35 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

Your proof is 2 random nitwits trying to have a few hahas with a tee shirt?  Ummm ok

You argue the silliest points and just willingly sidestep anything that isn't explicitly spelled out for you. I get it, it makes your arguments easier.

Here's the problem: whether you care to acknowledge it or not, a growing sentiment within the base of your party is that Russia isn't that bad. They're just taking back what's theirs. The other side are the aggressors. They're trying to uphold conservative christian values. Or any other number of ridiculous arguments I've heard that they're not really a threat and other entities are much more clear and present dangers to us as a nation.

Peak ridiculousness i that notion that Russia is constrained under Trump/Republicans generally and only aggressive under Democrats because they're more afraid of the tougher Republicans. Hell, if I go up a few posts you're using a version of this argument.

GOP electeds realize these dynamics and exploit them for their own benefit because their voters are stupid enough to believe this crap. They're not advancing Russian interests because they care about Russia. They just know their voters are utter rubes and they're happy to make them useful idiots if it keeps them in their cushy Washington gigs.

It's bad for the world and it's damaging our democracy.

2 hours ago, Archy1221 said:

You truly believe, like in all honesty, like just you and me talking here and you don’t have to worry about getting any +1’s or oh yeahs from the usual folks believe the Republican Party is trying to advance Russian priorities at the expense of US priorities?  That they want more than anything here, for Russia to be a better country than the US?  That when choosing what’s better for the US or Russia, they would choose Russia?   
 

Like you honestly believe that? 
 

Amazing.  

1 hour ago, ZRod said:

I know, I know. Everybody sucks.

I think everyone of all political stripes can pretty roundly agree Don Lemon sucks.

This just seems like a story of two uber douches trying to out-douche each other, right?

Isn't arguing the rich already pay enough in income taxes kind of a red herring?

Don't the ultra wealthy realize the vast majority of their wealth gains through sources that aren't taxable as income anyway?

48 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

 

Political superfans are just deeply, deeply weird people. It doesn't really matter what team, though Trumpers for sure seem more prone to it in today's political climate.

There's a person who lives a couple blocks away from us who has no less than probably a half dozen (I'm guessing more, I haven't counted) Trump-themed flags draped all over their fence facing the street. Down that street is somebody else proudly rocking a "God, Guns and Trump" flag.

Comparatively, I've got a Biden bumper sticker. I'll put up a yard sign of the candidates we're supporting in elections. But it's not some central part of my identity and I don't feel the need to buy a bunch of custom swag to show everyone how big a fan I am.

What the hell happens to people they get this f#&%ing weird?

16 minutes ago, ZRod said:

Not the end of the world but aTm is not a step up unless something is seriously broken at UNL.

Well I think you answered your own question here…

5 minutes ago, Ratt Mhule said:

Youre thinking of the classified documents case. This is the DC case that has an excellent judge that said she would cancel her summer vacation to hold the trial before the election. Shes just waiting on the SC to make their ruling on immunity. As soon as they do, look to this case to be in high gear. 

Yeah SCOTUS royally screwed the timeline of everything up, multiple times.

It might sound harsh, but anybody that doesn’t view SCOTUS as a decidedly political body doing things with political ends in mind is a moron or being intellectually dishonest. 

2 hours ago, Archy1221 said:

Good.  I guess he can stand trial now instead of getting a free pass 

This badly misstates what he actually found.

Hur is a GOP hack who predictably did GOP hack things in a way to maximize benefit to his party and try his best to damage the opposition. 
 

Even a GOP hack working within those parameters knows there was not enough to charge him.

3 hours ago, TGHusker said:

When the history is written about this current generation of evangelical voters, what will it say?   Being pro-life and supporting a pro-life candidate is understandable.  But being pro-life and supporting a convicted rapist, an insurrectionist, a thief of govt documents, convicted fraudster and a narcistic prided filled opportunist is another. 

If trump wins, we will see in the 2nd term the real cost of evangelical support.  I suspect history will not be kind. 

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-campaign-gets-record-setting-62-million-shot-in-the-arm-from-evangelical-group/ar-BB1jJgpJ?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=efe496d0ae704b1fab21e032cac2490a&ei=59

 

Pay f#&%ING taxes.

3 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

 

I’m sure our resident right-leaning folks think this is no big deal.

Besides, OLD MAN BAD! Also DEI! Have you even SEEN the border lately!?

Ummm, if I could take a brief detour from the very serious analysis of old man bad for just a second...

Does anybody else have serious concerns about a private company posting almost $100M bond for a presidential candidate so he can continue appealing (and immediately continue defaming) the woman he raped?

Once again, louder, for those in the back: A RAPIST is running for president, had his buddy's company post nearly $100M bond so he can appeal his defamation judgment (for attacking the woman he was found to have RAPED) and he lacks the impulse control to not immediately begin attacking her AGAIN.

The CEO of the company was a political appointee of Trump's. They have not disclosed any collateral or where these funds are coming from. Isn't having a president that's bought and paid for by his rich buddies kind of an issue? What is this guy or Chubb Limited going to want in return?

It's amazing so many Americans are now fine with lowering the bar so low for this piece of trash. 

What do you all make of this story?

I mean anyone right of center tends to dismiss out of hand concerns about right-wing Christian nationalism, but isn't that EXACTLY what this is?

Inside A Secret Society Of Prominent Right-Wing Christian Men Prepping For A ‘National Divorce’

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A secret, men-only right-wing society with members in influential positions around the country is on a crusade: to recruit a Christian government that will form after the right achieves regime change in the United States, potentially via a “national divorce.” 

 

It sounds like the stuff of fantasy, but it’s real. The group is called the Society for American Civic Renewal (the acronym is pronounced “sacker” by its members). It is open to new recruits, provided you meet a few criteria: you are male, a “trinitarian” Christian, heterosexual, an “un-hyphenated American,” and can answer questions about Trump, the Republican Party, and Christian Nationalism in the right way. One chapter leader wrote to a prospective member that the group aimed to “secure a future for Christian families.”

 

It’s an uncanny mimicry of the clandestine engine that, in the right-wing’s furthest imaginings, has driven recent social changes and left them feeling isolated and under siege: a shadowy network occupying the commanding heights of business, politics, and culture, open only to a select, elite few, committed to reshaping the United States to align it with the group’s radical values. 

 

The men TPM has identified as behind this group — and they are all men — have a few things in common. They’re all a certain kind of devout Christian traditionalist. They are white. They have means, financial and social, and are engaged in politics.

 

Until TPM began reporting this story several weeks ago, the membership of the group had remained largely secret. Its existence was known and has been previously reported on by The Guardian, but the details of the group’s mission, membership criteria, board, and internal communications remained outside of public view. Beginning late Thursday, some of the leading members of the group identified by TPM through our reporting came forward publicly to acknowledge their memberships in the organization and published an internal document that TPM had already obtained. They said they were doing so in anticipation of another story by The Guardian.

1 hour ago, ZRod said:

Hopefully a lawyer will get a big payday out of this. Can we deport Musk for being a massive douche?

It's incredible conservative American men., who pride themselves on their rugged nature and sheer masculinity, continue to look up to figures like Musk and Trump, who have proven time and time again they're petulant man-babies who completely implode at any type of criticism and lie constantly to maintain their fragile egos.

2 hours ago, JJ Husker said:

No way Trump is not easily in the obese category. If he’s 243 or lighter I’ll eat my hat. Says he is 6’-3” and 215. The eye test appears to be more like 6’-2” tops and easily 250+. BetOnline had the over/under on his weight at 278.5# as recently as Aug 2023.

 

6’-3” & 215…..

I saw this some time ago on the matter and whenever I remember it I always get a good chuckle.

4 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

Welp, he's done.

Re-elected in 2022. He’s safe until 2028.

Nice to see one of them who is presumably safe tell the truth about Trump.

1 hour ago, teachercd said:

JB looks like Bernie from the Documentary "Weekend at Bernies" and trump looks like a b!^@h

 

Here is a real man

 

 

Correct, this is a post board, not real life.

 

Anyway...your thoughts on why fighting sports have weight classes???

Not to threadcrap, but who can forget this all time classic.

This might be the coolest thing he ever did. And believe me I’m not one to foist complements upon Dubya.

16 minutes ago, teachercd said:

I mean...really?

 

You know why there are weight classes, right?

Dana White's been offering $10 off UFC PPV events recently. Hopefully revenues are down, that guy sucks. I'm not forking one cent over to him so I sail the high seas.

I mean, shoot. Joe's old. But so is Trump. And he's the fakest tough guy I've ever seen in my life. Compare their reactions at these two events. Trump's always makes me chuckle. That's the body language of a dude who's gonna fold up like a lawn chair the first time he gets popped in the mouth.

Joe just kinda sit there and watches. I mean it helps like Jill boxed out like she was crashing the boards for a rebound.

1 hour ago, Dr. Strangelove said:

These people are impossibly stupid. But the problem with the American Left is virtue signaling has become more important than electoral outcomes. These people don't think for a nanosecond about the Trump alternative to the issues in Palestine. I hope Trump institutes the most pro-Israeli policies imaginable if nothing else but to show how profoundly idiotic these leftist voters are. 

Maybe I’m being way too generous but I would probably break this lot down into different buckets:

1. Single-issue pro-Palestine hardliners. Ain’t winning these folks.

2. Professional activists who want their attention and clout points. Ditto, and these are worse than 1 because they aren’t even principled, they’re just agitators for selfish reasons.

3. Naive folks whose hearts are largely in the right place but don’t understand or care about domestic politics. And thus don’t understand or care that the alternative makes things much worse. 
4. Dumbass leftists who view themselves as perpetual Overton Window shifters on every issue. Again, not a fan because their politics aren’t principled, just leftist for the sake of being leftist.

Hopefully 3 is the biggest group. They seem like the most likely to come home. 
 

I’m glad they’re pulling this stunt in the primary. Doing so now is more defensible even if I don’t agree with it. But in the general election, you’re definitely playing with fire and stand to get burned pretty badly.

Saw today he was talking about Israel “finishing the problem” in Gaza. As usual his geopolitics is akin to  an 8 year old’s playing with GI Joes- just say whatever he think sounds tough.

But of course Trump is corrupt like Bibi is corrupt. Trump likes Bibi because he thinks they’re friends. Bibi likes Trump because he’s a vain, easily manipulated moron. So no one should be surprised.

11 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

 

What exactly did the expect to find in a diner in Texas?

12 hours ago, Moiraine said:

Makes sense. I understand the sense of urgency but you can't just say someone's bad and then they get kicked off a ballot. Imagine the chaos that would ensue.

And yet, even as the logically correct ruling, it sucks that it has the secondary effect of letting Trump pretend he did nothing wrong.

He’s already touting it as such and his moronic followers lap it up. 
 

Also the Supreme Court issues an inordinate amount of rulings that rely on Congress not being hopelessly broken in order to address major issues. The end result is just a big game of passing the buck somewhere it’s going to sit and gather dust.

2 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

 

I thought about this on the ride to work this morning because they mentioned a renewed trade war with China and stiffer tariffs. 
 

I’m sure those policies will sell well to a lot of folks but polls results like this really just reinforce how financially illiterate most of the electorate is. 
 

Tariffs are a tax on Americans. Lol

25 minutes ago, DevoHusker said:

Maybe some of that  more than $115 billion to Ukraine shoulda, woulda, coulda been used for this?

Maybe those morons could learn to walk and chew bubblegum at the same time.

1 hour ago, BigRedBuster said:

 

Not really a fan of it.  But, it's not quite as it seems.  These people fill out a form on line and book an appointment with an agent in the US.  They are then flown to other parts of the US other than the border which is overwhelmed.  We should know who they are from the form they fill out.  They are being seen by an agent and processed.

If only there were a group of people tasked with working to create new rules and outline specific procedures and protocols that could restore order to this system and help it actually work how it’s supposed to for the betterment of the country and its citizens…

But as far as I know nothing like that exists. I guess we’re just SOL. 

21 minutes ago, ZRod said:

Well, he hasn't been convicted of anything related to January 6th yet. Do there's that...

God willing, if our legal system does it’s thing, he never will…

That’s the plan I think.

In the long run, the ruling is definitely good. Ruling the other way would’ve just been weaponized where both parties would’ve called anything they want an insurrection and used it to kick opponents they don’t like off ballots. As obviously guilty re: Jan 6th as this particular douche is.

Sill sad to see how willing SCOTUS and the broader legal system is to enable his shenanigans. It’s a case study is how a person who has committed multitudes of extremely obvious crimes but has sufficient money behind them and/or friendly judges can just get off scot free. This is the two-tiered legal system cons b!^@h about. It just doesn’t cut the way the claim it does.

1 hour ago, teachercd said:

Okay, this is not a joke but I did some "love making" recently after a dry spell, I won't give you the guys name or how much it cost me, but I was sore (no, not there) in my hamstrings for like 2 days. 

Did they finally reopen the Wichita glory hole?