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5 hours ago, Undone said:

 

What I'm addressing is people saying "Good riddance." How does that apply in Bell's case?

 

When someone quits who's barely getting snaps and is pretty ineffective in the game when they do get snaps, it doesn't really hurt the team that much. But when somebody who has actually been contributing quits, that hurts the team.

Imagine if Ozigbo gets injured tomorrow...

My point was that his contribution wasn't meeting frosts quality control standards. He was sliding down the depth chart as a result. One big run against Colorado didn't out weight the red zone fumble and slew of more minor offense mistakes he was making.

Frost made his position clear when other backs started getting more carries.

Not saying good riddance. I wish he had stayed and fixed what he was doing wrong and got back in the rotation, but that was his choice, he made it. 

13 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said:

He had 100 yards rushing in his first husker game despite a bad OL and you saw nothing?

6 minutes ago, Undone said:

@Mavric posted some good stats that showed that his Yards Per Carry stats were actually really decent against Colorado and Troy. I'm not sure how anybody can say "Good riddance" on this one. 

We hadn't played nearly enough football yet.

This one is really surprising here, and definitely sucks.

There are lots of players who look good on paper but don't hold up on film. Bell was definitely one of those, he was unpolished and a work in progress. But a promising one, this is a shame.

38 minutes ago, Mavric said:

 

My previous post is still true.

didn't say it wasn't? And while you previous post is still true, it is also true that he did enough wrong to see his playing time massively cut. Hopefully he figures it out in practice.

14 minutes ago, Mavric said:

 

I don't think you are recalling correctly.

Thats very likely, he's goofed enough plays that they are starting to blend into a concoction of disappointment. Though not as bad as lamarr Jackson.

3 hours ago, Mavric said:

 

By "fumble issues" you mean he fumbled once?  You seem to be exaggerating what has happened.

 

"Kinda slow" compared to what?  Because he's definitely not slow compared to Oz.

 

 

i seem to recall him losing it or nearly losing more than once. But yes once for sure.

Could have fooled me. He is no burner, thats for sure.

9 hours ago, Mavric said:

 

He did a nice job.  But he's more of a high-floor, low-ceiling guy.  He does most things very solid.  But he doesn't do anything really great.

 

I think a lot of the workload this week had to do with what was missing from practice as opposed to Frost missing anything.  As in, Washington was missing from practice.  Not sure what the deal was with Bell.  Given that he had consistently out-performed Ozigbo in other games, in inclined to think that he was also somewhat sick - there were reports of several guys being sick during the week - or banged up a bit.  I guess we'll see how the distribution looks this week.

 

17 for 170 is great.  But considering there were almost no yards after contact, I think the offensive line should get a huge chunk of credit for that.  But people have themselves convinced that the line sucks so they don't want to do that.

little surprised by the bolded given how bell has had fumble issues, and also the fact that the dude seems kinda slow.

underrated as always. hardest working guy on the field by far.

4 hours ago, HuskerNation1 said:

We are 4 games into this season and have had enough time to assess the performance of this staff.  I realize Frost inherited a poor culture and may not have all his players, but the lack of preparation and mental toughness/penalties cannot be attributed primarily to the players.  While I definitely think Frost needs a few seasons to turn the ship around, I also think this team is failing at the basics of Football 101 and we need to stop treating him with kid gloves just because he is a former player and assess the results we are seeing on the field just as we would have assessed if this were the first year for Riley or Pelini.  If you are not interested in assessing our staff after 4 games so be it, no need to reply to this thread.

 

Here are my grades thus far:

 

Head Coach: C-

Offensive Coordinator/WR: D (Not really sure what the OC is doing relative to Frost)

Offensive Line: F

Running Backs: C

Tight Ends: C-minus

QB Coach: C

Defensive Coordinator: F

Special Teams Coach- F-minus

Offensive Line: F

Defensive Line-C-minus

Defensive Backs-D

Linebackers-D

 

well when we remove the emotion and shock of our unfortunate and poor start and look at the staff from a more neutral point of view i got this off the top of my head.

Head Coach: B   - been pretty average, nothing horrible nothing great.

Offensive Coordinator/WR: ? (Not really sure what the OC is doing relative to Frost) - same questions here, pretty sure frost calls the plays but idk. WR play has been awful

Offensive Line: ? - line is still in a state of fluidness, once they settle on their 5 ill be more critical, but it was better today.

Running Backs: C - need to work on ball control, some of the new faces haven't lived up to the hype due to a lack of fundamentals.

Tight Ends: C+ - a surprisingly ok unit this year. 

QB Coach: B - has done well with Martinez

Defensive Coordinator: B - has done a solid job turning this unit turned around, especially when you consider that they are on the field as much as they are.

Special Teams Coach- F-minus  - totally agree here, although it is also slowly improving.

defensive Line: C+ - its been solid, even good at times, but bad decisions are still common.

Line backers A- Barrett Ruud can coach, and this unit is massively improved. They still had some bad first year mistakes, but considering this is Ruuds first time coaching im impressed

Defensive Backs- D-C - some of them are struggling and not even involved, others like bootle are helping carry the defense, this is a mixed bag, but not reflective of the coach entirely yet. There has been marked fundamentals improvements from a number of the DB's i really like.

4 minutes ago, Bigred_inSD said:

Where does the time go

well, they call it history. 

clemson rushes the field after beating syracuse........ oh boy

2 hours ago, Mavric said:

This is why it still surprises me that Oz gets this kind of play.  Should have been a nice gain.  But he's not fast enough.

 

Thats why you do it, they aren't expecting it and we got a gain on the play, one of the few on the day. But i agree, this play doesn't exploit any of his strengths and talents, he is a between the tackles runner.

1 hour ago, Undone said:

 

Do you think there's any chance that it's an attempt to make the defense think it'll be an inside give because Ozigbo is in there?

 

That's all I got.

Also, I really hope to see Washington out there against Purdue. He did so well against Troy!

Washington is promising athletically, but there is some causes for concern in how he runs. Granted i thought he would play more, but him not playing validates some theories i have.

12 hours ago, southernoregonhusker said:

Obviously Sip's been reading my posts here as he parroted everything I've been saying for three years ;).  This is a total rebuild.  I am, however, a little worried after this last game against Troy.  We lost to them at home and never had the lead.  Even though we lack the talent to contend in the B1G, we should have looked a lot better against a Sun Belt team.  Our O-line looked pathetic.  They were both slow and weak against freakin' Troy.  Troy.  Not the Men of Troy AKA USC.  Troy.  

 

I know people don't like the blame the players for anything, but these kids need to get on board.  I've been arguing with somebody here about the strength and conditioning of this team.  i think it's behind where it should be and that we were fed a load of poo about how much its improved.  He disagrees and that's fine.  However, I watched Coach Sitake of BYU talk last night about how weak his team was last year and how they stressed getting stronger this offseason.  Well, they out-toughed Wisconsin yesterday.  We need these kids to totally buy in.  Not lip service.  Total buy in.

.................. well. That same Troy lost by 6 to clemson in 2016. Beat LSU in Death valley last year. Wen't 10-3 a year ago and has also been running spread up tempo offenses longer than we have.

Maybe, just maybe, troy isn't as bad as you think. 

And given we have a new head coach and a roster in upheaval with a lot of new faces out there, maybe we as fans should be a bit more understanding. 

well bunch is forcing things now, he needs to calm down and focus

bunch was supposed to keep it there. bad zone read

interesting, not sure ive ever seen Frost dabble with the pistol

mo with great vision

not bad lamarr, not bad

the coaches need to have a long talk about moving lamarr jackson to safety or WR. 

2 minutes ago, Jason Sitoke said:

Bunch killed that drive. But at least we didn’t fumble like last week

The play call was poor. rolling a righty QB left is always risky, the defense wasnt fooled.

19 minutes ago, Making Chimichangas said:

 

The bolded...yes I know. 

 

What I was surprised at was seeing two Boston College OL pulling and going away from where the ball was actually ran to.

 

It surprised me because that means schematically there are two less blockers available on that play because they pulled and neither one really blocked anyone.  Just seemed odd.

Yea that's the point I'm making. It's a misdirection run. Yes you have less blockers. But if the defense is reading the line as their Keyes. They will follow the lineman and take themselves out of the play. 

Combine this with someone who can make a tackler miss and it can get lethal for a defense in a hurry.

5 hours ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

I didn’t see it, but it kinda sounds like what happens in a screen. Not the concept but the fact that you’re letting the defense trick themselves out of the play instead of actually blocking them.

9 hours ago, Making Chimichangas said:

Completely unrelated to Husker football, but still Xs and Os, tonight during the Boston College vs Wake Forest game I saw BC run a running play where they pulled two OL to the left and actually ran the ball to the right.  They got a nice gain out it.  I had to hit rewind on the DVR to make sure my eyes weren't playing tricks on me.  But to my recollection, I honestly can't remember ever seeing any team do anything like that.  It was weird.  I mean I get the concept of it...pulling OL to the left to influence the LB and Ss to flow to the direction of the pulling lineman and then countering to the right.  Just seems odd to pull two OL away from the direction/hole and not have them really block anyone.  It sounds like it wouldn't work schematically due to the defensive numbers advantage on what ends up being playside, but I guess if the defenders reading those two lineman as keys step and flow left, it would negate the numbers disadvantage.

 

Just thought schematically what BC did on that play was pretty interesting. 

It's not uncommon. Plenty of defenses make their defensive reads based on the offensive line, "the line don't lie" i think was what and old defensive coordinator once told me. Problem is in modern football it does and defenses who are over reading the o-line are susceptible to getting burned by the play your talking about. 

Flip side of that, if the defense is reading the back field they won't be fooled and will blow you up in the back field. 

I fear this thread will not live up to the esteemed legacy of the Diaco and Banker threads level of bat s**t crazy and weird.

However i feel the on field product in time will compensate for the lack of entertainment, in a good way of course.

3 hours ago, StPaulHusker said:

Short term for the coaches should have figured out how not to go from 4 scholarship QB’s in December to only 1

 

There is no evidence that Vedral will be good.

 

Long term, our next scholarship QB may not even play QB in college

 

The next one is still 2 years away from getting to campus

 

Its a problem

There is nothing they could do to keep tanner lee and most recently, Gebbia. The only way we would have held onto gebbia was to red shirt Martinez and make gebbia the starter. So not ideal either considering martinez won the job out right.

There is no evidence Vedral will be bad either. And right now, we just need somone who makes good decisions and holds onto the ball.

Mcaffery may play WR, but given our current situation at QB, i think he gets a real look. 

Yes it is a problem, i said as much in my last post. 

11 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said:

Guys look.  The team has a serious problem at QB.  Trying to convince yourself that a walk on will be fine is not going to change that

the long term out look at the position is fine, recruiting at QB has been very good. The problem is what do we do in the short term. And that is a very good question. I feel the best answer is to work over time on the NCAA to get vedral eligible and then let bunch and vedral fight it out for #1. 

But really thats not ideal, so there is no perfect silver bullet fix to this problem that anyone would really like.