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Eichorst is taking a long view of the program. He doesn't give two sh#ts about Bo. He's looking at the buyout and wants to make sure that IF he pulls the trigger, he has a majority of booster/fan support and is not going to take us out of the frying pan an into the fire.

 

I really, really think Bo wants to leave. I think he hates it here. I think Bo was really hoping he would get fired so that the misery would end. Eichorst is in no rush, so why not make Bo sit in the smokehouse a little longer? Breathe it in, Bo; breathe it in. If you think Iowa was bad, wait till Bo marinates in this for a month and plays a pissed of Big 12 team in the BWW bowl. On Thursday, Bo was under the local media microscope. Now, he's under the national media's microscope. Maybe the sudden realization that he's still going to have to coach this team makes Bo amenable to resigning in exchange for a reduced buyout. The possibilities are endless.

 

If Bo hangs on, it's only going to get worse. Eichorst is not going to renew his contract, so recruiting is going to wither. Soon, we'll start having losing seasons. Bo will be the laughing stock of the coaching community and will be regarded by everyone in Nebraska as the enemy of the state. At that point, it becomes very easy and much cheaper to get rid of him. This might be against the short-term best interests of Nebraska, but again, Eichorst is taking a long view. The short term is not as much his concern.

 

Bo is done at Nebraska. The only question is how long Eichorst is going to let him languish on death row before he flips the switch.

 

The bolded statement I completely agree with. I think Bo is ready to leave and doesn't want to be here anymore. If rumors of Bo wanting to take the tOSU position were true, is it possible the NU administration refused to allow him to interview for it and Bo begrudgingly stayed?

 

The underlined statement. Are Husker fans willing to go thru this? This is Nebraska after all where we've had one losing season in how many decades? We all know how things went when Callahan went 4-7 and the fans teeth gnashing that endured. Is Eichorst willing to endure the pressure he will face if this were to pan out? Are fans willing to endure that on the assumption this is all part of a much larger plan to bring the program back to dominance?

Hujan, that was a very thought-provoking original post. Though I really hope your theory is wrong, especially the part HuskerfaninOkieLand underlined and then expounded on. Watching the program wither and recruiting suffer would be so disheartening. I really doubt that Eichorst allows it to get that far. It would really make Bo's tenure worthless (and he has accomplished good and turned us around).

I tend to believe Pelini doesn't hate the fans as a whole. He hates the minority that vocalize their displeasure and attack his players. Unfortunately, that minority has grown over the past few years and his players have had the pressure turned up on them. Don't think the players haven't heard it, even after they graduate...

https://twitter.com/...545685769887744

 

I know Bo can't worry about everything that anyone says but to see this come from our own fans.... it makes me fight harder to support Bo and the team. Crazy to think that people will actually write this stuff knowing that their names are attached to it and others can see how the "fans" who post it really are. Hope this dude gets a nice cold shoulder from co-workers/friends for his moronic comments.

 

Yeah, he thinks all the fans showing him support are just "great." (And he sounded so convincing about that too!)

Pelini's comments have more to do with the media agenda than anything else.

I'd really like to believe that. But I kind of feel like a jilted lover when hearing those statements in combination with that stupid audio tape coming out this year.

I tend to believe Pelini doesn't hate the fans as a whole. He hates the minority that vocalize their displeasure and attack his players. Unfortunately, that minority has grown over the past few years and his players have had the pressure turned up on them. Don't think the players haven't heard it, even after they graduate...

https://twitter.com/...545685769887744

 

I know Bo can't worry about everything that anyone says but to see this come from our own fans.... it makes me fight harder to support Bo and the team. Crazy to think that people will actually write this stuff knowing that their names are attached to it and others can see how the "fans" who post it really are. Hope this dude gets a nice cold shoulder from co-workers/friends for his moronic comments.

Yeah, he thinks all the fans showing him support are just "great." (And he sounded so convincing about that too!)

how can anyone be happy with a coach that hates his fans, acts like a petulant child whenever the chips are down, and has not progressed the program at all since his second year. we are not only worse, our competition has been a joke.

I think the answer is, they are younger fans that don't realize that things can (and have been) better. They forget we had 35 years of success prior to Callahan showing up.

 

Beanman, I think there is definitely something to that theory. The defeatist attitude certainly seems to surround the younger bunch.

it really should not though. if you watch the games, you can clearly see the team on the field is under-performing. and if you watch the B1G, there is no reason we should not be able to compete every year. we should never have more then 2 losses in B1G play. not the way it is right now.

 

Seems like a short time ago we were talking about a "scoring explosion" and a weak ass schedule we were going to bowl right through. Hmm. The injuries to this team deserve to be acknowledged as a reason for failing, sure they do. Now, this staff has utilized every possible excuse for failing that is available to them in the last six years. Legitimate excuses? Sure probably. It still amazes me though how every year the excuse jumps for one,area to the other.

 

First it was great defense poor offense.

Then it was Watsons fault so we fired him and got Beck.

Then Beck was a god send, but we couldn't possibly win games with all this coaching turnover on the offense and defense.

So finally Becks offense scores points but the defense is sh#t.

Unfortunately, our first couple recruiting classes turned out to be terrible. So there's that excuse.

Turnovers, well, thats the constant excuse.

Now the schedule set up to where there were no excuses for that previous "well we made the jump to the Big Ten " excuse. You know, where we couldn't possibly expect these coaches to win right away after that move. They needed more time.

By God, just when you thought the excuses had to be about out, 35 of our starting 22 players get injured. Unfortunately killing another season.

 

I know I'm missing some but damn, I'm worn out from all these excuses already. What will the excuse be next year? It's only a matter of when not "if" anymore.

Haven't you heard? The new excuse is us fans. We're vitriol and our obsession with winning is tearing the team apart.

We had a few moments to remember, for sure. The Hail Mary will live on forever. Dominating in Michigan (by far the most complete game we played all year). Winning in OT at Penn St.

 

But 2013 had been targeted by everyone since joining the B1G in 2011 as the year when we would probably re-enter the national conversation. We were going to have a senior QB with tons of experience, an offense that we thought would rival Ohio St, a coaching staff that had mostly been together for 5 years, and a schedule that we knew would be far weaker than what we faced our first two years in the B1G.

 

Whether it was bad coaching or bad luck, or a combination of both, it was fairly disappointing to me. Just had too long to target this year as "the one."

 

Instead of seeing a seasoned, gelled team tear up the league, we mostly saw a mediocre team playing tight games against bad competition.

This guy gets it. Sorry, sir, I'm out of +1s.

I, for one, look forward to a mistake riddled bowl performance. It's really entertaining when I can almost pinpoint the moments the team will have a penalty, fumble, interception or horrific special teams play. Gives me something else to do instead of shake my head in disgust. But hey, these kids will run through a wall for Bo but learning and playing fundamentally sound football is where they draw the line.

Thank god for you sir.

PLEASE forward your resume and qualifications to Eichorst.

 

Then maybe you can become a positve influence for this site and diminish the overwhelming amount of negativity.

I sometimes feel the only way to satisfy some posters would be 13-0 seasons with 13 shutouts, no penalties, mistakes or injuries.

 

333 sellouts speaks to something. When the fans stop coming, we then have a problem. Til then, voice your opinion, but support the players, staff and admin

First of all, that's already happening. Looked at the student section lately? And you think that ticked off boosters are going to continue to buy up seats to help protect the streak? An inflamed fanbase at least shows passion for the team. Apathy is much, much scarier.

+1

The way this has gone down so far is pretty unprofessional when compared to the class this program typically exudes. Local media have played a very big hand in all of this... Sure the "this smacks of Solich" and "give Bo another shot" articles made the rounds the last couple weeks, but how many articles have we seen from them that have gone the exact opposite direction, so as to be inflammatory? And now another microphone gate? *Insert the "Come On Man!" soundtrack for Monday Football here*

One of the reasons I expect him to be gone is that he has virtually NO visible active supporters either locally or nationally.

 

Case in point. Last night on ESPN, (who normally deems us unworthy of even a mention when discussing college football), LED OFF with Bo's presser and then proceeded to rail about how every story concerning Bo negatively reflects on the University..........conveniently ignoring how they are contributing to it). Of course, no mention of the myriad of injuries that have contributed to our debacles on this season. (While they continue to fawn and cover the Florida injury situation as if it impacts the implementation of Obamacare). The Bo story even preceded the tale of Arkansas going winless in the vaunted SEC for the first time in decades. Just when does a losing coaches presser trump an SEC record? When they can trash Nebraska/Bo, that's when.

 

The fact is that Bo has such a reputation that he is NOT going to get a call; we are NOT going to get positive spin on ESPN or like-minded spouters; and it translates into a need for a fresh start (regardless of whether warranted by record or behavior or not).

I don't know why this surprises you that much. Florida is in the SEC and they are partners with ESPN, so of course they will cover them more and help make excuses for a team like Florida. I have said this a few times about Bo and I still feel this way, I really hope he stays with different coordinators. I would like to see them hire an offensive coordinator that can help to give us some consistency and I would like to see them make Bo the HC/DC. It will be interesting to see how things play out in the next few weeks.

Eh, he had a ton of opportunities prior to this year to find different coordinators outside of the insulated bubble of buddies he's now created. Also, I'm under the impression that he is the HC/DC currently. At least that's been the speculation around these parts. In any event, the situation is suddenly too contentious for him to stay. I wouldn't have said that 48 hours ago, but look at the swirling mess we're in now. Can anyone imagine how awkward it would be at this point if he doesn't go? It's like refusing to tell your wife you love her, letting all your buddies tell her that you hate her, having her tell you that if you want a divorce just divorce her, and then waiting a few days and saying to her, "actually I've decided we can stay hitched." Oh and in the meantime the entire community you live in is posting, tweeting, and talk-showing about your relationship.

Being the first Anti Bo poster I guess, since the day he arrived. I to felt sorry for him today, and I do not think the press conference was any worse than when another coach loses. He was upset, they played poorly and he was hurting. The press is trained to attack the blood in the water, so guess what they did.

 

He has been asked a million times about his job, he does not make the decision, so how can he comment on what they are going to do. It would be very frustrating to answer the same stupid question over and over.

 

I think the kids do love and respect him, but he really needs the fans love and respect. He has had a good share of them on his side, and I even changed my initial opinion of him somewhat. I know he wants to win, but his us against the world agenda is a fail. If he stays, he must make some effort to correct that attitude. I think he lost a lot more die hard Bo fans today, and that will be measured by our AD.

I agree with your post though I don't think Bo lost any "die hard" fans today. The true fans wanted Bo Pelini to return after Bill Callahan because Bo brought his 'fire' and aggressive attitude during his year here in 2003. Those fans should not be swayed simply because the media and Rod Gilmore (ABC commentator who seemed to dislike everything about Nebraska except for the fans) said that Bo was out of line. You do make some very valuable points though and please do continue to post your thoughts.

LOL at the guy with 8 posts saying this to a guy with 5,000+

Bo made a complete fool of himself today, repeatedly.

 

I had been a solid supporter, and really believed he should have been given 1-3 more years.

 

He now has made himself, the team, the school, look like a joke in a crude manner that eclipses his past transgressions.

 

I have done a 180 and think the sooner the door hits him in the ass, the better. I wonder how many others he lost today. And it had nothing to do with Iowa winning. It had everything to do with our team wildly underperforming, even with the injuries. For me, it was all about Bo and his immature, embarrassing behaviour.

 

Just curious, what about what he did today was that much different than what he has done before? The last year or two he's been minding his Ps and Qs, but nothing he did today seemed (at least to me) that much more offensive than past incidents that he has had. He's always been contentious to media. He's always been less than receptive to the fans. He's always been prone to outbursts. What about today set you over the edge?

 

For one, he threw his cap at an official, good god. #2 mouthed off to the reporter at 1/2 time then again went all "Bo mode" in the post game. There's video here to show. Basiclly Bo did everything you could to get fired

And I'm not disagreeing that all of that was horrible and reflected on the University badly. I also don't disagree that he's quite possibly attempting to be fired, collect his money for passing GO, and then GTFO. I'm just making the point that he's had temper tantrums with officials countless times since he's been here (though as I said, not as much recently). Remember the incident where he berated Martinez on the sideline and put his finger into Martinez's chest? Then of course the infamous, profanity-laden rant that was brought to light this year... Anyway, today's behavior just seemed like Pelini from 2-3 years ago.

If they are going let Bo Pelini go, then they NEED to do it sooner rather than later. At the end of the day, I will root for Nebraska no matter who its coach is. I'm disappointed by the loss and the way we've played in our losses.

 

I felt that in the Minnesota and Iowa game, we just didn't get a good effort out of our guys. I felt that in Michigan State and UCLA, we just gave the game away with silly turnovers or a lack of offense.

 

If you take a look at how we've lost games, just this year:

 

UCLA: We were up 21-3. We should have finished that game. I don't care if we would've only won by 3 points, but an 18 point lead should not be squandered.

Minnesota: Up 10 points early, that was a game that should have been managed better.

Michigan State: 5 turnovers, still had an opportunity to win the game. Makes you question what would've happened had we not turned that over.

Iowa: Down 7 points, we run a fake punt deep on our side of the field that doesn't work. Iowa goes up 14 as a result.

 

There shouldn't have been a game that we lost. Had we lost to just Michigan State and Minnesota or just UCLA and Michigan State, given the injuries and the youth, I think there would be a lot more leeway given to Bo. BUT we didn't, we lost to all 4 of those teams.

 

So, if they let Bo go, they need to do it sooner rather than later.

 

Only if we actually have a plan. If we're going to scramble and botch another hire, I'd rather keep Bo and get our 8 or 9 wins next year.

This. I hope we do have a plan, now that Bo has basically dared the powers that be to fire him (and his whole attitude, the fans' attitudes, and the silence from the University suggest that this relationship will not last much longer). If we don't have a plan, this whole thing was mismanaged very badly. If we weren't considering outsing Pelini, the story should have been squashed immediately last week. Because a loss was only going to ignite this. And now here we are.

Bo made a complete fool of himself today, repeatedly.

 

I had been a solid supporter, and really believed he should have been given 1-3 more years.

 

He now has made himself, the team, the school, look like a joke in a crude manner that eclipses his past transgressions.

 

I have done a 180 and think the sooner the door hits him in the ass, the better. I wonder how many others he lost today. And it had nothing to do with Iowa winning. It had everything to do with our team wildly underperforming, even with the injuries. For me, it was all about Bo and his immature, embarrassing behaviour.

Just curious, what about what he did today was that much different than what he has done before? The last year or two he's been minding his Ps and Qs, but nothing he did today seemed (at least to me) that much more offensive than past incidents that he has had. He's always been contentious to media. He's always been less than receptive to the fans. He's always been prone to outbursts. What about today set you over the edge?

Positives:

Our defense turned out to be better than expected and will be very good next year.

Ameer Abdullah has a heart the size of the state

Kenny Bell would take on the devil if he had Bo on his side (I think that's a positive?)

Valentine looked good. He is also a very big man, don't let him sit on you.

Not-so-positives:

Westerkamp's stache. When you play that poorly with a mustache like that, you look like a giant caricature... It's only funny when you're winning.

Enunwa's drops. Turns out he may be regretting those subtle jabs he made about Martinez's passing abilities. He's had some missed opportunities this week and against Michigan State.

Pelini's circus. We're relevant, guys! Just check twitter!

Creative playcalling. WTF was that fake punt?

New regime. It looks like Pelini will be taking his millions and laughing all the way to the bank, some bank far, far away from Lincoln. And now it will be time to rebuild. Hopefully it happens faster than 6 years from now.

He did get rocked pretty hard.

LOL @ this thread when so many people in the game day thread were complaining that Cross was lousy and we needed Abdullah to stop taking breathers on the sideline.

Nebraska has a scholarship QB who turned the ball over 3 times today. Texas Tech has a walk on freshman and Baylor is down two scores now.

Not anymore. Now that walk on is down by 22 points. Just sayin'

Just an FYI for everyone here..

 

Every. Single. Turnover....was by a freshman. Let that sink in.

4 of those turnovers were the most gift wrapped preventable turnovers possible. Catch the pitch. Throw the ball to the receiver. Hold onto the ball (punt). Hold onto the ball(fumble on 1). IT'S BASIC FOOTBALL. Freshman have nothing to do with it. These guys were taught these simple fundamentals 15 years ago.

 

 

Freshman have less time playing ball and adjusting to the game at this level and if you think that's not part of the problem, then step away from the bong. It does matter.

Agree. Why the heck were we throwing a pitch to a freshman at that point anyway? Where was Abdullah? Why would we not give Newby an opportunity at a normal handoff before bringing him in cold to handle a pitch by a quarterback known for haphazard/risky pitching!?

I hate to be a negative Nancy, but I totally agree with NUpolo. That was a horrible game in so many ways. We had so many chances and missed opportunities that were blown by nerves, lack of focus, or poor coaching. I'll totally agree that there is a lot to look forward to, but at some point we have to win against good teams in the present.... every year there are great young players developing and things to look forward to. It's been that way every year in Pelini's tenure. And yet every year we are back to this point, patting ourselves on the back because of all the great experience we're getting and all the young talent we have.

Think of Martinez in the beginning. Of Burkhead. I mean, think of Suh and Co. and all the things that could have been. And yet here we are. Still.

At some point I'd like to talk about being dominant force in college football in the present tense, rather than the future.

Announcers: "Nebraska sucks as a place to play. They're lucky to have the wins that they get with the players they manage to recruit somehow, despite everything."

These announcers have too many opinions. Wrong ones.

Finally, we got to 28! That's what we needed to go ahead at one point.....

here come the ugly points I am laughing

I'm too but hut to laugh...

Ok, now I'm laughing. This kind of loss in the past would have had me stewing for days. Now I can laugh before it's over.... what does that mean?

I have the exact same feelings ... I don't like it. I am supposed to be mad when NU loses. It is not natural to just shake off an NU loss as if nothing happened.

I think this speaks volumes for the current state of Nebraska football. And the silence of the cheering fans might be deafening before long....

que the why TA shouldn't start next week threads...

 

Not that I can blame them...

Eh, at this point, why not let him start? Do we have anything to lose? Not playing RKIII today pretty much seals that we're not playing for this season anymore.

here come the ugly points I am laughing

I'm too but hut to laugh...

Ok, now I'm laughing. This kind of loss in the past would have had me stewing for days. Now I can laugh before it's over.... what does that mean?

Hmmm. I hear the pitchfork-carrying crowd coming.