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Peyton Newell and Kevin Maurice are sufficient for a 3-4 NT. Otherwise, the Collin Miller's might be the closest thing to what would need to be brought in for the OLB.

Neither are the ideal size for a 3-4 NT. Valentine would have worked perfectly had he come back.

 

 

 

Did he explain what he sees as the advantage of a 3-4?

 

It's a difficult defensive set to consistently recruit for, which may be why he and a bunch of other coaches don't use it.

There are a lot of teams that still run a 3-4 as a base defense. I believe a majority of the SEC along with some PAC schools run a 3-4 as a base. I could see the advantages of running one but there are also disadvantages. You can get more speed on the field but you will also lose size. It is a pick your poison kind of deal.

Who runs it in those conferences? Alabama? Georgia may have. It's not coming. The NT and OLB positions are very difficult to recruit effectively for.

 

Alabama, Georgia, Kentucky, A&M, Tennessee and Florida have ran a 3-4 as their base in the last year or 2. Both Mississippi schools and LSU are looking to run a 3-4 this coming year. Notre Dame has ran a 3-4 since Kelly took over. In the Pac, Stanford, Oregon and Washington run a 3-4 along with Cal. Indiana, Maryland and Wisconsin have been running a 3-4 off and on.

 

As far as recruiting goes, it isn't any different then recruiting for a 4-3. You have one less DT/NG to recruit and you recruit smaller DEs that can also play OLB. We have recruited some damn good OLB recruits the last couple years. The only thing hurting is the DT/NG recruiting.

 

The thing is, all those LB recruits have to be hits, or else we would fall right back into a depth problem at that position again.

I almost had 2 coronaries on that play alone.

Imani Cross--yes, the guy impresses me. The guy apparently brings a great work ethic to the table, and clearly puts in his work in the weight room. He hits the o line before the hole? Why doesn't the o line perceived badness excuse come into play here. If you ask me, the guy hasn't been put even remotely close into a chance where he could succeed this year. Every time he comes in, it's painfully obvious what is about to happen. And the fumbling problem is far from solely his.

 

Afalava was touted non-stop as one of the showpieces for one of Bo's best recruiting classes to date, guaranteed to bring nearly instant results, and assuage all Bo Pelini angst. Now he's washed out in less than a year. Why does this keep happening? It may "happen everywhere", but everywhere seems to either handle it better or take necessary steps to make sure the next man up is actually ready and capable. I know how this story ends, losses like these tend to linger in Bo Pelini programs for multiple years.

 

Then there's Moss. IF he's off the team and IF it's because he couldn't stop from some pretty questionable behavior! then it cements that Bo is willing to overlook a few "character flaws for then greater good", which is cool, but it means we can end the fable that Bo Pelini is some paragon of doing things the right way above all else.

 

And young people at positions are the very definition of the "future of the program". I watched the defense too, I see some talent with some very glaring and alarming red flags all over the place.

Little Ameer can find holes, but big bad Imani can't? Come on man. Like I said, I admire what he has, but he isn't the great back that he has been expected to be, Imani has been in many positions this year to make plays. All 80+ carries of his weren't on short downs. Yes, he hits his OL first. This has NOTHING to do with "how bad the OL is", it has to do with his poor field vision, and inability to see the holes develop and hit them when they are there. He has no patience, something Ameer has. This is why Ameer is so successful. He is patient, he doesn't get the ball and run forward like Imani, he waits and works behind his OL, and when he sees a gap, he hits it hard.

 

Afalava's grades, if that is the reason, are solely his fault. Roach, Rose, Love, Bandares and Gerry got talked about WAY more than Afalava did. Bo and company never said that Afalava was one of the few people to come in and make an impact right away. If I remember it correctly, he said there are a group of young LBers who could come in and make an immediate impact. Afalava was one of them for a short time. It sucks to lose Afalava, but its not the end of the program and its quite dishonest to say it ruins it by any means. Your statement "I now how this story ends, losses like these tend to linger in Bo Pelini programs for multiple years.", is true to a certain point, but you also neglect that last year was Bo's last year with his first recruiting class, which we can all admit, lacked a lot of talent. There is depth at each and every position now, something we have never had in Bo's tenure.

 

Moss, its one incodent, Bo gave him a second chance. IF the kid showed himself again, then I am sure he will be gone. That somehow is the rumor, but the rumor being more favorable, is him entering a dorm that he wasn't allowed to be in. You kick a kid off the team for that? Come on. Suspend for a game or two, sure. "but it means we can end the fable that Bo Pelini is some paragon of doing things the right way above all else." So far, Bo is doing everything by the books. The kid hasn't been convicted of anything, so therefore nothing has been done on Bo's end. Would it even be fair to suspend the kid for something that happened half a year earlier? Put the kid on a short leash, and if he violates it in a big way, then do something about it.

From what I've heard, Moss may not be within Bo's control. He may be thrown completely out of school because of his transgressions.

Is this a joke? The link didnt work.

 

Hmm, no. Works fine for me. Does the page not load?

 

 

Am I supposed to be able to make out anything they are saying?

 

Headphones help, but it's pretty clear what Taylor and Sharpe are saying at points.

 

- Taylor: "I like him, but Ameer's a fumbler"

- Sharpe: "Pelini coached scared"

- Taylor: "If you keep asking for it, you're gonna get fired" "Self fulfilling prophecy"

- Davison's doing the TV show

- Pelini told Sharpe: "If I'm not the head coach anymore, why would I do the TV show?"

- Sharpe thinks something is "coming out tonight", while Taylor said something to the extent about how something won't happen until the bowl game.

- Sharpe: "Beck will be the interim" Taylor - "No, no no no....he can't handle that".

 

Well darn I was hoping this would be a chance for us to finally see Mike Nobler

 

That may be the best shirt/tie combination in the history of everything.

Is this a joke? The link didnt work.

Hmm, no. Works fine for me. Does the page not load?

Am I supposed to be able to make out anything they are saying?

Headphones help, but it's pretty clear what Taylor and Sharpe are saying at points.

- Taylor: "I like him, but Ameer's a fumbler"

- Sharpe: "Pelini coached scared"

- Taylor: "If you keep asking for it, you're gonna get fired" "Self fulfilling prophecy"

- Davison's doing the TV show

- Pelini told Sharpe: "If I'm not the head coach anymore, why would I do the TV show?"

- Sharpe thinks something is "coming out tonight", while Taylor said something to the extent about how something won't happen until the bowl game.

- Sharpe: "Beck will be the interim" Taylor - "No, no no no....he can't handle that".

There was a hot mic or two around Gary Sharpe and Steve Taylor tonight, and an INCREDIBLY candid discussion between the two was uploaded over RKIII's press conference on Huskers.com. Severe uploaded it to Soundcloud....give it a listen

https://soundcloud.com/mszone-1/greg-sharpe-and-steve-taylor

I have always been on the Richt bandwagon, if we have an opening and he's available.

Talked to my nephew about him (he plays at Butler, and has played against Keel twice this year) and isn't a fan. Says Keel plays soft; you can hit him in the mouth and he backs down.

 

 

how many scholarships does your nephew have??

 

 

Doesn't matter how many he had, he's the only one in this conversation to actually study, prepare and play against the kid.

 

 

okay well i don't really care about your nephew... I'm sure he is a great kid but i guess wisconsin, nebraska, arizona, missouri, penn state, USC and a whole bunch of others must be wrong

If you want to bury your head in the sand with his offer list, that's fine. I'm just telling you what someone with firsthand knowledge of playing against the kid has to say.

Talked to my nephew about him (he plays at Butler, and has played against Keel twice this year) and isn't a fan. Says Keel plays soft; you can hit him in the mouth and he backs down.

 

 

how many scholarships does your nephew have??

Doesn't matter how many he had, he's the only one in this conversation to actually study, prepare and play against the kid.

Talked to my nephew about him (he plays at Butler, and has played against Keel twice this year) and isn't a fan. Says Keel plays soft; you can hit him in the mouth and he backs down.

I'm surprised and disappointed that we haven't been after this kid. He's a juco transfer from Alabama, down at Butler (KS). My nephew plays with him, and says he's the best athlete he's played with (which isn't a light statement: he was an invite to the Team USA camp last year, and has camped with the likes of Bandaras). Big and fast and having watched him 10 or so games this year, he's got a nose for the ball, not unlike Lavonte David.

6'3, 215

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Tyler-Hayes-156124

http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/player-Tyler-Hayes-116782

Talked to my nephew about him; he's a fan. My nephew goes to Butler, and they played Dodge the first game of the year. He said that Clinkscales has a good motor and plays hard, and hopes that Nebraska gets him.

Talked to my nephew about him (my nephew plays down at Butler) and he had some pretty big praise for Clinkscales. Says he play hard, was tough to block, and is what they're O-line keyed on.

He has been a fan of Nebraska since Suh, he is looking to set up a visit within the next week or so.

Probably for MSU.

He's the #1 Juco DT, and #6 Juco overall. He has offers from Bama, Georgia, and Oregon. We offered him this week. My nephew played against him earlier this year; I'll chat with him and find out what he knows.

Gee.....I wonder if this QB carousel affects WR's at all? Derpa derp......

 

We can't blame Taylor! But f#*k these damn WR'S for dropping balls!

I don't know which is better for the point: your post, or your signature GIF.

Taylor apologists claiming we would have been no better off with RKIII or TA in there because of the crappy line play need to SHUT UP. That's the same line we've trotted out there the majority of the last 3 games, and it did just fine in them. With RKIII and TA under center.

 

Taylor, especially with multiple injuries, has the pocket presence of a lawn gnome. He's not going to go anywhere, and he's just going to give you that creepy stare when blitzed until he tucks and is thrown to the ground.

 

Also, I suppose if Bo believed Taylor when he asked him if he was good to go, and Taylor lied, that's one thing. If he looked good in practice all week, fine. I could see buying it. But reports are we had a crap week in practice, and if Enunwa spoke up about it to Beck, it should've been very obvious.

 

And failing to bench him when it was obvious the offense was a trainwreck Saturday falls under the category of "failing to adjust," a hallmark of Pelini teams. Why did we not do anything when the offense was clearly sputtering? It's not like your starter is set in stone. SO frustrated with this crap.

With the exception of missing our best lineman, you are correct.

Lots of stuff coming out of that presser. Some more good bits:

 

@mitchsherman

Bo: "You're going to see some new guys" against Northwestern this week. Mentions Rose, Banderas.

 

@mitchsherman

If Nebraska played today, Armstrong would start at QB.

 

@HailVarsity

Pelini says if #Huskers played today Armstrong would start, Kellogg filling in. Martinez suffered hip pointer, didn't practice Sun.

I hope Thad Randle starts. We need him badly.

 

I like it. Thad Randle for Heisman

Now to support some dumbass argument I am discounting the talent on this team??? I think that's the last thing I've ever done!!!!!!

I think you're taking it a little too far. Relax a bit, and let's have a rational discussion. Have a scotch and a cigar, if you need to.

Talked with a very prominent player for the Ducks. Helfrich does override some play calls just because he wants to show a certain look or get a specific player the ball. He also aids in building the game plan.

 

I also talked to him about Frost. Great coach, charismatic, absolute players coach. Overall the team likes Helf and Frost more than Chip.

 

Everything I have heard makes me think Frost will be a great head coach someday, but I don't know when that day is. I would be open to interviewing him, not because of his name, but because of who he is...the OC who understands, can teach and install Oregon's offense, while being charismatic and preaching physicality. He is a very solid recruiter ans seems to be more of a "leader/manager" than a strictly offensive or defensive coach.

 

That said, Petrino and Tressel are the top of my wishlist. And yes I know everyone hates Petrino.

 

Tressel is very interesting. The thing that bothers me more than his show-cause is the fact that he's 60. That could be 5 years here, if successful, it could be 15.

 

Hypothetically, what it could do is give Frost more time to season and possibly be the next hire when Tressel would leave.

 

Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner. Tressel gets us back on the map, winning, and instills a culture here. He sticks around for 5-6 years, wins "something", and then when he retires, our HC prospects are a lot more fruitful than they would be right now. It even gives us the possibility of hiring a proven Scott Frost, that way we don't have to experiment with him as first time HC.

Oh man, if that happens.....imagine the first Nebraska/OSU game.

It took us beating us for Richt to beat Bo with a defense full of guys who are playing in the NFL and a QB who had the game of his life. No way can you use the game last year as an argument for Richt.

 

The argument against Frost is he hasn't even been a Coordinator for more than a season.

 

I can absolutely use it.

- Who is responsible for the make up of each team? Who "bought the groceries"?

- That QB that had "the game of his life" is going to be a first rounder in April. He would've been the first QB taken last April.

- Richt made adjustments at halftime, something Bo has shown to be rarely able to do.

 

Also, Frost has been a coordinator for a year, yes. How many years has Smart been a coordinator without Saban pulling his strings?

 

I am not saying Richt isn't responsible. I am saying that Richt with as much talent as he has every single year should be able to beat a team that didn't have a single kid get taken in the first round by more than 10 points. He would have lost to us has Ameer held the ball. Purely stupid to honestly think Richt is an improvement.

 

Applying your logic, how long as Frost even been an offensive assistant without Chip Kelly or Helfrich there?

In terms of Frost vs. Smart, they have the same amount of HC experience, which is a gigantic sticking point with a lot of people. That's the point. Has Smart been an assistant longer than Frost? Yes, but that's partially due to Frost playing in the NFL. I think both are going to be great HCs, but they're at the same position in terms of their experience. That's the point I'm trying to make.

You're completely discounting the talent we have on this team. We do have talented players. We had talented players last year. It's a testament to the talent of last year's team that we played with (and were beating) Georgia for 2.5 quarters last year. It's not going to take much to get this team over the hump. But.... they did beat us by more than 10. 14, to be exact. This after Richt made adjustments and got his team in the proper position to beat us. As to you're point about Richt not being an improvement over Bo....he's got 2 conference championships, and 6 division titles in the SEC. Bo has 0 conference titles and 3 division titles, in 2 pretty watered-down conferences.

Like I said before, if Bo is shown the door, and we have an opportunity to get Richt, and we don't explore it, it would be a colossal mistake.

Talked with a very prominent player for the Ducks. Helfrich does override some play calls just because he wants to show a certain look or get a specific player the ball. He also aids in building the game plan.

 

I also talked to him about Frost. Great coach, charismatic, absolute players coach. Overall the team likes Helf and Frost more than Chip.

 

Everything I have heard makes me think Frost will be a great head coach someday, but I don't know when that day is. I would be open to interviewing him, not because of his name, but because of who he is...the OC who understands, can teach and install Oregon's offense, while being charismatic and preaching physicality. He is a very solid recruiter ans seems to be more of a "leader/manager" than a strictly offensive or defensive coach.

 

That said, Petrino and Tressel are the top of my wishlist. And yes I know everyone hates Petrino.

Tressel is very interesting. The thing that bothers me more than his show-cause is the fact that he's 60. That could be 5 years here, if successful, it could be 15.

Hypothetically, what it could do is give Frost more time to season and possibly be the next hire when Tressel would leave.

It took us beating us for Richt to beat Bo with a defense full of guys who are playing in the NFL and a QB who had the game of his life. No way can you use the game last year as an argument for Richt.

 

The argument against Frost is he hasn't even been a Coordinator for more than a season.

I can absolutely use it.

- Who is responsible for the make up of each team? Who "bought the groceries"?

- That QB that had "the game of his life" is going to be a first rounder in April. He would've been the first QB taken last April.

- Richt made adjustments at halftime, something Bo has shown to be rarely able to do.

Also, Frost has been a coordinator for a year, yes. How many years has Smart been a coordinator without Saban pulling his strings?