Vince R.

I’m not overly upset or screaming towards the sky so I’m fairly rational right now. He needs to be fired. Let the mass exodus happen now. This team is done. 

2 hours ago, huskerfan74 said:

Regardless of how we finish the season, Coaches Austin and Verduzco need to go and be replaced by competent coaches. They have had plenty of opportunities to show results on the field and they have failed miserably. You can give them 10 more years and they are not going to get better. We also need a dedicated special teams coach who knows what they are doing. Special teams can win you many games, especially close ones. What we have right now is ridiculous and unacceptable at any level of football including junior high level. 
 

As for Frost, if we finish strong and get to 6-6, he needs to be given another year contingent that he makes coaching changes as stated above. Otherwise, we throw him a farewell party and wish him all the best in his next career endeavor. Striving to be 0.500 is not why we got Frost. 

held and Austin need to go. There’s a rumor that verduzco is retiring. 

26 minutes ago, Hedley Lamarr said:

Imagine if Dwayne the rock Johnson was in your living room with a letter of intent. 

sometimes I do…

13 minutes ago, runningblind said:

Will he agree to that? Why hasn't he made moves there in 4 years if so?

 

I wonder if he feels they are so "close", that no changes need to be made to his long time coaches.

I think he knows that what he had then, he doesn't have now, and that's ample time to hope these two coaches get it worked out. If anything, the four years have crystalized some pretty obvious issues. It would not hurt to replace them based on their performances.

What we have seen from Piper and Benhart, or RB's going in the wrong direction, stumbling, and running into O-linemens' asses, it doesn't get any worse. 

Also, don't look now but O-line recruiting has been incredibly suspect. Our misses there have been woeful, and we are relying on a ton of Riley era guys. 

I'm just incredibly torn. I think what's transpired over the last few years is inexcusable, and that includes the PR blunders. A good coach comes to Nebraska and turns it around in year one or two. Nebraska has everything in place to do that. These dumb articles by Sip or the quotes by McMilan are so farce that once I see them, I just exit out. When you have top 25 recruiting classes annually, decent coaching should always yield decent to good results. 7-9 wins annually. 

Where I am torn is what Nebraska seems to be currently. In my opinion, they are tweaks away from being a ranked team annually, and a true competitor to win the division every year. As they stand currently, they have three good things to build off of going forward.

1. Rockstar D-coordinator and scheme. They will always have a good defense that doesn't lose them games. 

2. Talent in the cupboard. Nebraska doesn't have any holes and what's needed is certain positions to be developed properly (O-line and RB). 

3. A pretty damn good S&C staff. Nebraska looks so much better than they did even in Bo's last years. 

4.(Cheating here because I said 3). Really good TE play. 

The problem is the offense. It has always been the offense. Aside from Beckton, everyone is below average. It's a testament to the talent that they even have gaudy numbers nationally. To me, the O-line isn't even the biggest problem, although it is right there. What is happening at running back completely blows my mind. Every single year there is a problem identifying who is the best player at that position. Why was Marvin Scott the guy all year leading up to fall camp, and now he's nowhere to be found? Why was Gabe Ervin the starter when he looked the worst out of the five who played? Good, developed running backs can help a young O-line. Ryan Held has been saved by the moxie of players like Devine and Rahmir who seem to do well in spite of their coach. 

I have zero knowledge as to why guys like Piper and Benhart regressed so much. Although I do have a guess. The change in schemes or styles stunted their development a bit, which then hurt their confidence. The nail in the coffin was going against our front 7. Sometimes getting your a$$ handed to you for two camps makes you not want to play. Remember that clip of Tannor obliterating Piper in practice? I think he's been shook ever since. 

Scott is going to have to figure out not only how to get major coaching upgrades on those two positions, but he is going to have to find a much better way to see the truth in practice on that side of the ball. No more guess work. Do you want a team that doesn't have mental blunders week in and week out? Develop an Offense with a pulse in the first half so you don't have to be tentative, and thus a reactionary team. You can just win the game for executing well in the second quarter a few times... 

Last thing, if I could give him advice, I would tell him that he needs to take over the WR room or consider Beckton for it. The mismanagement of Betts and Brown are a travesty to this program. Treat them better and watch what happens. Those two could easily set the league on fire alone. 

4 minutes ago, TheSker said:

Money does talk.

 

But other schools have money too.

We have a lot more than most. 

5 hours ago, Hedley Lamarr said:

My biggest issue is that I cannot actually pinpoint the actual problem. Whatever the problem is it appears to be one that has lasted all of the time Frost has been here. Is it recruiting? Is it scheme? Is it development? Which is what makes all of this so frustrating. 

It's the offense. The defense is incredibly resilient and level headed. They couldn't be more polar opposites and the offense has the better talent. Until Scott settles down on a true direction for that side, and hires a RB coach that isn't a scatter brain, or an O-line coach with some fire, then it will continue. Scheme identity is very overrated. Nebraska needs a mentality identity. Scott also needs to take part in WR development. If they just got that fixed, a lot of the offensive woes would be solved. 

7 hours ago, Fru said:

Like everyone else, I’ve been marinating on the thought of firing/keeping Frost these past few weeks. Some days I say blow it up, some days I say keep him.

 

Ultimately, I keep coming back to the question, “Are the shortcomings of this staff so irredeemable, that blowing it up entirely is the only option?” At this moment, I can’t unequivocally say that it is. While the losses this season have been excruciatingly painful, they’re starkly different than the Callahan, Pelini and Riley losses where Neb was consistently getting outclassed. Blah blah blah moral victories. 

 

So I guess I’ve made up my mind that the only way to move forward with Frost is for staff adjustments. Michigan had an abysmal 2020, made several staff adjustments and it’s clearly paid dividends this year. It’s not crazy to think that a new OL coach and the addition of a full time Special Teams Coordinator would result in improved play and wins in 2022. At this point I’d rather try that and see what happens, than venture into the unknown, blow it up, start over, and watch another staff “install their system, get their guys, learn the B1G.”  

 

Hard to argue with you Fru.

7 hours ago, Jeremy said:

The real problem is if we hit the reset button again, it's just more years of crap while they try to get it together, and we have no idea who would even end up in Lincoln after then next coaching carousel. I doubt Chadwell even glances in our direction. It's sad to say, but keeping Frost is really our best option at this point.

Idk Jeremy, money talks man. Also, Trev is legit. Nebraska is in a much better position now than when Frost first got hired. 

On 10/28/2021 at 12:47 PM, admo said:

Why would any good coach (OL, RB, OC) leave their current team to go to Nebraska, if they think this staff could be out of a job 12 months from now? 

 

 

 

Possibly higher pay, better players to work with, and a really good name on your resume. Unless the coach comes from a top ten program. Nebraska isn’t a dumpster fire on the field. They’re a really good team that cannot close games out. A 10 to 15 percent improvement on offense would put Nebraska in the top 10-20 easily. Our imperfections wouldn’t be so magnified if we could just punch it in once more a game. This staff is polarizing because despite of what I just said, these results might just be apart of their dna. I do think they need serious developers at RB and O-line. There’s too much talent there. 

On 10/28/2021 at 10:06 AM, admo said:

Just going to point this out.

 

Huskers have 4 losses to teams with win % of (.931) - 27-2 combined record.
Huskers average margin of defeat to those teams is 5 points.

 

Illinois is a head scratcher.

 

In the next 4 games you expect the Huskers to grab 2-3 wins, for HCSF to keep his job?

The winning % of those opponents is (.714%) - 20-8 combined record. 

 

Two of those teams are ranked in the top 15.  One team just dropped out of top 25.  And one game is on the road at Wisconsin.

 

I know we want more wins and bowl games.  But this talk of firing HCSF?  Dang, some of yall are savages

I think the issue here is that it’s reasonable to expect Nebraska to be apart of that .931 if we were looking at another teams optics, by this point at least. We shouldn’t be looking at things as if we have the talent or history of a Purdue, Rutgers, Indiana, etc. At some point, you have to become the big bad wolf of the schedule with wins to show it. By year four, all we have proved is that we play great football for a quarter and a half. 

On 10/28/2021 at 8:21 AM, Caliborn72 said:

Always interesting to me to see how positive or negative people see the board as. I probably lean a little too optimistic, I stopped posting on 247 because that board is pretty overwhelmingly negative these days and I actually do feel a couple posts go as far as rooting for Frost to fail. I personally don’t think this board gets anywhere close to that and I think the poll shows you that. 
 

There’s a few people who go above and beyond with the positive spin and they all kinda blend together these days but overall, I think this board is pretty reasonable given how message boards usually are. Just my opinion though and I could be completely off base.

I signed up for 247 a few years back and I’m thinking of canceling. The tone of that board is really bad and there are so many fans there who have their heads in the sand. And every thread ends in a fight. 

Husker fans are no better than other fans. It's all an act, and all the program has left. 

This team is going to lose out. I don’t know how you recover from that. 

I became a huge fan of his after the first year. I thought he had the least to work with and he adjusted everything seamlessly. Whether that was finding the best positions for players or his recruiting prowess. His defense then was pretty good but the offense is what messed the numbers up because they would turn the ball over on their side of the field. The guy had a Nebraska tattoo artist cover up his Hawkeye tattoo on this left arm lol. I think he's a lifetime, elite D coordinator. Give him a 200k raise and pay up on the assistants also. They are doing a great job. 

4 hours ago, Hedley Lamarr said:

Coach Held has actively pursued G5 HC gigs since coming to Nebraska. No others on the staff have. 

He definitely did after the first two years and I never understood it. He hasn't proven much at all in D1 to suggest a jump like that. JUCO HC is not the same. 

3 hours ago, ZRod said:

It's the right spot though... Forward progress was right at the yellow line.

its not so much about whether he got it or not for me. I think it’s close and debatable, but it’s the principal of what he did that bothers me. It’s a judgement call and his was half a yard short which is reasonable because that’s where the ball was when he stepped out. The issue is what happens after his initial spot. You don’t move it twice like that. That looks fishy and egregious. He also didn’t have our view from that angle so to me it looks even more fishy. It didn’t decide the game or anything like that. I just think it looks horrible, and with a bad officiating outing, it’s more than reasonable to question intent. 

If you watch the muffed punt, phalen fell on top of it and had possession. The last clip before they went to break showed it. Not a review, nothing. 

3 hours ago, skers83 said:

I remember one of the announcers during the game mentioning the ref moving his foot but I dont think they went back and showed it again. That guy should never work another game.

 And it is close right, if he initially would’ve given him a first down, I wouldn’t have argued it. But it’s the fact that his judgement saw it was short by half a yard and he starts moving it up not once, but twice, and it’s on their sideline. Some people are arguing about this with me on Reddit lol but if you apply this same situation near the goal line, that’s the difference in someone scoring or not. And that’s fixing the game. Every play is reviewed so it’s not like the line judge can’t be helped out if they made a bad call. 

Is he sure he wants any more attention paid to the officiating?...

Many in the program have suggested that there is a possible fix and they have been sending tapes for years. Now as fans, we have something tangible for everyone to see. It was done on their sideline as well so no Nebraska coach or player could see. 

When damion Daniels got tackled, they threw that flag for holding. The lead ref over turned the flag and disguised it with a no foul for illegal formation. That’s my gut feeling. 

https://twitter.com/scottdugancca/status/1447030478066880516?s=21

I think this opens up a can of worms that will not look good, especially with how this game played out. 
 

1 minute ago, TheSker said:

I'm certain there are a few Bosas or Gregorys in the portal, right?

I am sure there is at least one who would be an upgrade. 

29 minutes ago, TheSker said:

Hutmacher was in response to your Damion Daniels type.

 

Every team in the country covets DEs.

We should raid the transfer portal and get a few. We have that kind of cache on defense now.