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Except nobody is defending her. Nobody wanted her. She was always the lesser of two evils. Trump voters are openly supporting their candidate. Clinton voters are pretty clear they were voting against Trump. Nobody is defending her right now because it doesn't appear there is much to defend. You can't honestly say that no one has been advocating for her over the last year or however long it's been. I believe you said earlier tonight you weren't in the politics and religion forum much. And I believe huKser's reply (which isn't quoted here anymore) was about people in this forum. Hardly ANYONE has defended Clinton here, even before the election.

I can blame their leadership. They went with Clinton, and in some ways it made sense because she has brought a lot of money to the Democratic party, but they still should have gone with what the primary voters wanted.

Clinton needs 90k+ in Wisconsin. From the counties she's leading she can only get ~ 30k. Is CNN just trying to delay Trump's party? He won't know he has a win just with Wisconsin but once Michigan or NH fall then it's over.

Me too. Cannot stand the woman and haven't been happy she's the "anointed one" for the Democrats this whole time. If just about anyone else were winning, I'd be OK.It's not that Clinton is losing. Screw her & the horse she rode in on.It's that Trump is going to be President of the United States.This isn't a game.yeah it is a game. Elitest politicians have been playing games with our lives and our futures for generations. This is just one big f#*k you to the system. What is Trump going to do to f*** up the system?

He always polled far better against Trump than Clinton did. But you never know what's going to happen when they actually face off.

Everyone said the world was going to end with the Brexit vote, and the markets went down for a few days then returned to their highs. Markets don't like uncertainty as all the pundits were predicating an HRC win. The pound is still extremely low against the dollar, last time I checked. I researched Vancouver and Edmonton... long before the election. Not for dislike of America though.

The Democrats need to start with their primary process

Damn CNN, there's no mathematical way for Clinton to win WI.

CNN guy just mentioned a Sanders/Warren primary. Sanders will be like 80 then, Warren will be 71.

My friend in California (in the middle of L.A.) just got home from voting and said 6 other people were there. Guess the rest are all sitting on their asses watching the results. Really doubt they all voted already.

I'm not sure why CNN isn't calling Wisconsin unless it's for ratings purposes. If my math is right she can only get around 55k from Madison and Milwaukee. She's down by 79k.

Me too. Cannot stand the woman and haven't been happy she's the "anointed one" for the Democrats this whole time. If just about anyone else were winning, I'd be OK. It's not that Clinton is losing. Screw her & the horse she rode in on. It's that Trump is going to be President of the United States. This isn't a game. I'm confused. Do you want Clinton to win or not? I want Trump not to be president. And it's extremely likely that a slight majority of the country feels the opposite. No it's not. It's probably, like, 49.5% likely that Trump will win the popular vote

If Clinton wins MI and PA and NH and NV, we have a 269-269 tie

Agreed. Was very against her winning the nomination.

That's abundantly clear. Unfortunately, there are people who have to stick their hand in the fire before they understand how badly they'll get burned. Problem is, Trump voters have stuck everyone's hand in the fire. That's my problem with this. I'm fine with us getting whatever comes from this. It's our own damn fault... except I didn't bring any of it, damn it. Don't pull me down with you.

Just a note on this: Two of these scenarios would actually be 269-269 (if I can count). And wouldn't that be fun. It'd be a quick vote for Trump by the Republican congress

They're predicting he'll win Michigan and Clinton will win Wisconsin. If those 3 predictions are correct Trump will win.

Lol...Nate Silver's predictions for HIllary keep going down. If Trump wins, Silver and all other pollsters need to go out of business. vegas predicted only a 2 score win for ohio state over nebraska. guess they should go out of business. And NU/OSU is one of hundreds of games each week. The US Presidential Election happens once every 4 years and has millions of dollars in polling and analysis completed. Apples and oranges comparison. We're looking at state by state to get the final probability. So it's basically 50 football games. And again, it's probability. 70% means there's a 30% chance Trump would win. That's not terrible odds.

According to 538, Clinton now has a 50% chance of winning the electorate. Also, just heard an update from CNN saying most of the missing Wayne county votes are in Detroit.

Clinton will most likely win the popular vote unless California stays home.

Lol...Nate Silver's predictions for HIllary keep going down. If Trump wins, Silver and all other pollsters need to go out of business. I don't think you understand predictions. Please explain...if Silver and others gave Hillary an 75 or 80% chance of winning, and she loses, how is that not a miss with their prediction? You're saying they should go out of business. There's a reason studies don't actually go into production unless they're 95% confident about the right thing. (confidence isn't the same as probability - but I digress). I believe his final prediction was at 70% for a Clinton victory. He also stated many times that the margins of error were very big for this election compared to previous ones.

If you scroll through this, they've been updating them periodically. http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/2016-election-results-coverage/ Oh thanks. I was actually wondering why they weren't still be posted in this forum. but this will work. There hadn't been a lot of updates with the snake one, and she ended up keeping Virginia (most likely).

Lol...Nate Silver's predictions for HIllary keep going down. If Trump wins, Silver and all other pollsters need to go out of business. I don't think you understand predictions.

If you scroll through this, they've been updating them periodically. http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/2016-election-results-coverage/