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I accept your concession

24 minutes ago, teachercd said:

 

That is not freedom but I get what you are saying.  

 

Freedoms are not binary, nor are they without consequences.

1 minute ago, teachercd said:

I understand it.

 

But you are either FOR freedom of choice and opportunity or you are not.  I don't like they constant moving around of players but I totally support their chance to move around.  I would want that for me or my friends or family.

 

Wouldn't you?

No, I wouldn't.

I was an NCAA athlete, and I did transfer once.  (It wasn't for playing time as I was in an individual sport)

It has a major down side for the athlete and for the teams that are destabilized.  It has negative effects for the university, the fan base, team culture, and many other things.  I've lived it.  I had great success at my second university but I still wonder if it was worth all of the downsides.

I think there should be some freedom to move around, but also that there should be limits placed on that ability.  

1 minute ago, teachercd said:

I did, you compared it to the pros which I get BUT in the pros you can be traded (even if you don't want to be) and you can be cut and you can also demand a trade or demand to be cut.

 

As far as "competing for playing time", I get it, but why is this such an amazing idea?  We romanticize it to death.  This "work hard and stick with it and maybe as a 5th year senior you might play". Makes for a great story but you get 5 years (or 20 years thanks to covid), and then it is done.

At this point you aren't trying to understand anything written so why would we continue the discussion.

2 minutes ago, teachercd said:

Yeah and at one point they could never leave the team they were drafted by unless traded...

 

Also a pro player can literally finish a game, be the hero, and find out that he has been traded that night, have to pack his bags and move 2000 miles away and be ready to play the next day/weekend.  That sounds f#&%ing awesome!

We're talking about the college system here, not professional. 

1 hour ago, teachercd said:

To those of you that are against players being able to transfer and play, after the first "free" transfer, can you explain why?

 

Why are you against people having the freedom of movement to create new chances and opportunity?  

 

I have personally never heard a good reason against letting kids transfer and play.

The issue is with repeated transfers and the obvious "shopping" for playing time. 

A single transfer seems reasonable but what is being done now is purely based on instant gratification and essentially eliminates the ideals of team, institution, and community.  The current system promotes and reward ideas and strategies that are counter to the values that used to be associated with scholastic athletics.

If kids want a "free for all" then they should be able to have that, but not associated with universities.  Collegiate athletics should continue to require and emphasize academics to improve the lives of student athletes far beyond their time on the field/court.

2 hours ago, RedDenver said:

What a silly take. Regular college students are allowed to do it. Why should the athletes be any different?

They should be allowed to switch schools, but also should not be eligible to play right away beyond the first transfer.  This phenomena of shopping around for playing time is absurd and needs to stop.

So amazing!!! Such a celebration for women athletes!

41 minutes ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

Being worshipped and given discounts every time I go to the grocery store is its own kind of burden. 

Tis a burden you bear with such dignity…

57 minutes ago, Huskerfollower4life said:

Your not helping anybody but yourself to make you feel better about yourself.  Be mature bro.  

I am 0% surprised that you didn’t get it. 

4 minutes ago, Huskerfollower4life said:

I understand that he made a huge mistake but geez I don't understand why certain people have to keep dragging him down after the fact.  Let it be and move on.  He will pay his dues and hopefully he get's the help he need's.

There are "mistakes" and then there are completely dumb idiot moves (done intentionally and incompetently)  that should not only be punished but mocked as well.

Maybe "the help he needs" is to be mocked and derided for doing stupid things, which is the case for pretty much all of us that weren't 5* athletes who were worshiped and given preferential treatment for our entire lives...

We're helping.

5 minutes ago, teachercd said:

But that is on the college, MOST colleges require a certain amount of credits from them to graduate.  So the college could/would just say "no" unless it was an advanced degree but the player should still have the freedom to shop around.

Which becomes a race to the bottom in academic standards just to get athletes.

As long as the teams are affiliated with colleges, some academic requirements should be maintained.

1 hour ago, RedDenver said:

Why? Why even have transfer restrictions? It's definitely not to help the student-athletes.

It would be pretty difficult to be advancing towards a degree with a transfer every year.  Collegiate athletics isn't supposed to be the same thing as club sport programs.

2 hours ago, gobiggergoredder said:

Sounds like he got picked up for burglary this morning.

Hope Rhule cuts the cord quickly to eliminate the distraction.  

Wasted talent.

27 minutes ago, caveman99 said:

This narrative needs to stop. Wagner is a HS coaching legend in Texas. You don’t win as many games as he did without knowing how to coach. 

Nobody said he wasn't a good coach, but if he were equally skilled as a coach, but from central Wyoming, what are the odds he'd have been hired at Nebraska?

33 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Seems like we’re going cheap. Martin should be at least making about $130k (5/12 of what Wager did) over these last 5 months.

 

You could say his resume is better suited than Wager for being a college TE coach.

Seems like Wager was hired for his Texas connections more than his coaching acumen.  

9 minutes ago, Husker in WI said:

Rhule said Washington fell awkwardly and will miss a few days, but should be ok long term. Betts wasn't practicing (undisclosed injury) and neither was Coleman (unspecified reason). Rhule talked up some guys like Kemp and Bullock and mentioned opportunities for freshmen (Lloyd and Doss specifically), but I was worried about WR production when the room was healthy. Could be a very slow moving offense this year.

Potential downside of more tackling in practice.

17 hours ago, Mavric said:

We might need smaller pants.  None of our guys have any butts left, it would seem.

S&C fail.

"a$$ moves mass"  

We're buggered...

...again.

On 7/18/2023 at 12:44 PM, Red Five said:

 

The whole "firing off the ball" thing that was brought up a lot last offseason like it was some new OL technique was complete coach speak BS.

 

 

I think Duval was a problem with our OL.  I don't think it was about being strong or not, it was that he made them stiff as hell and turned their feet into cinder blocks.

Duval must be some sort of evil wizard to have that much control over making players stiff and slow footed.

26 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

It might be to our advantage to get them first. They won’t be in mid season form yet, and they won’t have any film on us. 

I vote for this.

13 minutes ago, Dogs In A Pile said:

 

IMHO, this kind of star rating for transfers is absolutely worthless since they were based on their evaluation from high school. If they were based on their performance during their college careers that would be worth looking at.

Many of them wouldn't have much collegiate performance to evaluate, hence the transfer.

With the current state of NIL and the transfer portal, we may still see DR in Husker red at some point in the future.  

12 hours ago, Mavric said:

He says he's been playing with a torn labrum in his hip for three years.  But they apparently didn't know it until during this past football season.  He missed half the season after surgery.  Still rehabbing his way back.

 

Most schools recruiting him as a DB.  Didn't say specifically where we see him.  We said he could be CB, S, LB, DE, WR, Wildcat QB and return kicks.

So, he ran 10.88 with a hip injury...  

Impressive.

I'm pretty sure this kid is actually Spider Man.

3 hours ago, sho said:

I think the NCAA is already planning on allowing both additional scholarships and coaches.   The driving force is fear of another lawsuit and limiting right to choose...if the school wants to give player X a scholarship and that player wants to go there, the NCAA shouldn't prevent that as it's limiting opportunities and opens up lawsuits that NCAA believes they would lose.   There is a growing belief among compliance directors is that schools will soon be able to have 100+ kids on scholarship for football, if they'd like and 20+ kids on scholarship for basketball if they'd like.  They would just have to balance the scholarship numbers to the Title IX federal guidelines, which means most likely more scholarships available for female athletes.   The growing belief is scholarships will only be limited by budget constraints at schools and not based on arbitrary caps placed on them by the NCAA.   Some fear this will lead to a power imbalance but the counter argument being made is kids will go where they will play and will transfer out so small schools will still get good/great athletes.  I can see the day where there will be unlimited transfers, scholarships and coaches in the next 5-10 years or so

Well, then, this might work out pretty well for my daughters  (swimmers).  Should increase the # of female athletic scholarships for Title IX compliance!

Woo hoo!