Vince R.

I didnt see D1 talent cause they got killed by a team who got only had one legitimate d1 player. i mean how hard is that to understand? im only saying all this because unlike any of you i see who these guys play and know what type of players play here. nebraska offered him and thats why he's getting looked at..its the same old story. when lazarri got offered, all of the sudden every coach felt like a genius and looked at him but it was too late. My first impression is that our coaches didnt do their homework and didnt look at the fine print. they saw hard hitter from california...didnt see that this kid plays in a terrible division, finally played a team in a higher division and got smoked and got thrown all over. i mean cmon if you knew what i knew, how could you not have doubt? and about their conference in california....its a joke. to even downplay it by saying its not the top is a joke. sorry to break your heart on that one. the fact is, there are plenty of safeties who are worthy of a scholarship and have fewer question marks and this is what we get. kinda disapointed but then again im not on the coaching staff. most of you guys sound like you are or know so much cause none of you guys are asking questions or seem to care cause whatever the coaching staff does is correct. in my opinion thats very closed minded and ignorant. i cant speak for any kid in any other state because i dont live their but this guy is in my backyard and that gives me the edge. but if this kid gets offered then why not thatDaniel Davie kid in nebraska? hes way faster than this kid and has better measurables. but wait cause nebraska's perception is that they dont have legitimate d1 talent throughout the state and you cannot project those kids..well in division 5 and lower in california, its the same way..the talent level drops quickly and with that offer to be thrown out so quickly told me they didnt evaluate every aspect.

 

you are not evaluating the correct aspects of recruiting.

 

YOU DO NOT RECRUIT MANY PLAYERS THAT ARE GOING TO WALK ONTO CAMPUS AND START ON DEFENSE DURING THEIR FIRST PRACTICE!

 

i understand what you are saying about him not looking like a D1 safety to YOU but do you honestly think that you know more about playing the safety position than does the staff and The University of Nebraska? imma answer that one for you: no you do not. typically players are not at optimal size coming out of high school. players also do not usually even have all of the fundamentals down coming out of high school.

 

you cannot expect a 5 star recruit from every one of our 20 or so recruits each year and to do so is as you say "ignorant".

 

if you want all 4 and 5 star players then by all means start following Texas, USC, or Florida because im sure they will do it for ya!!

 

 

Ok Bo Pelini? how do you evaluate talent. cause i guess getting thrown on by a better team with less d1 talent is not apart of the process? yes he's only one guy but besides the hit, he did nothing. top dogs show up every game. and thank you for putting words in my mouth cause everything you said that you implied coming out of my mouth didnt. as far as the size goes, i didnt say he had no size, i mean he's no corey cooper but hes not off by a lot. and next time when you mention three teams to compare nebraska with, dont choose the teams that have won 5 out of the last ten national championships, you only made my point, so actually thanks

 

me thinks you need to work on your reading comprehension skills before i will continue to chat with you. (ie. didnt compare nebraska to anyone. re-read.)

 

haha read your last sentence.."if you want all 4 and 5 star players then by all means start following Texas, USC, or Florida because im sure they will do it for ya!!" Using three other teams in your argument, automatically makes you comparing them. You're referring Nebraska does not get the 4-5 star players those teams do. which is COMPARING. all your argument did was was strengthen mine, you brought up the last 5 national champions besides LSU.

 

ok fine. however i am not comparing them the way that you imply.

 

i see absolutely no way that i strengthened your argument. in fact i would contend that your argument is severely flawed.

 

the following is a diagram of how you think:

 

 

i didnt even take the time to even read what you posted up there cause its sad. but are you serious? i mean really? you have no idea how you have strengthened my argument?? well. you implied that nebraska doesnt need to recruit like Texas,Florida, or USC by saying to go follow them if you want 4-5 stars. well it turns out those teams have been the most dominant in this decade because of all that great recruiting. So even though you didnt realize it, you did, big time. thanks.

 

 

Vince you really think the only reason they do so well is because they recruit 4-5 star players? Do you really think Kiffin is going to go into USC and dominate the way Caroll did? No way. Yeah recruiting really helps a lot. Get good talent and its easier to be good, but look at Callahan. He had great recruiting and yet couldn't coach. Look at Kiffin at Tennessee. Obviously he didn't wait around long enough to use his recruits, but Tennessee didn't have bad players and yet he couldn't coach them worth a darn. Rick Nieuhisel (spell?) at UCLA. He has always been a great recruiter, but can't coach... want proof look at what he did to Colorado and what he is about to do to UCLA. A couple great classes for him so far, but I am willing to be he coaches those kids into losing seasons and probably NCAA sanctions because of how he recruited them there. My point being you don't have to have 4-5 star recruits all the time to win. It really helps, but in the end the coaching is what gets the job done.

Ok i think you're missing the point again. We havent won anything. We could use more 4-5 star players and now is the time to get them because we are on their radar, im not saying it has to be all filled up with all americans. Callahan couldnt do anything with the players but he sure as hell set up bo and staff nicely, if you really look at it, Bill brought in a lot of studs. Just couldnt do much with them. and the fact that Bo can do somehting with them, makes it more exciting and speeds up the process if he can get high caliber prospects

I didnt see D1 talent cause they got killed by a team who got only had one legitimate d1 player. i mean how hard is that to understand? im only saying all this because unlike any of you i see who these guys play and know what type of players play here. nebraska offered him and thats why he's getting looked at..its the same old story. when lazarri got offered, all of the sudden every coach felt like a genius and looked at him but it was too late. My first impression is that our coaches didnt do their homework and didnt look at the fine print. they saw hard hitter from california...didnt see that this kid plays in a terrible division, finally played a team in a higher division and got smoked and got thrown all over. i mean cmon if you knew what i knew, how could you not have doubt? and about their conference in california....its a joke. to even downplay it by saying its not the top is a joke. sorry to break your heart on that one. the fact is, there are plenty of safeties who are worthy of a scholarship and have fewer question marks and this is what we get. kinda disapointed but then again im not on the coaching staff. most of you guys sound like you are or know so much cause none of you guys are asking questions or seem to care cause whatever the coaching staff does is correct. in my opinion thats very closed minded and ignorant. i cant speak for any kid in any other state because i dont live their but this guy is in my backyard and that gives me the edge. but if this kid gets offered then why not thatDaniel Davie kid in nebraska? hes way faster than this kid and has better measurables. but wait cause nebraska's perception is that they dont have legitimate d1 talent throughout the state and you cannot project those kids..well in division 5 and lower in california, its the same way..the talent level drops quickly and with that offer to be thrown out so quickly told me they didnt evaluate every aspect.

 

you are not evaluating the correct aspects of recruiting.

 

YOU DO NOT RECRUIT MANY PLAYERS THAT ARE GOING TO WALK ONTO CAMPUS AND START ON DEFENSE DURING THEIR FIRST PRACTICE!

 

i understand what you are saying about him not looking like a D1 safety to YOU but do you honestly think that you know more about playing the safety position than does the staff and The University of Nebraska? imma answer that one for you: no you do not. typically players are not at optimal size coming out of high school. players also do not usually even have all of the fundamentals down coming out of high school.

 

you cannot expect a 5 star recruit from every one of our 20 or so recruits each year and to do so is as you say "ignorant".

 

if you want all 4 and 5 star players then by all means start following Texas, USC, or Florida because im sure they will do it for ya!!

 

 

Ok Bo Pelini? how do you evaluate talent. cause i guess getting thrown on by a better team with less d1 talent is not apart of the process? yes he's only one guy but besides the hit, he did nothing. top dogs show up every game. and thank you for putting words in my mouth cause everything you said that you implied coming out of my mouth didnt. as far as the size goes, i didnt say he had no size, i mean he's no corey cooper but hes not off by a lot. and next time when you mention three teams to compare nebraska with, dont choose the teams that have won 5 out of the last ten national championships, you only made my point, so actually thanks

 

me thinks you need to work on your reading comprehension skills before i will continue to chat with you. (ie. didnt compare nebraska to anyone. re-read.)

 

haha read your last sentence.."if you want all 4 and 5 star players then by all means start following Texas, USC, or Florida because im sure they will do it for ya!!" Using three other teams in your argument, automatically makes you comparing them. You're referring Nebraska does not get the 4-5 star players those teams do. which is COMPARING. all your argument did was was strengthen mine, you brought up the last 5 national champions besides LSU.

 

ok fine. however i am not comparing them the way that you imply.

 

i see absolutely no way that i strengthened your argument. in fact i would contend that your argument is severely flawed.

 

the following is a diagram of how you think:

 

 

 

i didnt even take the time to even read what you posted up there cause its sad. but are you serious? i mean really? you have no idea how you have strengthened my argument?? well. you implied that nebraska doesnt need to recruit like Texas,Florida, or USC by saying to go follow them if you want 4-5 stars. well it turns out those teams have been the most dominant in this decade because of all that great recruiting. So even though you didnt realize it, you did, big time. thanks.

I didnt see D1 talent cause they got killed by a team who got only had one legitimate d1 player. i mean how hard is that to understand? im only saying all this because unlike any of you i see who these guys play and know what type of players play here. nebraska offered him and thats why he's getting looked at..its the same old story. when lazarri got offered, all of the sudden every coach felt like a genius and looked at him but it was too late. My first impression is that our coaches didnt do their homework and didnt look at the fine print. they saw hard hitter from california...didnt see that this kid plays in a terrible division, finally played a team in a higher division and got smoked and got thrown all over. i mean cmon if you knew what i knew, how could you not have doubt? and about their conference in california....its a joke. to even downplay it by saying its not the top is a joke. sorry to break your heart on that one. the fact is, there are plenty of safeties who are worthy of a scholarship and have fewer question marks and this is what we get. kinda disapointed but then again im not on the coaching staff. most of you guys sound like you are or know so much cause none of you guys are asking questions or seem to care cause whatever the coaching staff does is correct. in my opinion thats very closed minded and ignorant. i cant speak for any kid in any other state because i dont live their but this guy is in my backyard and that gives me the edge. but if this kid gets offered then why not thatDaniel Davie kid in nebraska? hes way faster than this kid and has better measurables. but wait cause nebraska's perception is that they dont have legitimate d1 talent throughout the state and you cannot project those kids..well in division 5 and lower in california, its the same way..the talent level drops quickly and with that offer to be thrown out so quickly told me they didnt evaluate every aspect.

 

you are not evaluating the correct aspects of recruiting.

 

YOU DO NOT RECRUIT MANY PLAYERS THAT ARE GOING TO WALK ONTO CAMPUS AND START ON DEFENSE DURING THEIR FIRST PRACTICE!

 

i understand what you are saying about him not looking like a D1 safety to YOU but do you honestly think that you know more about playing the safety position than does the staff and The University of Nebraska? imma answer that one for you: no you do not. typically players are not at optimal size coming out of high school. players also do not usually even have all of the fundamentals down coming out of high school.

 

you cannot expect a 5 star recruit from every one of our 20 or so recruits each year and to do so is as you say "ignorant".

 

if you want all 4 and 5 star players then by all means start following Texas, USC, or Florida because im sure they will do it for ya!!

 

 

Ok Bo Pelini? how do you evaluate talent. cause i guess getting thrown on by a better team with less d1 talent is not apart of the process? yes he's only one guy but besides the hit, he did nothing. top dogs show up every game. and thank you for putting words in my mouth cause everything you said that you implied coming out of my mouth didnt. as far as the size goes, i didnt say he had no size, i mean he's no corey cooper but hes not off by a lot. and next time when you mention three teams to compare nebraska with, dont choose the teams that have won 5 out of the last ten national championships, you only made my point, so actually thanks

 

me thinks you need to work on your reading comprehension skills before i will continue to chat with you. (ie. didnt compare nebraska to anyone. re-read.)

haha read your last sentence.."if you want all 4 and 5 star players then by all means start following Texas, USC, or Florida because im sure they will do it for ya!!" Using three other teams in your argument, automatically makes you comparing them. You're referring Nebraska does not get the 4-5 star players those teams do. which is COMPARING. all your argument did was was strengthen mine, you brought up the last 5 national champions besides LSU.

I didnt see D1 talent cause they got killed by a team who got only had one legitimate d1 player. i mean how hard is that to understand? im only saying all this because unlike any of you i see who these guys play and know what type of players play here. nebraska offered him and thats why he's getting looked at..its the same old story. when lazarri got offered, all of the sudden every coach felt like a genius and looked at him but it was too late. My first impression is that our coaches didnt do their homework and didnt look at the fine print. they saw hard hitter from california...didnt see that this kid plays in a terrible division, finally played a team in a higher division and got smoked and got thrown all over. i mean cmon if you knew what i knew, how could you not have doubt? and about their conference in california....its a joke. to even downplay it by saying its not the top is a joke. sorry to break your heart on that one. the fact is, there are plenty of safeties who are worthy of a scholarship and have fewer question marks and this is what we get. kinda disapointed but then again im not on the coaching staff. most of you guys sound like you are or know so much cause none of you guys are asking questions or seem to care cause whatever the coaching staff does is correct. in my opinion thats very closed minded and ignorant. i cant speak for any kid in any other state because i dont live their but this guy is in my backyard and that gives me the edge. but if this kid gets offered then why not thatDaniel Davie kid in nebraska? hes way faster than this kid and has better measurables. but wait cause nebraska's perception is that they dont have legitimate d1 talent throughout the state and you cannot project those kids..well in division 5 and lower in california, its the same way..the talent level drops quickly and with that offer to be thrown out so quickly told me they didnt evaluate every aspect.

 

you are not evaluating the correct aspects of recruiting.

 

YOU DO NOT RECRUIT MANY PLAYERS THAT ARE GOING TO WALK ONTO CAMPUS AND START ON DEFENSE DURING THEIR FIRST PRACTICE!

 

i understand what you are saying about him not looking like a D1 safety to YOU but do you honestly think that you know more about playing the safety position than does the staff and The University of Nebraska? imma answer that one for you: no you do not. typically players are not at optimal size coming out of high school. players also do not usually even have all of the fundamentals down coming out of high school.

 

you cannot expect a 5 star recruit from every one of our 20 or so recruits each year and to do so is as you say "ignorant".

 

if you want all 4 and 5 star players then by all means start following Texas, USC, or Florida because im sure they will do it for ya!!

 

 

Ok Bo Pelini? how do you evaluate talent. cause i guess getting thrown on by a better team with less d1 talent is not apart of the process? yes he's only one guy but besides the hit, he did nothing. top dogs show up every game. and thank you for putting words in my mouth cause everything you said that you implied coming out of my mouth didnt. as far as the size goes, i didnt say he had no size, i mean he's no corey cooper but hes not off by a lot. and next time when you mention three teams to compare nebraska with, dont choose the teams that have won 5 out of the last ten national championships, you only made my point, so actually thanks

 

me thinks you need to work on your reading comprehension skills before i will continue to chat with you. (ie. didnt compare nebraska to anyone. re-read.)

 

I live in Whittier, between La Habra High School and La Mirada High School. My kids have gone to La Habra High School and my younger ones will go to La Habra High School. La Habra is a powerhouse for their division and won the state championship for their division this past year and 3 of the last 4 years. So it is not surprising that they laid the wood to La Mirada last year or any other year. La Mirada is in a smaller division and they won their division but to say La Mirada/La Habra only a had one D1 player(la habra) in that game may not be accurate.

 

As of this morning, Luatua (OL) from La Mirada got an offer from Bama. He is going D1, if not Bama, someone else will sign him. Max Gama from La Mirada has signed to go to Wash St. Aaryn Bouzous is signed on with NU. So from last years team La Mirada has 3 D1 players and we are 3.5 months away from the start of the 2010 season. They may have 1 or 2 players get scollies, so that would be/is impressive for a small school to send that many kids to D1 schools.

 

Vince, I agree with some of your points and it looks like you do go to a lot of the games and see them live but so far La Mirada is sending 3 of those juniors to D1 schools, that is impressive. Some of the top talent goes to the private schools around this area. Bishop Amat(Hacienda Heights), Servite(Anaheim) but those schools cost money and not all kids can go there based on the financial status of the family. So La Habra and La Mirada still have some talented kids but not a lot of 4 and 5 star type talent.

 

My son plays on a travel soccer team and two of his teammates are going to school at Bishop Amat and Servite. Those are based on a combination of being a good athlete and having the financial ability to send each kid to private catholic school. If Aaryn was playing for Servite or Bishop Amat he may get more attention and play against higher competition but he would still be from La Mirada.

 

So I think we do have talented kids in this area and I am excited one is going to Nebraska!!!

i was reffering to la habra only having one legitimate d1 kid in Quezada, other than that nobody was too impressive alone.

Just watching video and doing some research, I'm not going to say that I don't have concerns about this kid. That being said, I would guess that whatever division he plays in is more competitive than Nebraska class C-1. Crick didn't dominate each and every game and he is doing pretty well for himself in big-boy college football. From friends in the Sutton area, they say that Schoff is a bit soft and he will likely be the highest rated 2012 Nebraska kid. Andrew Rodriguez was called lazy and he was highly rated and heavily recruited (and held his own against the best players in the country in the Army all-American game).

 

As for offers, sometimes kids just fly under the radar. Zach Domicone had no big offers much later in the recruiting season than this. Nebraska offered, then Oklahoma, and he ended up at Ohio State. I don't think Sam Acho had a major offer until the end of the summer. Nebraska offered, then USC, and he is making quite the name for himself as a Longhorn.

 

As for Davie, I hope he gets an offer. I'm sure if Bouzos was from Nebraska, there would be a lot of gnashing of teeth by some of the local skeptics. Maybe it is just human nature to question the kids that you know best.

 

I also think Aaryn is being recruited specifically to play the peso, and not a traditional safety position. His 4.5 was actually electronically timed (I think it was a 4.53 or 4.57). People get tired of hearing "trust the coaches", but they see things in kids that those of us with untrained eyes do not. Only time will tell.

this is the kind of response i was looking for, reasonable, understanding, and logical. thank you

Vince, I have a question for you and I hope you answer it.

 

 

Why can't NU be the first team to offer a kid and why can't if be okay for them to be the first to offer?

 

Dont you think it is safe to assume that the staff looked at more then one 5 minute film and that they know where he plays and who he plays and that they talked to his coaches about him?

 

i believe Wyoming offered first but i could be wrong. Its not about them being the first, its about them being the first and only. if this kid was totally legit, dont you think one of the many d1 programs in CA wouldve offered him right away? Isnt it safe to say that any coach is gonna hype his kid up and never downplay his conference when asked? Isnt safe to say that any coach is gonna use any advantage possible like using the california card? Isnt it safe to say that a low division player has many question marks? i mean, at least i have some knowledge with my answers, everyone is giving me the safe card by saying trust the staff. besides that what else is out there? yeah he hits hard but he hits kids who will never sniff a d1 offer. i mean you heard unsportsmanlike conduct and even they saw how small those kids are. its comparable to freshman football in long beach and even then those freshman are already getting d1 offers. So what else needs to be said?

 

I dont think that CA schools would have offered him right away, why would they? NU doesnt have to offer Nebraska kids right away because you always have that hometown pull.

 

No, it is not safe to say that any/most high school coaches will hype up their kid and downplay their conferences "badness". I have been on 3 different staffs and helped send a few kids to D1 schools and its not really something that is done. High school coaches generally do not want to set up their kids for failure so most wont lie to convince a college coach anything.

 

I dont know what the california card is so I cant answer that.

 

Yeah, its safe to say that a lower division kid could have question marks. I think thats safe to say about any and all players.

 

Also, most high school guys are not playing vs and hitting other D1 guys while in high school. I mean there are about 2,500 scholarships for D1 players per year and well, there are about 40,000 public and private high schools in the US, you got to think that if each one has a varsity football team and that averages about 40 players per team, well do the math. Most high school players never play vs another D1 guy. I played in the largest class in IL, my school had close to 3000 kids, the schools we played all had 3000 or more and I played against zero future D1 guys that I know of and I played with three guys that went on to play D1 but at non BCS schools.

well if nebraska thinks hes great dont you think some of the other schools in california would too? thats like saying a player like niles paul gets offered by nebraska a month before signing day. if the kid is good, then the offer is on the table, simple to me. and the california card means the california excuse and perception. meaning well if hes from california then he has to be good. and i understand youre point 100 percent and agree. i just want to lay out all the facts about this kid. He's N, thats fine. lets see what the staff can do with him

I didnt see D1 talent cause they got killed by a team who got only had one legitimate d1 player. i mean how hard is that to understand? im only saying all this because unlike any of you i see who these guys play and know what type of players play here. nebraska offered him and thats why he's getting looked at..its the same old story. when lazarri got offered, all of the sudden every coach felt like a genius and looked at him but it was too late. My first impression is that our coaches didnt do their homework and didnt look at the fine print. they saw hard hitter from california...didnt see that this kid plays in a terrible division, finally played a team in a higher division and got smoked and got thrown all over. i mean cmon if you knew what i knew, how could you not have doubt? and about their conference in california....its a joke. to even downplay it by saying its not the top is a joke. sorry to break your heart on that one. the fact is, there are plenty of safeties who are worthy of a scholarship and have fewer question marks and this is what we get. kinda disapointed but then again im not on the coaching staff. most of you guys sound like you are or know so much cause none of you guys are asking questions or seem to care cause whatever the coaching staff does is correct. in my opinion thats very closed minded and ignorant. i cant speak for any kid in any other state because i dont live their but this guy is in my backyard and that gives me the edge. but if this kid gets offered then why not thatDaniel Davie kid in nebraska? hes way faster than this kid and has better measurables. but wait cause nebraska's perception is that they dont have legitimate d1 talent throughout the state and you cannot project those kids..well in division 5 and lower in california, its the same way..the talent level drops quickly and with that offer to be thrown out so quickly told me they didnt evaluate every aspect.

 

you are not evaluating the correct aspects of recruiting.

 

YOU DO NOT RECRUIT MANY PLAYERS THAT ARE GOING TO WALK ONTO CAMPUS AND START ON DEFENSE DURING THEIR FIRST PRACTICE!

 

i understand what you are saying about him not looking like a D1 safety to YOU but do you honestly think that you know more about playing the safety position than does the staff and The University of Nebraska? imma answer that one for you: no you do not. typically players are not at optimal size coming out of high school. players also do not usually even have all of the fundamentals down coming out of high school.

 

you cannot expect a 5 star recruit from every one of our 20 or so recruits each year and to do so is as you say "ignorant".

 

if you want all 4 and 5 star players then by all means start following Texas, USC, or Florida because im sure they will do it for ya!!

Ok Bo Pelini? how do you evaluate talent. cause i guess getting thrown on by a better team with less d1 talent is not apart of the process? yes he's only one guy but besides the hit, he did nothing. top dogs show up every game. and thank you for putting words in my mouth cause everything you said that you implied coming out of my mouth didnt. as far as the size goes, i didnt say he had no size, i mean he's no corey cooper but hes not off by a lot. and next time when you mention three teams to compare nebraska with, dont choose the teams that have won 5 out of the last ten national championships, you only made my point, so actually thanks

and i gotta be honest, i think this is a situation where nebraska is his best offer and he commits. but if ucla or any local teams come callin, then i think we're in for a battle cause california kids dont have allegiances to anyone.

Vince, I have a question for you and I hope you answer it.

 

 

Why can't NU be the first team to offer a kid and why can't if be okay for them to be the first to offer?

 

Dont you think it is safe to assume that the staff looked at more then one 5 minute film and that they know where he plays and who he plays and that they talked to his coaches about him?

i believe Wyoming offered first but i could be wrong. Its not about them being the first, its about them being the first and only. if this kid was totally legit, dont you think one of the many d1 programs in CA wouldve offered him right away? Isnt it safe to say that any coach is gonna hype his kid up and never downplay his conference when asked? Isnt safe to say that any coach is gonna use any advantage possible like using the california card? Isnt it safe to say that a low division player has many question marks? i mean, at least i have some knowledge with my answers, everyone is giving me the safe card by saying trust the staff. besides that what else is out there? yeah he hits hard but he hits kids who will never sniff a d1 offer. i mean you heard unsportsmanlike conduct and even they saw how small those kids are. its comparable to freshman football in long beach and even then those freshman are already getting d1 offers. So what else needs to be said?

I didnt see D1 talent cause they got killed by a team who got only had one legitimate d1 player. i mean how hard is that to understand? im only saying all this because unlike any of you i see who these guys play and know what type of players play here. nebraska offered him and thats why he's getting looked at..its the same old story. when lazarri got offered, all of the sudden every coach felt like a genius and looked at him but it was too late. My first impression is that our coaches didnt do their homework and didnt look at the fine print. they saw hard hitter from california...didnt see that this kid plays in a terrible division, finally played a team in a higher division and got smoked and got thrown all over. i mean cmon if you knew what i knew, how could you not have doubt? and about their conference in california....its a joke. to even downplay it by saying its not the top is a joke. sorry to break your heart on that one. the fact is, there are plenty of safeties who are worthy of a scholarship and have fewer question marks and this is what we get. kinda disapointed but then again im not on the coaching staff. most of you guys sound like you are or know so much cause none of you guys are asking questions or seem to care cause whatever the coaching staff does is correct. in my opinion thats very closed minded and ignorant. i cant speak for any kid in any other state because i dont live their but this guy is in my backyard and that gives me the edge. but if this kid gets offered then why not thatDaniel Davie kid in nebraska? hes way faster than this kid and has better measurables. but wait cause nebraska's perception is that they dont have legitimate d1 talent throughout the state and you cannot project those kids..well in division 5 and lower in california, its the same way..the talent level drops quickly and with that offer to be thrown out so quickly told me they didnt evaluate every aspect.

Im going to end my rant with one more thing. if you guys dont want to take what i say into perspective then fine. i went on here to enlighten those who arent familiar with this area to let them know what kind of competition goes on here. yes im sure it all came off as me not liking this kid and thats not the case. hes apart of our class, im incredibly intrigued to see him play for us and its cool that someone from my neighborhood is going to Nebraska but i have to lay out all the facts. i know people's perceptions on california, i read it all the time and how its sooo rich with talent and thats not always the case, its not like every school has great players.not true at all. if all this makes me the bad guy of the blog, so be it, i just like saying whats real.

I didnt see D1 talent cause they got killed by a team who got only had one legitimate d1 player. i mean how hard is that to understand? im only saying all this because unlike any of you i see who these guys play and know what type of players play here. nebraska offered him and thats why he's getting looked at..its the same old story. when lazarri got offered, all of the sudden every coach felt like a genius and looked at him but it was too late. My first impression is that our coaches didnt do their homework and didnt look at the fine print. they saw hard hitter from california...didnt see that this kid plays in a terrible division, finally played a team in a higher division and got smoked and got thrown all over. i mean cmon if you knew what i knew, how could you not have doubt? and about their conference in california....its a joke. to even downplay it by saying its not the top is a joke. sorry to break your heart on that one. the fact is, there are plenty of safeties who are worthy of a scholarship and have fewer question marks and this is what we get. kinda disapointed but then again im not on the coaching staff. most of you guys sound like you are or know so much cause none of you guys are asking questions or seem to care cause whatever the coaching staff does is correct. in my opinion thats very closed minded and ignorant. i cant speak for any kid in any other state because i dont live their but this guy is in my backyard and that gives me the edge. but if this kid gets offered then why not thatDaniel Davie kid in nebraska? hes way faster than this kid and has better measurables. but wait cause nebraska's perception is that they dont have legitimate d1 talent throughout the state and you cannot project those kids..well in division 5 and lower in california, its the same way..the talent level drops quickly and with that offer to be thrown out so quickly told me they didnt evaluate every aspect.

but once again, and i hate to be negative on this board but this is another kid to really keep an eye on. i saw him up front and those two safeties got torched. He loves to hit but he aint hitting no 6ft 2in 200lbs Wr's either. im talking 5 ft 9in 165lb wrs..his level of competition is terrible and the players couldnt play against texas's jv teams. but im gonna try and trust our staff on this one

 

i can see him being a special teams player. and then maybe like an Austin Cassidy type player. I was gonna say Hagg but hes not that athletic but being the peso backer would look like a decent fit. his speed is good, height is ok, and weight is low but thats not a problem. not bad

 

i dont see how you think his weight is low, thats a pretty good weight for a kid coming out of his jr year of HS.

 

on a side note, HOW IN THE WORLD DID WE PULL A KID OUT OF PAC10 COUNTRY?!?!?! WE DONT PLAY IN THE PAC 10!!! BANANAS!!!

well considering the stature of the top programs safeties who are 200lbs already. and they pulled him out of pac10 country cause the pac10 doesnt want him, at least yet

but once again, and i hate to be negative on this board but this is another kid to really keep an eye on. i saw him up front and those two safeties got torched. He loves to hit but he aint hitting no 6ft 2in 200lbs Wr's either. im talking 5 ft 9in 165lb wrs..his level of competition is terrible and the players couldnt play against texas's jv teams. but im gonna try and trust our staff on this one

i can see him being a special teams player. and then maybe like an Austin Cassidy type player. I was gonna say Hagg but hes not that athletic but being the peso backer would look like a decent fit. his speed is good, height is ok, and weight is low but thats not a problem. not bad

I saw him against La Habra High School and he absolutely took the WR's head off. only negative. his secondary got blown out 54-13. besides the hit, you couldnt tell there was D1 prospects playing.

of course its not up to us, I mean they know what they're doing for the most part obviously. My point on this was not to say this kid shouldnt deserve anything and that there is no way he will be great. but i saw all these suh comparisons and well thats foolish. my point was to ease everyone off this kid and understand the full situation cause from my perspective just by lookin at it, it looks like a bad call. now i dont know the kid and it would be so sick if he was that good. then bring him on board and lets get some more.but someone needed to calm down those comments about how good he looks cause he plays nobody and when it comes to evaluation time, that will be his biggest knock and rightfully so, its apart of the process

 

It's cool. The Suh comparison was made with the disclaimer that he looked like a HS (High School) version of Suh in those films. It didn't mean that I'm expecting him to be like or that he'll ever be like Suh. It was the way he was playing on film that drew such a comparison. The use of his hands when disengaging blockers, the numerous plays of him running a player down after he got past the line of scrimmage, along with a couple of pass break-up plays here and there. It was very Suh-like.

 

His level of competition was irrelevant at first glance. That wasn't my intention when I made that comparison. I think you took the Suh comparison too literally, but it's all good. I was just curious why you were so adamant in downplaying the kids film in multiple posts. We've all said our piece and I'm okay with leaving it at that.

its obvious that he has suh movements and techniques and i didnt take it too literal. i knew but i had to ease the kool aid cause it was a big question mark just based off what i know. hope this kid is the diamond in the rough for us

of course its not up to us, I mean they know what they're doing for the most part obviously. My point on this was not to say this kid shouldnt deserve anything and that there is no way he will be great. but i saw all these suh comparisons and well thats foolish. my point was to ease everyone off this kid and understand the full situation cause from my perspective just by lookin at it, it looks like a bad call. now i dont know the kid and it would be so sick if he was that good. then bring him on board and lets get some more.but someone needed to calm down those comments about how good he looks cause he plays nobody and when it comes to evaluation time, that will be his biggest knock and rightfully so, its apart of the process

last minute but didnt know who he was or had their eye on him?? really? cmon the guy was impressive in the state. and as far as the lower level competition comment. oh yeah. ask anyone in the area. they will laugh and say you mean powder puff football? its that bad guys and thats why my perception is hard to break.

 

It was by circumstance that they decided to offer him a scholarship at the last minute because it depended on whether other possible recruits would be signing with us or not, hence staying within the scholarship limit. That whole scenario went down to the wire just before National Letter of Intent Day. But the weeks leading up to LOI day, the coaches let it be known that whether he walked on or they offered him a scholly in the end, that they'd be using him as an ATH and not a QB.

And thats all fine, but im not talking about his situation when it comes to schollie, walk on or any of that.. my point being is that in that state, he was the top qb, or at least one of them. He was impressive in his tape just like the Worthy kid. But turns out the position he looked good playing wont be the one he'll be playing at nebraska. because they dont feel he's good enough. Cause if they did thats what he would be. for sure QB. That same outlook is mine on Worthy, I cant project a kid who doesnt play anyone. If the kid had to deal with 6ft3in 260 lbs or more lineman with talent and great coaching like in the upper divisions in Cali, then im 100% N. but since he is not, i cannot fully fall under the trap that he is this great prospect.

last minute but didnt know who he was or had their eye on him?? really? cmon the guy was impressive in the state. and as far as the lower level competition comment. oh yeah. ask anyone in the area. they will laugh and say you mean powder puff football? its that bad guys and thats why my perception is hard to break.

like i said before, its not complete doubt, the situation could be a freak one and he somehow got recruited and convinced to go to Whittier Christian. Its that bad...especially when servite is down the road. The possibility of this being a good player looking great cause of competition is decent. My point being fools gold. I hope he's great. i hope our staff is right. all im saying if there is one that i could look at and say wait a minute then it would be this one. along with Aaron at La Mirada. i think anyone in the country would fall in love with those numbers and give him a look so im not suprised about USC. thats fine. but look ive seen the top dogs in cali play. Lakewood, Poly, mater dei, coronoa centenniel, mission viejo, OLU, De La Salle, all of them. They've had some special players and those numbers are freakish and dont happen in their divisions. look at his tape, hes absolutely mad handling every single lineman, and making them look like rag dolls. Obviously hes a good player, but i think the whole california perception might have people all excited when they dont know about the situation. and the whole coaches being right on everything, cmon give me a break you're gonna tell me that they're right 100%? most of the time sure, but this one has the potential to be the one.

remember bronson marsh was a very good qb in the state of nebraska but now they dont even want him to play qb and he has good enough measurables.

ok off the top of my head im not sure what the lowest division is but they're close. Look you guys would be skeptical in the state of nebraska and so would everyone else if a d lineman played in one of the lowest divisions and dominated. I love his measurables, and speed. no question about it. Nike camps are great but i know a lot of kids who couldnt play at san diego st and went to those camps so im not too sold on that one. You would have to throw this kid in the elite all star game in california to prove to me he is "Worthy" of this attention.

Look its not that i want to hate and bash on this kid, i want him to be great and hope nothing but the best for him. i hate being proved wrong but i would love for this staff and this kid to do that. I'm rooting for him now. But id probably take the other guys on the board first

Look i understand that this kid could just put me and my opinion to shame. If he's the next all american than i would be happy for the guy and shame on me. but I know what im talking about when i say i have some doubt, at least a bit. I wouldnt expect you guys to understand because you dont live where i live and dont understand the situation in this area when it comes to competition. Now i dont know about his camps. if hes tearing them up then maybe i should look into that. Over here, you cannot put D1 prospect and Whittier Christian Football in the same sentence without having doubt, let alone Nebraska offering him. Just like that Aaron B. kid from La Mirada. which is also two min away. the kid plays in division 10 which is not even competitive to anyone past div 6. Do i have faith in the staff yes? but with this one, im not so sure.

One more thing to that, everyone gets this idea that california is this gold mine for talent when in actuality its slighlty overrated. You'll get your 3 top qbs but then its starts to shrink.

the rich areas are LA/Long beach, Riverside/ desert area, and Corona region. SD county is inconsistent and up north has its years but still not elite. OC is a qb area. with some talent sprinkled here and there, northern oc..mediocre at best and is home to some of the lower divisions.

those are great stats but put him against, servite, mater dei, POLY, Lakewood, etc then talk to me, cause those numbers arent happening

Id hope you're right. its just hard falling in love with a prospect that has a lot of question marks. obviously every hs player does but in this case, its hard to project him. Like i said the good thing is, he was obviously recruited. Another thing to add. Servite is about ten min away from me and they are the top dog out of the private schools. suprised he didnt go there especially if he knew he was D1 good.

Would it matter where in LH? its a small northern OC city. I had no idea this kid attended camps, i was basing it off his level of competition. My Point being that OC isnt known for producing elite talent besides qbs and Whittier Christian is a terrible football school. I cant remember anyone coming out of there. So thats where this is stemming from. The kid looks great on film but he's going against offensive lineman who are 6ft and 245 lbs. everyone in that division or even that area is incredibly undersized. id' have to see him up close.

Not trying to come off rude, but im trying to stress how shocking it is to hear anyone from that school getting offered by an elite program, it blows my mind lol

being a so cal native and have seen a lot of lakewood games, ill tell you that a lot of the big schools in that area are really taking notice of nebraska. i wore my blackshirts tee to the long beach poly vs lakewood game and everyone was givin me props for it. It also helped that lazarri middelton was there as well.

and when i said lazarri was there meaning at the game.

the only good thing about his school is that its private so they couldve recruited a stud to come there but it hard to believe a kid who is that good coming to Whittier Christian, especially when the school 500 yards down the street is the powerhouse of the city