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2 minutes ago, Branno said:

 

I found the pedant!

 

Are you seriously suggesting that the virus gives 2 s#!ts about whether the sports being played are youth or college? Or that simply the level of competition changes how it spreads. 

 

Please, enlighten me, on how playing sports is safer than staying at home. I'm all f#&%ing ears.

Of course it isn't.  I didn't say that.  Don't be dense.

I didn't say any of those things.

Major college football, a multi billion dollar industry, has certain resources and the ability to control, test, and trace at an incredibly different level than any youth sports league in the country.  

 

College football is probably the most difficult sport to be able to pull this off.  No doubt about that, but with enough $ on the line, maybe they'll come up with a solution.  I would bet my dollar on NOT having college FB this year.

 

Just now, Branno said:

 

Oh, I don't know.... some little known organization called the CDC.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/youth-sports.html

Youth sports = Major College Division 1 Programs?

4 minutes ago, Branno said:

 

If a player follows social distancing guidelines, wears masks, takes online classes, and DOES NOT PLAY FOOTBALL they are significantly less likely to contract COVID-19. I don't understand how this concept is so hard to understand.

 

Says who?  Based on what?

7 minutes ago, Branno said:

 

That's a bad argument to make and you know it. In fact,  it's the definition of the logical fallacy of equivocation.

 

There are things we can't avoid in football, for example contact, without it becoming soccer. You just accept the risk and do whatever you can to mitigate it. 

But, you can avoid COVID-19 related issues. To suggest we can't, is nonsense.

But you can avoid football altogether.  There is no fundamental need for football, yet we justify a pretty significant risk, mostly for entertainment value.

I haven't figured out how to avoid breathing, so I have to accept the risk and do what I can to mitigate it. 

It's not like playing football is the only place to contract Covid.   We're all pretty likely to be exposed to Covid-19, whether we play football or not.  With certain protocols, it may be safer for these athletes to be playing football, governed by team rules and spending a great deal of their time in a highly controlled and structured environment, rather than to not be playing football and spending more time in an uncontrolled environment...

If Covid was caused by football, then you have a very different conversation.

 

38 minutes ago, Undone said:

Edit: Or alternatively written for simplicity's sake and to cut through the bull$h!t, if it could possibly save one life, it's imperative that we not have the season - correct?

No. That is an absurd standard.

43 minutes ago, FrantzHardySwag said:

I think comparing "MLS is Back Tournament" to NFL is more accurate. The MLS is a professional league, using the bubble strategy like the NBA. There's a bubble, there's smaller rosters, there is no travel, there is unified leadership. College Football is going to be an entirely different beast

Absolutely true.  But it is possibly the most relevant comparison that we have at the moment.  I agree that it would be nearly impossible to use the same strategy with college football.

At least it appears to be going well.  If it wasn't, I would have even less optimism for sports of any kind this fall.

Not sure about football, but soccer is successfully holding a pretty big event right now.  Seems to be the closest thing to football that's actually trying to hold some sort of season/tournament.  It may serve as some level of evidence if they can pull it off.  

27 minutes ago, Huskers93-97 said:

Your right it would be over. It already is. Do you have any formal education in science that trumps the stanford PHD in applied physics and physics that basically said science does not provide facts but accepted theories? Which as we know theories are proven wrong over time all the time. 

 

I have enough formal training in science (terminal degree in healthcare related field) to fully realize that you have none.  Your misunderstanding of the word theory is a good case in point.

14 minutes ago, Huskers93-97 said:

I would love to debate this further but I dont see it going anywhere and no one else wants to see us discuss science for the next 50 pages.

I bet it wouldn't take more than a half a page and about 5 minutes for the debate to be finished.

The argument, however, could go on and on...

27 minutes ago, Huskers93-97 said:

But it is not the end all be all I would bet my life on. 

You do this EVERY DAY in more ways than you can count.

BTW, science is a method of systematic thought.  It cannot be wrong.  Conclusions, of course, can be incorrect and must be constantly scrutinized via, well, scientific method...

2 minutes ago, Crusader Husker said:

I just think it is the daily bad news.  We have been in a mask mandate for a while.  Where I go, I have only seen 1 guy not wearing a mask.  Numbers still going up.  They are still not testing everyone, even with symptoms.  (but they say they do)  You can go to a private place but test are always 7 to 10 days out.  We aren't testing everyone.  My son is going to college in NY.  He as to be quarantined for 14 days.   I said what about a negative test?  Doesn't matter, he still needs to be quarantined to 14 days.  Then why in the hell do we test?  I am OK even if he needs 3 days in a row of negative tests.  Who is paying for the quarantine?  Me, probably in a hotel.  18 years old hanging out in a hotel by himself for 14 days.  The spring was already tough.

 

He has had a crappy summer.  Selected to play in a football all-star game here in Ohio, cancelled.  Qualified for HS nationals in the hammer, cancelled.  His FB schedule (I have heard from a conference commissioner that FB is more than likely being moved to the spring) is probably moving to the spring and he will have to choose either FB or track.  I feel bad for him.

 

Maybe I just in tired of all of this and I needed to vent.  Seriously, I feel better, but nothing has changed.

That stinks. Hope he can find a silver lining or two.

27 minutes ago, hunter49 said:

clearly those in control of spreading a false message reach out to the sheeple.

 

our county was just exposed for false reporting an additional 3,000 positive covid cases. perpetuating lies reduces compliance with any health directive. there is no trust, only fools who believe whatever they are fed.

I don't think you can count it as a day on the internet until you've been called a "sheeple".

MLS is playing a 24 team tournament right now in Orlando. It's a start... 

13 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said:

This chip is the mark of the beast and is a one way ticket to hell though so its not really comparable to the other privacy invasions we experience /s

WTF.  Maybe loosen that tinfoil a bit.  The constriction might be causing some serious cerebral dysfunction.

5 hours ago, knapplc said:

But Frost directly stating that he coasted is a concern. 

Wouldn't the fact that your team keeps losing and you haven't even made a bowl game recently be pretty dang motivating... 

"Didn't try very hard" or "didn't prepare" are pretty much the worst things to hear about any athlete.  

1 hour ago, JJ Husker said:

 

Devil's advocate. It would be easy to win a lawsuit over contracting Covid if you were involved with collegiate athletics. You wouldn't have to prove where you got it, only that the school/program/coach was negligent and put you at risk. The fact it is known thing doesn't mitigate it at all. One instance of weight equipment not being wiped down, one situation of no mask or less than 6' distance and judgement falls in that person's favor.

 

I like your view better but I've lived in this country way too long to think winning a lawsuit like this would be hard at all.

Thats not how it works.

I can imagine winning a lawsuit over contracting Covid-19 would be nearly impossible.

You'd have to prove that you know where you got it, and that the entity you're suing was negligent in some way that allowed you to get the virus...

At this point, it's a known risk.  No entity is able to prevent it, nor protect you from it, nor even identify how much of the risk may be present in their establishment.  So if you're in public, you're at risk, though it's nearly impossible to tell how much risk and by whom...

#Lil'red???

WTF yo?

On 2/3/2020 at 6:28 AM, Atbone95 said:

This dude isn't even on campus yet. I think we're getting "grown men" now. 

Mirror muscles... who cares...  Football isn't bodybuilding.

35 minutes ago, SouthLincoln Husker said:

Let's get back on topic. 

How is this not "on topic" when it comes to attrition?

Earn your scholarship. Every year, every day. Find a way to be valuable to your team. 

Move the kids that don't work out to a non-athletic scholarship to finish their education.

This ain't kindergarten. 

Ok, so... 

Shockingly, I also disagree with several policies and even laws of the United States.

I think scholarships should have to be renewed on a yearly basis. If a player lacks value to the team, or has lost the confidence of the coaches, they should be moved off of an athletic scholarship. Perhaps there should be a way for them to continue their education on a non-athletic scholarship, but I hate the idea of a 4+ year "guarantee" for young athletes who may or may not deserve it.

Get to a bowl, continue the work. Process, patience.