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Wouldn't put this all on Sims.

Offense is inept. Teddy needs to start over Corcoran and Evan-Jenkins needs to start somewhere on that line (dude was impressive when he was in). Since the current WRs aren't cutting it we need to go young. The young WRs are at least more threatening than the current guys.  Then

Rhule and Co need to develop a gameplan around Ervin/Johnson and the TEs.

2 minutes ago, BoSolich said:

well we hired the wrong coach. they built a better offense in 1 offseason than we've had in 10 years.

We may get cooked. 

Rhule is lucky Mickey had his situation or this week would have been unbearable for him and Trev.

Hope Satterfield mimics Florida's 2020 offense with WR K. Toney and TE K. Pitts. That offense was a problem.

15 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:

If Mickey ever wants to be a head coach in college football, he should go pursue head coaching jobs which will get him enough experience to be attractive to big name programs.  Yes, someone will throw out Dabo Swinney as a guy who came out of nowhere to be great at Clemson, but that's one name in the 21st century.

I have moved all across the country over the pass 20 years and I can emphatically say people don't see us as a big name program and when outside BigTen and Big12 country most have forgotten we exist.  The know us as the team that was good 20+ years ago.

Regardless, you assert that Rhule is a finished product because he has experience. I doubt he is a finished product.

43 minutes ago, StuckinCO said:

But what did he really accomplish Yes they played harder. But they still didn’t WIN .  Against one of the weakest schedules in college football. Illinois is marginal, Michigan is ok, everybody especially was garbage. And he had way less to work with when he took over that Baylor team than Mickey did here. I can’t speak to what was there at Temple 
 

Yes Rhule had poor results in his first years. But he had real tangible results after that. He made poor programs  competitive.  Those are tangible results. Could Mickey do the same?

Maybe, maybe not. I love Mickey as much as the next Husker fan, but can we really afford to take a chance with a guy with zero head coaching experience? He still mismanages the clock, and any experienced head coach would have done something with Whipple. 
 

I really hope he stays and has a long future with us, possibly in that head coach capacity at some point. I just don’t think he’s ready yet. 

We are likely to be Northwestern's only win this season. He accomplished a lot from where we started. 

And you can't compare having your own staff, off season, and playing in the weak Big12 to inheriting a mess mid season in the BIG10 while beating a team we have lost to in the past seven years, and almost beating Wisc. 

You're drinking the kool-aid. Nebraska hadn't been to a bowl game in 5 seasons. Prior to Rhule, Baylor and Temple had been to at least 3 bowl games in their past 5 seasons.

I get it people wanted to go with the safe pick, but the safe picks of MR and Frost have got us nowhere.

The players loved MJ and he deserved to be interviewed.

43 minutes ago, StuckinCO said:

So we beat the spread.  How is that in any way relevant? If we’re 30 point dogs and lose by 29, are we supposed to feel good about it? Is that equivalent to a participation trophy?

 

“Multiple opportunities to win games late in the second half”. How many did we actually win? If we’re going to count chances to win we could have just kept Frost. 

 

I applaud the effort he put in, and the kids did seem to play hard for him. But that doesn’t come close to qualifying him to be the head coach. 

This wasn't his staff! And he was able to accomplish those results.

Folks like you make no sense. You're ok diminishing MJ's qualifications for being HC, but the guy we are bringing in had lesser results his first years at Temple and Baylor, and those were teams that at least two years prior had winning records. Rhule went 3-21 his first years at Baylor and Temple respectfully. MJ won 3 games with a staff that wasn't his, and for a team he took over mid season.

You can doubt all you want, but if MJ goes elsewhere and becomes a successful HC, I hope he never comes back or looks back. And no one here could blame him for it.

6 hours ago, The Whale said:

If the AD KNOWS he’s not going to hire MJ, an interview would be a waste of everyone’s time.

From where Frost left this team to where it is now MJ deserves a lot of credit. Very few thought we would stood a chance to win games in the East after GA Southern, and in spite of that we beat the spread on every game but Illinois, with multiple opportunities to win games late in the second half.

What he did was remarkable given where we were. No one  can doubt the way this team played under him he would have beat both NW and GA Southern, which would make him bowl eligible in his first year with a staff that wasn't his. Not to mention if he had his own staff Wisc and Minn would have likely been wins. 

The man was deserving of a minimum to be interviewed. And honestly should have had the job.

15 minutes ago, BIG ERN said:

I would rather have him get recruits and be a tough nose ACH/WR....

They didn't give the man the dignity of an interview. I hope he becomes a successful HC and never looks back. 

Let's light this candle

Really hope he can pull one or both these games out. Out of the names mentioned, MJ is more than deserving of his shot.

34 minutes ago, HuskerNation1 said:

The fact that we have not heard anything after the Michigan game makes me think that Trev's pick is a current HC and we will not know until after the regular season ends.  If it were MJ or somebody not coaching, there would not be much reason not to share by now.

Odds are you right on the outside coach but I wouldn't count MJ out just yet. I think one reason for not announcing MJ right now is a lot of coaches are going to get canned. And if MJ were announced right now the media would be in a frenzy trying to figure out which coaches he would keep.

Whoever the guy is needs to realize it's not just about development, especially with USC coming into the league, you need to be able to recruit as well. 

7 minutes ago, TGHusker said:

A couple of things:

Good recruiting plus good development makes for a very good team.  Michigan's patience with Coach H has paid off.  He has developed a good offensive line that allows them to play smashmouth football.

 

There was a big drop off from last year's near win to this team.  The loss of super seniors plus some others who left early is very telling. 

Makes you wonder what Frost was doing these past 4 seasons.

I think cryptocurrency will be a thing once internet matures, maybe into the metaverse, and their is a need for a more universal currency. But right now, I just don't see the point.

Movie was great! But sad.

47 minutes ago, Husker03 said:

Had we won, no, Mickey still is not qualified to be HC. 
 

 

That's just being a hater.

All first term Presidents have no experience running a country, but we still elect them. And I imagine running a country is more complicated than running a football team.

Experience is an overrated stat that folks put in some make believe formula that they hope will equate to a successful HC. Imagine if only all the ADs around the country knew that to be successful you just need to hire a coach with experience...

Rhule went 2-10 and 1-11 his first years at Temple and Baylor with staffs that were HIS. MJ is keeping pace with those stats on a team that he has only lead for 2 months.

With the new BIG contract we are not a monetary dumpster fire as some folks want us to believe. And I'm not concerned for a second about the sellout streak as BAMA, UGA, Clemson etc. have done just fine without as many sellouts.

MJ's ceiling is high. A lot higher than the others on Feldman's list. And he is showing he can be competitive under less than desirable circumstances. 

Not saying he gets the nod but he has done nothing to be dismissed.

Minn was favored by 15.5, and we lost by 7 with a chance to win in the fourth. And folks are upset because we didn't pull the upset or Chubba. Chubba I get, but if we won would everyone who doesn't want MJ as HC been equally as enthusiastic to say MJ should be HC? 

12 minutes ago, M.A. said:

 

Mickey was handed a mess. Really there's a minimum that he can accomplish. It's an audition of sorts. Far from an ideal one though. That doesn't mean that he's simply given the job nor does it mean that he failed miserably if the accomplishments aren't spectacular. He takes the responsibility seriously and is doing his best. 

100% agree.

While wins matter, I think Trev is mostly concerned about how Mickie is running the program. I've heard more 'you have to respect the process and once you do the wins will come' talk from NU, than I've heard in a long time. 

From what I've seen and heard, attitudes in the program are changing and it's only been a month and a half. That's impressive. The wholesale change folks are holding MJ to account for, with most of the same coaches and players that lost to NW earlier this year, are unreasonable. 

Dont care if the interim coach was Saban, he can't grow lineman in the middle of the season or make them more athletic.

If folks want someone else as HC, just say that. Don't need to bash the man for unreasonable expectations.

5 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:

2019 Indiana ended up 8-5 and NU was playing without Adrian.

 

I agree that NU under Frost lost to some bad West division teams. My comments were about the cross-over games against bad teams in the Big Ten East. Mickey was able to take advantage of beating bottom of the league teams in Indiana and Rutgers, which Frost was also able to do regularly.  So, that’s not a huge accomplishment by Mickey IMO, especially considering how poorly NU played against Rutgers. 

Frost wasn't able to beat the worst team in the BIG this year...

Not saying MJ gets the nod, but don't take away from his successes.

20 minutes ago, HuskerNation1 said:

 

Nebraska cannot risk a work in progress leader that has no prior head coaching experience outside of his current interim status. It may not be fair to Joseph, but Trev has to find somebody with a greater resume as a head coach.  

There will be worts on every coach that comes here. And if your expectation is whomever the HC is won't lose a few games in their first season, then this fan base won't be deserving of whomever we get. Even Saban lost six games his first year at BAMA.

6 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:

Is he doing all that well with what he has?  Today, the team looked a lot like how they played under Frost.  If Mickey were doing all that well, then shouldn't NU be playing significantly better?  Mickey's wins were against two of the worst teams in the Big Ten, and the Rutgers game was a terribly played game.  I hear fans saying "NU is playing better under Mickey" but NU is playing about the same as they were last year.  Mickey has taken advantage of trading out Michigan State and Ohio State for Indiana and Rutgers.

 

TO inherited one of the best programs in college football, and struggled to maintain that level his first 6 years.  I admit Bo did very well as a first-time head coach, but he had been a successful DC at three different college programs before coming back to NU as Head Coach.  Bo also inherited a lot of talent, especially on defense.  This year's coaching hire is a lot different situation than either TO's or Bo's situations.  This program is in need of a complete rebuild.  It needs a new voice leading this team.  I would rather have an experienced head coach who has led programs before.

Frost was the head coach literally a month and half ago. So of course there will be similarities. But unlike Frost, who could choose his staff, players, and everything else that comes with being HC, MJ has not been afforded that same luxury. He is finding ways just like any new HC that'll come and make the most of what he got.

And I think that is a point you're not getting, there will be teething pains with ANY new hire.

100% agree with you, but the rebuild is happening now. This team would beat Georgia Southern and NW if those games were played now. I call that progress

5 minutes ago, 3gunhusker said:

dude, you are drinking early.

No, I'm an adult who understands wholesale change doesn't happen in a month and a half. You my child may go to bed.

5 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:

How do we know he's a great coach?  He could be a really good position coach, but that's about it.

 

I heard this on the radio after the game, and it is something I said shortly after Mickey was named Interim Head Coach.  If you don't want to count this year's games against him, then let's throw this season out completely and go back to last year.  If Trev would have fired Frost last year, would Mickey have been a serious candidate to be hired for the head coaching job?  If that answer is no, then there should be a lot of other candidates ahead of him on the pecking order.

Just because MJ wouldn't have got the opportunity if Frost was fired last season to be HC, doesn't mean he wouldn't be a good HC.

Frost, Riley, Callahan all had HC cred but weren't nearly as successful as Bo no with HC experience. Let's not mention TO also didn't have HC creds before he got the nod.

The man is doing well with what he has, and the situation he was brought into.