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I don't know if anyone really ever wins in a pissing match like this.  You may or may not get your satisfaction but you will be losing a neighbor for sure.  Do you want that?  Just be living next to a cold enemy?  Do you want to try and remain amicable?  If you don't give a damn hire the best attorney and get after it.  If you want to remain amicable grab a rake and some seed and a dripline.

I once saw a dispute over a little dog get so bitter a quick survey of property was done and a solid privacy fence put in so close to the neighbor's house that you could scarcely walk along the house.  I guess moral of the story is better damn well know your property line before you get pissy.

On 2/20/2020 at 9:35 PM, BigPeterJ said:

Lebron has the best argument after Michael.  Kobe was a great scorer, but Lebron makes the entire team better on offense.

 I remember watching the Bulls in 1991 take out the Bad boys and then overtake Magic and the Lakers in 5. It was like watching a 18 year old son finally take out his dad in 1v. 1. Jordan and the Bulls finally just became too much for any team to handle.  Just too much.  Too dangerous, too dynamic. Too young.  To put this in perspective, the Lakers had reigned mostly supreme for the last ten years.  Magic, Worthy, Jabbar...  They had to respect Pippen.  You had to guard Paxson, Armstrong sideline to sideline or they would assasinate you from 3 pt.  You had to out work Horace Grant (Good luck!)

And then there was Michael Jordan.  A dual force who could score better than he could shut you down.  And he could really shut you down. He was like a wolf in the forest, always creating havoc and relentlessly reaping the rewards.  And he demanded his team do the same. 

Someone asked Pippen recently if Chicago could beat Golden State.  Pippen said something like, Golden State might win, we are all getting old now!

On 2/17/2016 at 2:34 PM, AZRaiderH8r said:

I've gotten into several fairly heated arguments about Jordan vs. Kobe, and to me it's not even up for debate. Kobe has certainly had a fantastic career, but I don't believe that we will ever see a player better than MJ.

Kobe possibly just a better pure scorer than Jordan, but Jordan was clutch, played D, and had all the intangibles.

1 hour ago, BigPeterJ said:

If they would have just not gone to a border CHECKPOINT they would have made it.  Not that i support what they did, but these arent the type of people that need to be locked up.  Now the people of Louisiana are gonna have to get their weed from the cartel, where as if tbese guys would have made it , the whole state of Louisiana could have put the cartel out of business in their state for a month.

SO MUCH WEED!!!  DUDE...

Greg Robinson:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.tmz.com/2020/02/19/cleveland-browns-greg-robinson-arrested-marijuana-border-patrol/

The first stage is denial...

7 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

I can’t and I really don’t care. 

Dwight Schrute, look it up.

Just now, Xmas32 said:

 

The Skutt kid on the other end?  The kid from Westside that has an offer from SDSU?

We just spitballin' here?  I said name one.

Just now, SouthLincoln Husker said:

Just asking, as you are defending from start to finish even though he has no star rating at all!

stars,  shmars.  

Snoop Dogg ain't got no stars, He still rocks!

Lawdy Lawdy we likes to party, 

sing it ... I know you know it!

Just now, SouthLincoln Husker said:

Are you related?

Are we related?  Who's your daddy?

1 minute ago, BigRedBuster said:

So, now you’re a Wyoming fan because of Harsh?

 

look, I hope the kid is the next Jay Novacek ( different position but same situation). But, Nebraska has a good class going and the staff is recruiting well while recruiting more Nebraska kids. 

Name one prep QB who made the finals in Nebraska last year who was better than Harsh.  One.  

Sun Tzu said Know yourself but not your enemy, win half your battles...know the enemy and yourself....PUMMEL THE HAWKEYES.  Hawkeyes is a literal Chinese translation.

2 hours ago, MyBloodIsRed16 said:

here is a thought.  Maybe this kid camped at Nebraska and the coaches saw him against good talent and decided to pass?

they did pass that is for sure.  Probably for the best for Harsh honestly.

3 hours ago, Waldo said:

OP witnessed the greatest punt in Memorial Stadium history and believes this guy should be a 3 way starter. 

Well that's what I heard...

10 hours ago, Mavric said:

 

What do you expect his coach to say?  "He sucks as a passer so we run it all the time?"

 

He was 2-11 for 22 yards in the state championship game when they needed it the most.  I'll take what actually happens on the field over whatever sunshine the coach wants to pump.

 

Also, when you have to resort to putting a bunch of words in other people's mouths, it probably means your argument isn't very strong.

 

 

We did offer him something.  He had a walk-on offer here.  He chose Wyoming (cue the "well, they didn't *really* want him argument).

And that is worth something, you are correct. 

7 hours ago, Throw Dem Bones said:

You clearly have some personal connection to the kid, the HS or something because you are way too up in arms about this.. You keep bringing up the state title and Harsh carrying the team. That’s great! He’s a big kid that plays tough. With his size he has the ability to use that to his advantage in Nebraska class B which explains the solid running numbers. He is not a QB especially at the college level, I don’t care what his coaches say. He didn’t do anything overly impressive on the defensive side of the ball either. He has fight and size and moderate athleticism. (Just because he had a monster punt doesn’t make him a freak athlete) 

 

I hope he does well at Wyoming. I hope he proves me and all the others wrong. Maybe he’s a late bloomer. Maybe we can just let this topic die because he’s not coming to Nebraska (by his choice), not some Danny Woodhead (true miss) and he is NOT the next Jim Thorpe....
 

PS - you can be mad at past staffs for their walk on and recruitment of Nebraska but you’re f#&%ing off your rocker if you think Frost and this staff aren’t doing an incredible job at working the state for scholly and walk on kids.

 

Thanks for the entertainment, back to our regularly scheduled recruiting program...

 

I do not have any connection to this kid other than just the fact that we watched him in the Class B final and he is a hell of an athlete.  So for the fourth time, what miffed me was Nebraska should especially be targeting good in state kids like him.  I don't think anyone reached out like Craig Bohl did to this kid.  When you are a lets face it struggling program like Nebraska is now, if you are bleeding even a few good kids from your own state it is too many.

The apathy wreaks of incompetence frankly.  That kid showed everything you want on the field there in Memorial and they let him walk.  I just dont understand it.  It doesn't bode well for these coaches and sends a bad message.  

Clearly the kid is a beast athlete.  6'2 230 lbs, accounted for all his teams scores against Skutt, coming out of western Nebraska.  Multiple highlight reel runs, decent passer. I don't know his grades, could be good, could be bad, I just know what I saw on the field, the kid can definitely play.  Nebraska needs to build these in-state kids.  The difference between a kid that can do it and one that doesn't is often times the expectation level of his coach.

And he showed it there, on that field.

Dont get me wrong, I am not sitting here mad, take a chill, just dismayed.

this is just entertainment for me.  Now if a piece of my peanut butter granola bar broke off and fell in the trash....then I would be pissed.  

Just now, HS_Coach_C said:

I've seen the video. I was just providing stats that are put in by the Scottsbluff coaches themselves.

 

Again, it was one punt...

Tress Way only averaged 48.  And that is with NFL level coverage.  

It wasn't one punt....it was one helluva punt.

55 minutes ago, HS_Coach_C said:

FYI: here are his career punting stats according to max preps. Great athlete, probably a great kid, and I wish him well, but I don't blame the staff one bit. Good luck at Wyoming.

Right......

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/nebraska-high-schooler-uncorks-79-yard-punt-in-state-championship-game/amp/

Listen, you guys really know your stuff, seriously no disrespect,

This was a miss in my view I hope NU doesn't let too many good ones like this get away.  

1 hour ago, Mavric said:

 

What do you expect his coach to say?  "He sucks as a passer so we run it all the time?"

 

He was 2-11 for 22 yards in the state championship game when they needed it the most.  I'll take what actually happens on the field over whatever sunshine the coach wants to pump.

 

Also, when you have to resort to putting a bunch of words in other people's mouths, it probably means your argument isn't very strong.

 

 

We did offer him something.  He had a walk-on offer here.  He chose Wyoming (cue the "well, they didn't *really* want him argument).

Well I think Craig Bohl showed the kid he cared more... and that is what I am talking about, no one at NU really tried there. 

1 hour ago, BigRedBuster said:

I think you disrespect the other kids on the team. He’s a good athlete. But, a good football team is not just one. 

I am sorry did you watch the class B finals this year?  I am just curious.

Because no disrespect, but without Harsh Scottsbluff loses by 3 scores easily.

This was a miss by NU, and a disconcerting one.  They should have taken this kid in and developed him. 6'2 230.  That could easily be 250 in a couple years at linebacker, wildcat QB etc.  He also has a quick release.  Took a western school to the finals twice, you don't know how hard that is. 

That kid who didn't sniff the three deep, was he 6'2 230 out of high school? 

5 minutes ago, HS_Coach_C said:

So you never answered. Are you his coach or his dad?

Neither.  I am the guy who was miffed that NU let one of their best prep athletes just walk.  But I should not be surprised.  

BTW would you be willing to give me a penny a day up until the next time we see a high school kid come into Memorial and punt the ball 82 yds?

(Under duress, in his own end zone)

I mean if he just some JUCO level kid, that wouldn't be very long right?

3 hours ago, Waldo said:

For every one of these kids that pan out, there are 4 or 5 that cant hang. 
Burrow was a miss by the last regime and he was a 4 star out of HS, not even in the same argument as Mr. Harsh. 

Burrow used purely as an example that we dont always know the whole story with a kid.  Never compared athletically to Harsh.

5 hours ago, Mavric said:

 

First, I doubt he is a QB recruit for anyone.  So "doing it with his arm" really has no relevance.  Not to mention he threw fewer than 7 passes per game and only completed 54%.  So I'm not sure that's really accurate.

 

He was a beast of a runner.  But I'm not sure he's terribly fast.  So running back is probably out.  

 

That leaves linebacker.  And he could probably be a solid one.  But he's not even a scholarship guy at a middling Mountain West program.  It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of that has to do with academics. 

 

I hope the best for the kid because he looks like he has the makings of a really good football player.  But I'm not going to be surprised if there's an update this summer about which JUCO he's going to.

I respect this take.  My thesis here is though as NU you take these Nebraska kids who are the beasts and you develop them.  You dont let them boom or bust elsewhere.

I dont know if others would have offered him but I would have offered him something.  And the message to the kids of the rest of the state is this.  You come into Memorial stadium and show that kind or heart and potential, you belong here.

I do not know his grades, and I am sorry that might be a big caveat, but I don't know.

5 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

Like I said, this might be a miss for Nebraska.  What I don't get is why you are taking this so personally.  Is this your son?

Well it is just that as a program if you have pure apathy for a Nebraska kid like that, and I am telling you, watch his games, then you deserve to be 5-6.  It is Callahanesque.  Bugs the sh#@ out of me.  

And I said before, the whole kick thing, no I am not saying he is a kicker I am saying that was an athletic act few can duplicate.  Do we value Jim Thorpe just for throwing percentage or ypg? Hell no, it was because he could by gawd do it all.  Pure athlete.  

This kid from Scottsbluff damn near won the Class B title on his own damn determination, period.  

All I am saying is a smart staff sends a message to the states prep players about what they value if they give that kid a hat with a red N on it.  Hard work, athleticism, wanting to lay it all out there on THAT field. 

Now, Mav points out I dont know the particulars and this is true.  

But I would have been on that field with a black ink pen and a piece of paper for that kid. 

If he gives the effort at Laramie he gave in Memorial stadium, he will be fine.  Frankly he left more on the field there in 8 quarters than about 60% of the current NU roster.

5 hours ago, Mavric said:

 

First, I doubt he is a QB recruit for anyone.  So "doing it with his arm" really has no relevance.  Not to mention he threw fewer than 7 passes per game and only completed 54%.  So I'm not sure that's really accurate.

 

He was a beast of a runner.  But I'm not sure he's terribly fast.  So running back is probably out.  

 

That leaves linebacker.  And he could probably be a solid one.  But he's not even a scholarship guy at a middling Mountain West program.  It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of that has to do with academics. 

 

I hope the best for the kid because he looks like he has the makings of a really good football player.  But I'm not going to be surprised if there's an update this summer about which JUCO he's going to.

Oooh thats Harsh!

His coach said the kid could have thrown for 2000 yds but they don't run that kind of offense. Coach's words, not mine.  It reminds me of when the NP coach told folks Woodhead was the best back he had coached in 25 years.  And folks scoffed.

Are we saying that we don't want to develop excellent in-state players?  BC that is what he was.  By all measures. As good as any walk on we have.  Have you heard of the self-fulfilling prophecy and the value of expectation?  

Or do you just want everything handed to you on a silver platter?

23 minutes ago, SouthLincoln Husker said:

Is he going to punt or play a different position.  My nephew took a scholarship from UNO to play def. instead of being a walk-on place kicker.  Different time & coaches, but it sounds like you do not know the whole story.

I think it is just reflective of the program if you cant value what kids like that show you in your own house.  I think his on the field effort there in Memorial was indicative of what the kid would do.  

Does anyone ever know the whole story?  I mean really?  Did the Deangelo evans recruiters or the Washington recruiters know the whole story?  Burrow?  Woodhead?  

You put that Kid in an N helmet and see what happens.  If you can, go back and watch the 2nd half of the Class B final this year.