I saw as of yesterday (Dec. 30) the total was up to a whopping 2.8M. It will summer, fall or later before everyone that wants to get vaccinated has access to the vaccine.

My county got 1900+ doses over two weeks ago.  As of today, they've given just over 300 shots because none of the folks responsible for the shots works weekends or holidays.  It's a sh*tshow.  

9 hours ago, Husker in WI said:

 

The guru wasn't "in his ear" the year before?

Not the full year.  No doubt he kept things simple with a true freshman as well.  

7 hours ago, VizionNE said:

Same guy who had him as a heisman dark horse a year ago. Got it. Great analysis. 

He was a dark horse before the season started thanks to a 4-2 finish the year before.  With the guru in his ear for a year, he regressed.  

1 hour ago, Redux said:

I saw our bowl opponent was projected to be Army, shrugged and went on with my day.  Later on I saw Nebraska opted to decline, liked the post and again carried on with my day.

 

For one, we didn't earn a bowl.  If you take the dark behind the stage crap out, a bowl is a reward.  Why reward such below average productivity?  Sure extra practice would've been nice, but so is spending the holidays with your family.

 

We haven't been bowling since 2015.  5 long years.  I thought it was an eternity in 2009 when we were only 10yrs removed from a conference title.  We're halfway there just for a bowl game!  Which is even more alarming when .500 teams bowl these days.  I didn't want one this year, not this way.  Anyone crying about this needs to cool it and think about what accepting a bowl invite would really have meant.   Earn it next year.  There is no other option.

2016 was our last bowl year.

2 hours ago, Mavric said:

Here is the point I was getting at:  I think we went through four years of most terrible recruiting on the offensive side of the ball. FOUR YEARS!!!  It's just a lot harder to recover than we thought, especially when a couple guys who could have been contributors didn't last.

 

Running Back Signees:

2015 - Ozigbo: had a very good senior year

2016 - Tre Bryant: limited contributions due to injuries which were known when he was recruited

2017 - Bradley: non-contributor

2018 - Washington: stud but didn't last a season; Bell: starter but left mid-season; Jones: non-contributor

 

Wide Receiver:

2015 - Morgan: stud; Alston: non-contributor

2016 - Spielman: very good player but left early; Grim: non-contributor

2017 - McQuitty, Johnson & Lindsey: non-contributors

2018 - McGriff, Williams, Woodyard & Hunt: basically non-contributors

 

Tight End:

2015 - Snyder: non-contributor

2016 - Stoll: solid starter; Engelhaupt: non-contributor

2017 - Allen: solid starter; Rafdal: non-contributor

2018 - LaGrone: non-contributor

 

Offensive Line:

2015 - Decker, Barnett, Gaylord: all non-contributors

2016 - MFarniok: solid starter; Wilson & Brokop: part-time starters; Raridon: non-contributor

2017 - Jaimes: excellent starter; Bando, Sichterman & Walker: non-contributors

2018 - Jurgens: solid starter; WFarniok: nothing yet

 

So in four years we recruited one RB who would make a meaningful contribution.  Two wide receivers who were pretty good but one left early.  Two solid starters at TE.  And three offensive linemen that didn't get recruited over.  That's it.  We couldn't even fill one complete starting lineup in four years of recruiting.  That's pathetic.  And that's mostly on Riley.  So when people say "quit blaming Riley" I think a lot of it still is his fault because he left barely anything for Frost to work with.

 

Now there are a lot of incompletes on the report card for the last two classes.  And you can say that the guys getting to play early may only be playing early because of the lack of older guys who are any good.  But here's what we know so far from the last two classes:

 

Running Back:

2019 - Mills: starter when healthy; Johnson & Thompkins: both in the mix this year

2020 - Scott: in the mix this year; Morrison: has been injured

 

Wide Receiver:

2019 - WRobinson: absolute stud; Nance, Chase & Houston: non-contributors; Manning: TBD

2020 - Betts: looks to be a stud; Brown: seeing the field as a true frosh; Nixon: injured; Fleming: saw the field but left; Martin: looking like a good contributor

 

Tight End:

2019 - Vokolek: solid contributor; Hickman: little contribution

2020 - None

 

Offensive Line:

2019 - Benhart & Piper: starting as a RSFrosh; Four others in the class

2020 - Two in the class

 

So there are four RBs who have been in the mix to some extent.  Two WRs look to be very good going forward plus two more that have been in the mix already;  Not much from the TE spot.  Two OL already starting.

 

So we've basically already seen as much production (in terms of number of guys) from the last two classes in the first 22 months on campus as we saw in the previous four classes in their entire careers.  

 

That doesn't mean the coaches get a complete pass.  But I don't think many realize what a total void this staff inherited.

How many complete recruiting classes did Riley have?  The main word being "complete?"  Remember, he was there for a short time.  Also, how many of Riley's guys left because they either didn't want to play for Frost or Frost didn't want them?  Lindsay?  McQuitty?  Spielman?  Spielman's loss looks awfully big right now and Gebbia is a better thrower than Martinez.  You talk about a void.  The word I would use is purge and that lands at the feet of Frost.  Mav,  you're the recruiting guy.  Is/are Riley's classe(s) rankings at lot worse than Frost's?

As I look at the second part of your post and Frost's guys, you spoke of guys in the mix and starters.  My answer is of course, somebody has to take the field.  The running-backs so far are non-contributors, except for Mills and he's mediocre.  He has 205 yards in 5 games.  Thompkins, Scott and Johnson have combined for 116 yards.  

I love, love, love Wondale.  Sadly, I sometimes wish he played for another top 25 team so we can see just how good he can be.  Betts has 12 catches for 131 yards.  If you add up all of the yards from our backs and receivers, do they add up to Spielman's sophomore year?  I haven't looked or added them up, but it's sad to think about.

The original question is do we have the talent we need?  Well, need for what?  Nattys?  Absolutely not.  Conference championships?  No way we can beat OSU.  West champs?  No.  Our boys are in last place.  Last.  You are what your record says you are.  We have virtually nobody who is drafted and those who are drafted are in the last few rounds.  We have three guys on offense that are electric with the ball in their hands, but they need help and they don't have enough of that yet.  Is Frost going to bring in that help?  I'm not confident he will.  

9 minutes ago, tmfr15 said:

DATE: Friday, Dec. 27, 2002; TIME: 3:30 p.m. Central

 

The Independence Bowl pitting 7-6 Nebraska and 6-6 Ole Miss.

 

Huskers lost. 7-7.

 

I thought the Huskers couldn't possibly get worse.

 

Who is going to get in the time machine to go break the news to 2002 me that the $hit show isn't even getting going yet?

 

 

 

 

Would you have believed it...even if I showed you the time machine?