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Growing up in Illinois let me toss in my two cents.

The reason people have a hard time with many Michigan fans is because Michigan fans like to pretend that Michigan is Harvard. Its not Harvard. The fans really arent bad they are just like any other school. You know how when a kid picks ND over NU and says its because of academics and all the NU fans freak out and start defending NU? Well that is Michigan, 24/7.

Illinois fans usually just wait for basketball season, The illini have it tough because most of the alums live in Chicago which is a decent drive back to campus and those guys just kind of lose touch with the football team. They are great basketball fans though.

MSU has some pretty cool fans and they love to party and they have some hot girls at that place.

Lets face it though, every team has cool fans, ass fans, lame fans, smart fans* and fun fans.

*smart fans are usually the second worst fan if you ask me. Look, the a-hole fan sucks because they are a$$hole$ but the smart fan, the fan that wants to chat with you about blocking schemes or a game that "their" team played 26 years ago or how if "your" corners creep up on run support it will mean a very long day for "your" team, well thats freaking boring as hell.

People, most anyway, in the 21-40 range want to go to a game to drink, drink, eat, chase girls, go to the game and yell, sober up, leave the game and go drink.

Okie State only scared me when BC was here. Him and his first 15 average plays only to watch him get killed after that. I remember Muschamp saying after the cotton bowl how he liked playing "those WCO guys, because after the first 15 plays it was easy to figure them out", no sh#t.

I would not be so quick to think that a younger kid should just beat out a senior. Coaches trust kids that they have known and that have worked hard for them. It is very tough for a head coach to sit a senior that is good for a junior that has potential. You will see a lot of high school weight rooms that have signs saying "Potenial means you have not done anything yet", you have to prove it and most of the time that is proved with lots of time in the program.

Again, he wasnt run down on that kick return, he scored a TD.

He might not have been the number one back because he could very well be 160 pounds (at the start of his junior year), they probably had a senior starter, they probably run between the tackles a lot (like most high school teams) and like the other guy said, the Skers are looking for him to maybe be a DB.

He might be average at best, I really don't know. I just know that looking at a clip from the Ralston game you can't tell either way.

Honestly, I would say I am worried about each game with the exception of WKU and SDSU. I really dont think NU is at the point where they are going to be blowing teams out and be favored by 3 TD's in games.

I hope you dont take this as me trying to be a jerk but first off, DO NOT USE MAX PREPS for stats, not saying they are always wrong but they are usually pretty bad. Just from coaching for the last 10 years in Nebraska I can tell you they are terrible. That doesnt mean his stats are wrong, its just that its a bad source of information. You are better off calling the individual school.

Secondly,I think one time I mentioned that the kid might have been tired on one particular KO return. Thats it.

Third, not every coach will call plays the way you or I think they should. So they might have limited his touches.

4th, he could have been dinged up a lot during the course of the year, lets face it, not every little nagging injury makes the paper.

You asked about stats, remember the Gabberts, they both had craptastic stats, vs craptastic competition and they were both losers in high school. Yet, they were 5 and 4 star guys. I think they both even got dinged up all the time.

High school coaches do what they feel is best for their team. I think that Carriker was a QB in high school, I think Tony Veland might have been too. High school coaches are not worried about what college coaches want. Maybe this year, as a senior, the offense will be switched a bit to focus on him?

Maybe the Beatrice coaches didnt know what they had in him at the start of his junior year, maybe this year he will be "the man". Maybe he was new to the team, new to the community, maybe he started slow, maybe he switched positions maybe the staff had another guy they TRUSTED more, dont forget, trust has a lot to do with it too.

Please dont take this post to be an attack on you or that I am trying to be a dick or know it all, I know sometimes its easy to read a post that way. I am just tossing out some stuff that I think.

I do know what you are saying, you see a kid like this getting some pub and offers and look at his stats and think "he should be kicking ass" but also remember that football is such a team game, its usually not just one kid that makes the difference.

Can't teach speed. I think you'd have a hard time finding a kid that can run a 10.38 anywhere on that Rivals board. Tyler Evans ran around a 10.9-11.0. Eric Crouch (you might remember him) ran a 10.82 & 10.96 at state. Davies is much faster, he's been consistently under a 10.7 from what I can find. Like I said, I have no idea if that 10.38 was wind aided...but regardless that's smoking.

 

You look at the Drake Relays a few weeks ago, Mat Clark won the 100 w/ a 10.95. The 100-Meter record at UNL is "only" 10.16.

 

Maybe Davies, belongs on the track team - but you can't argue the fact he's one heck of an athlete. Everyone gushes over some Louisiana kid that can run a 4.4 40 (Curtis Carter), but the Nebraska kid that can do the same (or faster) isn't that impressive. The coaches can work w/ a raw product, the've shown that. At least we know Davies would still be on the team 4 years from now vs. a Florida speadster that misses home and the sunshine. He deserves a look if for no other reason than he'd be the fastest guy on the team from day 1.

Thank you! Great post! Every point you made is exactly what I was thinking. Like you said, if this kid was from another state then all of a suddent his "times" would mean something. But since he is in state those times are not fast.

There is no denying that some other states might have better competition but you also cant deny that a timed 100 in Nebraska is the same time in any other state.

You dont really question why a kid might have let up a bit after running 100 yards. Come on. I know we like to think that everyone gives 100% all the time but lets face it, none of us do.

Like stated near the start of this thread, everytime a Nebraska kid starts to get some looks lots of people freak out.

Playing both ways is not a bogus excuse for the guys being tired at the end of that LONG TD run, most high school teams put back ups on kick off teams if they can, so you probably had a fresh legged kid chasing down and giving it all, vs a kid who probably had not come off the field.

I am just saying that college coaches dont start offering kids unless they think they are good. I have had D1 coaches in my coaches offices they know what they are looking for and what they are not looking for. Those guys see things differently than you and I do.

I dont know if this kid will be great or not and I dont know if he will get an offer or not but he is on the radar for a reason.

I think sometimes people forget that the kids on the other team are trying too!

Also, I dont think he got ran down, I think he scored a TD on that kick return. Also, there is probably a pretty good chance that it was his 25th touch of the game on offense or special teams, not to mention he probably plays both ways. Maybe, just maybe he might have gotten a bit tired while running that kick back...and still scored.

God, so a Nebraska kid will get an NU offer and all the old BCers will freak out. I can't wait.

KC, I think you even went as far as to offer an opinion on how the staff should recruit and how many offers they should send out.

 

Anyway, its cool, I am sure neither of us really care about bickering in the end. I imagine we both think the staff is doing a very good job and only getting better.

 

Hmmm...where was that at? At what point did I say how many offers they should send out? I said how many offers they DID send out last year because Rivals turned off the count (which was very useful so not really sure why they did that). That I confess. The other stuff is just you making assumptions and twisting things into something they aren't.

 

I'm done though - I give up on this one. Before you know it you'll find something I said and turn it into me saying our coaches hate puppies, touch little boys or some other obscure stretch of the imagination.

Good thinking, I give up too.

KC, I think you even went as far as to offer an opinion on how the staff should recruit and how many offers they should send out.

Anyway, its cool, I am sure neither of us really care about bickering in the end. I imagine we both think the staff is doing a very good job and only getting better.

Ummmm, you are getting tired with trusting the coaches when it comes to recruiting?

 

Dude, why? We have no reason to beleive that they dont know what they are doing. Wait until/if they f#*k up, then dont trust them. Dont be so cynical man.

 

Read the post 'dude'. I never said I was getting tired of trusting the coaches. To sum it up since you probably won't take the time, or can't comprehend it anyway - I said I get tired of someone trying to argue their point with "trust the coaches". That in no way contributes to the discussion. I'm quite confident that every single person here trusts the coaches (at least about 99% of the time anyway) - so you don't need to tell me you trust the coaches...I already know that. It just get's old every time someone mentions anything negative about a recruit seeing the same "insightful" theory of "trust the coaches" offered up, which usually just kills the discussion anyway...and the discussion is the point of a board and forum. If it was just about facts and updates we'd have a news feed.

 

 

Wow did you go internet tough guy on me? classic.

 

Ummm, if you already know that we (yourself included) trust the coaches, then why are you not trusting the coaches?

 

Don't get me wrong, I know what you are trying to say, you just dont know how to say it. Look, you finding fault with a recruit or something negative with a recruit means probably close to nothing because we can assume you have no experience with finding recruits or coaching. I could be wrong though.

 

I have coached football for 10 years now and I still find it very very hard to predict how younger players will develop as they grow and mature. But I can read 100 posts on here with lots of "experts" telling me how a kid plays with his hips high, or doesnt "explode" off the ball." Its like everyone here is a college coach.

 

Input is one thing and opinion is one thing but if you trust the staff like you claim then I would imagine your "issues" with a player would go away until a later date when/if they dont pan out.

 

Now, since you just got smacked around a bit I am going to assume you will be bitter and jaded but instead of ruining this thread with that bitterness just PM if you still want to tell me something. If not, then lets just drop it. It is usually annoying when people consider their own opinion as "insightful" and "adding to the discussion" when it is really just a chance to spout off and pretend like they know something about a kids ability to play from a 3 minute video.

Well I mean we are all Nebraska fans...the best, most knowledgeable fans in the country

 

2nd bolded part, didn't the Cleveland Browns just sign someone from Canada after watching a 3 minute youtube video. I watched it to and he's going to be starting day one

That is a funny post!!

I saw that thing about the browns too, signing that former hockey player who turned out to be like 6'7 350 pounds!

I guess we really do have the most intelligent fans ever, i totally forgot that!

Ummmm, you are getting tired with trusting the coaches when it comes to recruiting?

 

Dude, why? We have no reason to beleive that they dont know what they are doing. Wait until/if they f#*k up, then dont trust them. Dont be so cynical man.

 

Read the post 'dude'. I never said I was getting tired of trusting the coaches. To sum it up since you probably won't take the time, or can't comprehend it anyway - I said I get tired of someone trying to argue their point with "trust the coaches". That in no way contributes to the discussion. I'm quite confident that every single person here trusts the coaches (at least about 99% of the time anyway) - so you don't need to tell me you trust the coaches...I already know that. It just get's old every time someone mentions anything negative about a recruit seeing the same "insightful" theory of "trust the coaches" offered up, which usually just kills the discussion anyway...and the discussion is the point of a board and forum. If it was just about facts and updates we'd have a news feed.

Wow did you go internet tough guy on me? classic.

Ummm, if you already know that we (yourself included) trust the coaches, then why are you not trusting the coaches?

Don't get me wrong, I know what you are trying to say, you just dont know how to say it. Look, you finding fault with a recruit or something negative with a recruit means probably close to nothing because we can assume you have no experience with finding recruits or coaching. I could be wrong though.

I have coached football for 10 years now and I still find it very very hard to predict how younger players will develop as they grow and mature. But I can read 100 posts on here with lots of "experts" telling me how a kid plays with his hips high, or doesnt "explode" off the ball." Its like everyone here is a college coach.

Input is one thing and opinion is one thing but if you trust the staff like you claim then I would imagine your "issues" with a player would go away until a later date when/if they dont pan out.

Now, since you just got smacked around a bit I am going to assume you will be bitter and jaded but instead of ruining this thread with that bitterness just PM if you still want to tell me something. If not, then lets just drop it. It is usually annoying when people consider their own opinion as "insightful" and "adding to the discussion" when it is really just a chance to spout off and pretend like they know something about a kids ability to play from a 3 minute video.

Ummmm, you are getting tired with trusting the coaches when it comes to recruiting?

Dude, why? We have no reason to beleive that they dont know what they are doing. Wait until/if they f#*k up, then dont trust them. Dont be so cynical man.

Vince, I think you might be looking at recruiting from a fans point of view. I think this is what most of us do, we see a kid who rushed for 2000 yards and we are shocked he didnt get an offer, or we see a big muscle bound kid not get an offer and are shocked.

The thing is, coaches are looking at the future and how a kid will be once they get their hands on him. I think that is the hardest part of recruiting, is you are basically trying predict the future.

In this kids case there is a thought that he is pushing around kids that are tiny and weak and that the football they are playing sucks. That might all be true, but the staff seems to think that he has something special about it.

Yeah, see I think I worded my post in a pretty lame way.

I dont think he should feel like he deserves an offer from NU or any school. But now that he is getting offers I can see why he would look at the schools that are interested in him and putting their money where their mouth is (with a scholly).

I just mean that I could see why he would start to look at other schools.

I dont really blame him, if you feel like you got "dissed" and you have lots of other options, like it appears he will, then I would look other places too.

In the end, the kid has to do what he thinks will be best for him or where he thinks he will feel the best.

I am not saying that Poppa K is in anyway related to Jeff Worthy, but I think that Poppa K might kinda know him.

He is not in yet, he is still waiting for scores.

And yes, he is kind of a bad interview because he gives short answers, I am sure he was just uncomfortable.

Gmoose,

The stats you point out are very impressive, no doubt. I think the thing is, Sherman is not a great coach, most WCO teams get figured out pretty quick when teams have time to prepare (See the bowl game vs UGA).

Now, you mix in another year of teams scheming them, you mix in the fact that the WCO is generally not effective vs decent teams that have some good coaches and all of a sudden you have AM losing games they "shouldnt"

Hahaha! That's pretty funny. We essentially write the same post at the same time. Cheers!

I know thats cool!!

By the way, I have coached football for 10 years now and you might be shocked how little I still know! I have coached

WR's

OLBers

Special Teams

Been a Head Coach

and currently am a DC

yet, I am lost at times.

No, NU fans are not the most intelligent or least intelligent. Just like NU fans are not the nicest fans or the biggest d******d fans.

Its the same at every school in the country, you have some these type of "intelligent fan"

1. Guy who cares a ton about the team but doesnt bother to know the players anymore (generally like a older dad or grandpa)

2. Guy who cares about the parties that go with the game more then the game (generally you want a few guys like this in your group)

3. Guy who knows all the stats and facts and will constantly tell you that he knows it all (this is like posters on bigredboard.com or a few select posters on HI)

4. Guys who knows all the stats and facts and is super friendly

5. Guy who doesnt know much but tries to act like he does.

There is nothing wrong with that statement.

Dont you think Sanders spent time with Cooper because they are both from the Chicago area? Does that make it "wrong".

People need to get over themselves.

Okay, that Dubsker poster has a point, NU fans do freak out when fans of other teams, on their own sites, think that their team will win vs the skers.

Secondly, everyone needs to read all those posts, its classic stuff!!