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1 hour ago, Undone said:

 

Heh, and Brent Venables as your DC...

Anyone can steal signs  A great QB will make them pay for it. 

7 minutes ago, FrantzHardySwag said:

Clemson Football Recruiting

2009: 36th

2010: 27th

2011: 10th

2012: 20th

2013: 15th

2014 16th

2015 ----First CFB Playoff appearance 

 

Average Rank leading up to CFB playoff was 21st for the 6 classes prior and 18th for the 5 classes prior. Nebraska recruiting ranking average under Frost = 20th. Show you can compete for conference titles with classes in the 20-25 range, and the top 10 classes will come. 

Now go find a Deshaun Watson level player at QB and transform your program. Sounds easy enough.

22 minutes ago, Dr. Strangelove said:

They also play with by far the best players in the conference. It's not even close. 

 

Alabama and Ohio State play with an entirely different tier of talent and its been that way for most of the last decade.

True but Michigan has all the same resources and tradition, if not more in some areas, but has made some really bad hires when it comes to their football program. They keep going back to their Michigan Man mantra even though that thought process has yielded little sucess, or at least not as much as they think they should be having. 

15 minutes ago, ZRod said:

Without googling I can't remember, but I think the Tattoo scandal took down the AD too, right? Which means at an executive level tOSU has smart decision makers in place who made the right decision to help them recover.

 

In my experience defects in a company or program that are systemic issues almost always come from the top. s#!t rolls down hill, and when you don't have good decision makers at the top you'll never fix your problems.

Andy Geiger was the AD that fired Cooper and hired Tressel (which many though was out of left field at the time). Gene Smith was the one that navigated through the tattoo scandal, hired Meyer, and Day. Many thought OSU should have conducted more of a search before hiring Day, but I doubt you have any OSU fan saying that now. 

Again, some of this is having the right leadership but most of it is luck. 

1 hour ago, ZRod said:

But then there's teams like Ohio State in the other division who have had 3 head coaches and 1 interim since we joined. Contrasted with Michigan and Michigan State who each had 2 (Hoke's first season was our inaugural as well), or Penn State with 4.

 

Only one of those teams has been consistently good and they've had as much turnover as us.

On one hand OSU has been extremely lucky, but on the other they have a really well run athletic department. 

13 minutes ago, nic said:

More thoughts on Cuba from the author and creator of the 1619 project.

 

"The most equal multi-racial country in our hemisphere, it would be Cuba," Hannah-Jones said, as reported by the publication. "Cuba has the least inequality between Black and white people anyplace really in the hemisphere. I mean, the Caribbean, most of the Caribbean it's hard to count because the White population in a lot of those countries is very, very small. A lot of those countries are run by Black folks. But in places that are truly at least biracial countries, Cuba actually has the least inequality. And that's largely due to socialism—which I'm sure no one wants to hear."

It is hard to have inequality between white and black when everyone is poor. Saying that, I am sure some of that has to do with US/Cuba relations. 

50 minutes ago, funhusker said:

Is there a good reason white people should distrust?  Jews distrust?  Christians distrust?  Hispanics distrust?  Women distrust?  Straight or gay people distrust?

 

Because it’s the same virus and same vaccine…

Really? Like the US government hasn't experimented on black populations before? I am not saying we shouldn't all be vaccinated, but I understand why certain populations, given past history, do not trust the government when it comes to this stuff. 

Example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Syphilis_Study

1 hour ago, funhusker said:

I’ll call anyone who is refusing the vaccine because they believe it is part of a government conspiracy a moron.  I don’t care what race, sex, creed, or political affiliation they are.

I think there is good reason why some individuals within the black community have no trust in the government when it comes to this issue. 

6 hours ago, DevoHusker said:

 

 

I really don't know what the answer is in Haiti but I hope the president doesn't send US troops. It will not end well and for good reason there is little trust of US government in Haiti. It is being said that some of the people arrested were at some point in time DEA informants. Not that I trust the Haitian police, but I would rather assist them with the investigation than send in troops. 

33 minutes ago, DevoHusker said:

 

 

It is interesting they brought up the part about speaking Spanish, probably brought that up for many reasons. I am sure there will be rumors of the US being involved in this or some other mercenaries. 

Tuimoloau and Sawyer should make for a formable dline in a year or two.

2 minutes ago, Nebraska55fan said:

 

Nope - missed the point entirely. 

 

Showing how players can be compensated in general. The net is- donor money can now be funneled directly to players. This is just the façade being used to facilitate this happening. 

 

My point is NU has $155 million in donor money going for a facility that may be better used for player salaries. Donors goal is improve the program. Plan A- they dontate money to the University for Facility improvements. Plan B they throw a bunch of money at players through NIL-

 

Question- which will help the donor meet his goal of improving the program the fastest? Most likely player salaries- which I guess we can now call NIL- endorsements. Potato potatoe  

Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I missed your point. 

20 minutes ago, Nebraska55fan said:

 

if the goal of the booster is to improve the program- maybe it is. They could spend 1.5 million in a facilities upgrade donation. OR they could spend 1.5 million to get a bunch of pretty good walk ons who have been great contributors on scholarship at places like North Dakota State, SDSU etc. 

 

If their GOAL is to improve the program- this is one avenue to do it. Is a good walk on swayed more by a beautiful facility or 20K in his pocket/ his parents not having to pay for his college. A very simple way for the donor to meet his goal- improving the athletic program- could care less about the advertising return. Just like he didnt care about the juice it scored him for making the facilities upgrade donation. 

 

Its inevitable. Just think about it, the $155,000,000 facilities upgrade. That could have been $7,000,000 in payroll for over 20 years. Which would go something like $20K for every walk on and $70K for every scholarship player annually. 

Keep reaching. It is 2021, Alabama is showing a 5 star how much they can make through NIL and a Nebraska fan wants to relive the glory days by paying a walk-on pocket change. 

I can only imagine the return on investment for paying 75 walk-ons with 10 social media followers to promote something. 

Hopefully he sticks with OSU because it is always fun pulling guys out of Texas. 

59 minutes ago, suh_fan93 said:

 

It would be great to see him in Columbus along with Sawyer for 3 years but for some reason I see him staying out west. 

31 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

That's a good point. So it's not just the platforms, and it's not just the users. 

 

In the end, people need to use their critical thinking skills and check with multiple sources before basing a stance off something. 

I don't always agree with Mark Cuban but he had some interesting takes on Facebook in this podcast.

https://www.theverge.com/21557432/mark-cuban-interview-nilay-patel-decoder-podcast

6 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

This is like blaming the street for traffic accidents. Social media is a benign construct. The idiot humans who misuse it are the problem. 

 

That would be the case if their wasn't algorithms working in the background amplifying certain voices over others. It isn't just the end users that are the problem. 

Just now, nic said:

Well, They get to play Navy which takes care of a traditional rival. How about the PAC12? This takes care of the USC and Stanford games, and is probably easier than the ACC....or AAC. 

I would guess they rather have the national champion crowed before the bowl season starts using the polls like the good ole' days. 

1 minute ago, nic said:

Correct. But Hilltop made me think of another approach. How often would ND win the ACC? Maybe they should join a lesser conference (AAC) that they can win all the time. They could have a loaded out of conference slate to help the strength of schedule. Play USC, a B1G and ACC team every year. The world is their oyster. 

I don't see an arrogant school like ND lowering themselves to join a conference like the ACC let alone the AAC. 

8 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

I'm not arguing this, in fact I'm arguing the opposite: that the old bowl system was better partly because it did not try to determine the national champion. Nor am I arguing that the BCS system was better - it also was worse than the old bowl system. I don't think trying to find the "one true champion" is worth the degradation of the regular season.

 

I disagree. It's obviously a matter of opinion, but it's very clear that the BCS and especially now with the playoffs far more games have become less meaningful. The number of games that have gained meaning are literally 3 games - the three playoff games.

So basically every single sport is wrong and FBS college football has it right? If they did not try in the past to determine a national champion then why did the AP, coaches, and others hand out a national championship trophy? The regular season is just that, a regular season...before it didn't have much meaning and now it does and it will have more once they allow for all teams to have a chance at the playoff. What college football needs to learn, and the NFL can't help themselves, is to not expand the regular season. Cut it back at least a game so wins and losses have more weight. 

2 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

Sure, that would be fun for me as a Nebraska fan.

 

But I used to watch as many of the bowl games as I could under the old system and as much of the regular season as I could. I rarely watch regular season games in sports with big playoffs at the end because the stakes just don't really matter all that much. And I now barely watch college football games other than Nebraska. I watch a few bowl games but rarely watch the playoffs because I haven't followed the teams during the season and generally don't care who wins. I think overall the old bowl system was better for the sport as a whole. The playoff just attempts to limit the debate over who was best that year but doesn't really add anything IMO.

Maybe your personal priorities have changed some over the years? 

I tell you, even though OSU got thumped against Bama last year, beating Clemson was a very nice way for OSU to cap off a crap year of college football. Under a new system the stakes are now higher for teams like Cincinnati because their games will actually matter. We had system since the start of AP poll where most of the games didn't really matter because 1/2 of the teams never had a shot to play for a title before fall camp even started. Kind of hard to build and sustain a program under those terms. 

7 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

It was just a bonus at the end of the season. Got lots of memorable games. Not everything has to be about finding the "one true champion".

I have been around playoff games at other levels of the NCAA and there were still memorable games. However, at the end they had nation champion (non mythical). I bet you would have loved to see Nebraska play Michigan for the 1997 NC. I also bet you would have loved for Nebraska to have a shot in 1996 for a NC. It would have been awesome to see OSU play Nebraska in a playoff game that year. 

Why do people have an attachment to the old bowl system? With the time off between the regular season and the bowl season it didn't provide you with a true continuation of the season. It had this odd gap between games that hurt some teams and helped others get healthy. It is such an odd way to play out a football season and it doesn't exists at any other level. 

Expand the playoff and shorten the regular season by one game. It would be great if there was an actual limit on conference size so everyone would play each other within their conference every year. 

After watching these videos, are you surprised that Jim Jordan keeps getting reelected?