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this is a total breakdown, players immature have given up on 12-0 coaching staff, some coaches not doing jobs well either.

Thats the sich.  Now the solution:  clean house on any player who is not all in.  Start freshmen, take key cards away from fat lazy losers.  

10 hours ago, Archy1221 said:

I think after the season, Moose should sit down with Frost and not necessarily demand any coaching changes, but let him know in the best way possible that Coach Frost would benefit greatly from hiring someone who is seasoned in coaching that would be willing to come in and be sort of a second set of eyes coach (not sure of what the title would be, maybe just advisor) who is not tied to and with no loyalty to anyone in the coaching staff.  

 

This person could look at Roster management, coaching staff, game management decisions, etc...from an outside perspective and i believe give coach Frost some invaluable advice.  

 

Almost all all of our coaches are pretty young in terms of coaching at their level and could be missing a few things that would be glaring to someone looking at it from the outside in. 

 

Coach Frost is still the man to be here in my book and should be given 5 total years (barring any unforeseen drastic non football issues) before he starts to get on a hot seat, but that doesn’t mean he couldn’t learn from some older wisdom with no dog in the fight to help make/solidly some tough decisions that may have to be made. 

More head honchos in the room can really complicate things, usually with bad outcomes.  Environments become toxic.  I am not on board with this.

Dr. Pepper stock up for game day Add to cart.  Can I get paid now?

On 10/26/2019 at 8:27 PM, BigPeterJ said:

Clearly your related to Ausin or Frost.  What your not seeing is that our offense has been worse than our defense all year.  So IF your gonna call for Chinanders head, u better be calling for heads on the offensive side of the ball. 

anybody ever teach you that it is you're, not "your"? 

6 hours ago, husker_fan_from_sweden said:

I beg to differ. Held has done a better job than A lot of guys on the other side of the ball.

 

Look I know you might ignore half of the games at this point after the offense is done. Yes they have been bad.

 

But for goodness sake dude, look at the damn box scores, you know, the only stat that actually matters.

 

35-21

L, 31-34 OT

44-8

42-38

L 7-48

13-10

L 7-34

L, 31-38

 

That is TWO games the defense showed up to. And one was against a bad NIU team.

 

I count FIVE, maybe SIX with the Northwestern game we showed up on the offensive side even with a terrible O-line.

 

If you can’t see that I can’t help you.

 

Bronander needs sumpthin'

2 hours ago, cheekygeek said:

> I never thought i'd say this, but i'm turning in my season tickets at the end of the year.

 

Please do. Demand still exceeds supply & “Best Football Fans in the Nation” are standing by to snag them.

Enable much?

time for the U to drop the required donation.  

No service no tip.

No excellence, no donation.

8 hours ago, 4skers89 said:

I believe TO turned to Bowden and FSU's staff to help fix the defense.  McBride was the DC at the time and used the knowledge gained to produce some outstanding defenses.  Without the help I'm not sure anything would have changed and the fan's opinion of McBride was probably right.  Anyone with more knowledge about that time please correct me.  Because our staff is young and inexperienced, I really think they would benefit a lot by having some unemployed head coaches on staff as analysts whose only job is to analyze what we are doing on offense and defense.  They can identify weaknesses and specific things we need to improve on.  The coaches can focus on game planning for specific opponents.  I believe Saban utilizes his analysts to game plan for opponents but I think we need help identifying things we are doing wrong.

Our defenses at the time were based out of the old 5-2 and we could handle anything in the Big 8 until it came time for OU and even then the 5-2 was not a disadvantage. Our D line was always very strong and well disciplined, like Wisconsin of today. However when it came time to play the Bowl game against a national opponent our lack of speed got exposed.   The low point for me was the (1991?) bowl against GT where we pretty much got drubbed, it actually reminds me of yesterdays game.  Yes flags flew at half staff a few years earlier after Miami blanked us but it was MIAMI.  But it still hurt.

They switched to the 4-3 defense and REALLY stressed pressure coming off the edge.  They would line up one or two linebackers at the line so you could not tell if they were coming on a blitz or backing up into coverage.  The thing was whenever a high flying team tried that 30 yd pass there was always a dude in red right on him, swatting that ball down.  Our man coverage 1993-1995 was just outstanding.  They saved multiple scores just by being right on the dude.  I can"t even count the times one of our little D backs would sky at just the right moment and knock that ball away just as it was getting to the receiver's hands.  It seemed the motto was "You Get Nothin'!"

Also though , those boys played physical our safeties hit so hard across the middle they would be ejected today and we would be flagged for some of our QB hits as well.  And that is not an idictment of the old team as much as it is to say how the game sucks now.

In fact the game is in some weird grey area now between real football and ultimate frisbee.  If you never experienced the game back in the 90's you probably don't understand.  When the Safeties,linebackers, and D ends are allowed to Hit the game of football gets faster.  It has to because as a offensive player if you know that guy is going to clean your clock, you play lower and get down faster.  You go over the middle quicker.  You run the ball more to take pressure off that QB.  There were also less commercial breaks, way less flags usually, and the game was just more enjoyable to watch.  

With these multi-million dollar pro quarterbacks I think they want to go toward no hitting of the QB at all.  But if you do that you might as well just go toward 7 on 7 passing league, QB can't run.  

These contrived "targetting" penalties have really changed the game for the worse in my view.  Like light beer or guar gum ice cream.

I dont think the D players are buying in with the D coaches, and I dont know what the D coaches excuses are.  

The offense running plays are just too easy   Zone draw, QB draw, zone draw.  No effective play action.  No power game. No inside trap.  No counter-tray.  

Bring back some diamond formation, and pass out of it too   Give Mills the ball on some quick traps or loaded off tackle. Its just too easy to diagnose the QB runs right now.  

1 hour ago, krc1995 said:

did any of those guys play in this century?  In this conference? 

Are you insinuating that todays Indiana game is somehow a more daunting challenge than 1993 National championship against Florida St?? 

You think their skills in man coverage were lacking?

Were magical new routes invented in the last 10 years which would somehow render Moss and Minter ineffective?  

Is the Indiana quarterback better than Charlie Ward? (Heisman)

34 minutes ago, chamrocck said:

It's the man coverage.  You have to be excellent to play it.  I hate seeing it in college because most guys are not good enough so they get torched or get PI calls.  It's like playing blind.  

Oh, I don't know, Barron Miles, Kareem Moss, Tyrone Williams, Eric Stokes, Mike Minter, Troy Dumas, didn't have no problem with man coverage.

Whats wrong with being excellent?

Can you feel the strain?

Diaco is unique because he was  brought in by the AD, not the HC.  And the head coach and most of the players could pass him in the hallway and not even know who the hell he was.  He got zero buy-in.  I'm not saying he was a world beater but damn.  

We should get a doctoral student to Nebraska to do an in depth study on the fragility and psychology of the coaching/ player relationship because this place is an outlier and the place where heretofore great coaching careers go to DIE.

Theres obviously something about Lincoln that is sucking the desire out of the players to commit to greatness.  

I think it must have to do with the party scene and (lack) of leadership from teammates and to some extent coaches.

I am seeing D backs playing not only with lack of technique, but also lack of effort.  A wisconsin or ohio st. DB would have been much tighter to the receivers throughout, and also would have tried to strip the ball more often and harder.  

D line getting very little pressure.

I'm not sure you understand what I was trying to say, or at least I don't get where you are coming from.

A Div 1 coach's emotional and personal commitment to a troubled young man is directly proportional to the kid's Ave. YPC.  Exceed 5.1 and we are willing to guide you through the challenges of life and help you overcome a disadvantaged childhood, current criminal charges, addiction and dependency.  

Now if we also have a trouble free kid who can do the same, then its " here's the door fellow, and an application for McDonalds.  

8 minutes ago, LumberJackSker said:

I couldn't think of a worse person to enforce a no weed policy, the guy has literally smoked weed during post fight interviews.

EDIT  OK my bad.   

If you ever wanted to know if the league is straight or not watch the Wiscy tOSU game this weekend.  The league knows that tOSU is their only shot to get to the playoff, after a long absence.  Watch the refs close, especially if Wiscy is threatening in the 4th.

I think this team needs Nate Diaz to be the check-in guy at the football facility for 7 am daily workouts.  Nate smells your breath and if he smells weed or alcohol he totally beats the crap out of you until you escape.  A week of that and I think the team will come around.

1 hour ago, Roundball Shaman said:

Ulty: “...Frost didn't come to Nebraska as a stepping stone job. This is home. Secondly, if he has multiple losing seasons at Nebraska, which big name schools or NFL teams would be trying to poach him?”

Frost, regardless of what his Husker record turns out to be, remains a better coach than most college programs have right now. And for some programs he is MUCH better. He would be in demand - especially if there is a “better fit” somewhere. If Frost simply feels he isn’t getting it done in Lincoln, he might “for the good of the program” look to open the way for someone else. To date, he clearly was a better fit for Central Florida than he’s been for the Big Red. This isn’t all his doing or fault, just a statement of the results.

Not saying he actually wants to leave now or ever. Frost has maybe 30 years of coaching ahead if he wants it. That’s a long time. He pretty much has two possible futures. He either is the new Tom Osborne at NU, or he’s going to seek success in a new direction.

It was an act of courage for him to come to Lincoln, as much as “home” that might be. Strong guy willing to take on a big challenge with lots of pressure. Sometimes going home is the toughest thing you can ever do. And sometimes, home isn’t home anymore.

And sometimes you might be a 3rd year 16-20 HC when a coastal team offers you a few mill and a new start.

4 hours ago, Ulty said:

 

No way.

 

First of all, Frost didn't come to Nebraska as a stepping stone job. This is home. Secondly, if he has multiple losing seasons at Nebraska, which big name schools or NFL teams would be trying to poach him?

Thank you, and I get this.  We will just have to see how it turns out.

Got to think too, if the kids don't buy in and some big name U or NFL comes callin, Scott might go.  Couldn't blame him one bit.

1 hour ago, hskrfan4life said:

I think it's still real. We have 4 wins, 3 losses and 5 games left. So if we win all 5, correct my math if I'm wrong, but that's 9 wins. And if we only win 4 of them, that's 8, 3 wins would be 7, 2 wins would be 6, 1 win would be 5, 0 wins would be 4 wins. So all the above is a "real" result that can be obtained.

This is true.  Also if one monkey flew out of my britches, and two monkeys out of yours, then it is entirely possible that three monkeys can fly out of our pants.

9 minutes ago, Maized & Confused said:

 

No, Daniel Day Lewis is not part of the question...

See this is where the mind goes in a season like this.  

Help me, I need a self-check on something I have struggled with for a long time.  In the movie "Troy", Brad Pitt's character Achilles kills Eric Bana's character Hector after a decent fight scene.  In real life do you think Brad Pitt could kick Eric Bana's a$$?  What if it was a cage match?