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4 hours ago, Decked said:

I am buying into the hype. I think we land this one. Wind is starting to blow in our direction. It will be by no means easy. I think we fend off a strong USC push. Georgia is also very much still in play. 

The wind has been blowing in Nebraska's direction.

6 hours ago, admo said:

Oh no worries, I wasn't implicating, only inquiring and appreciating.  Trying to understand.  Because Dylan is pretty special future player wherever he goes.  I don't follow recruiting to closely.  My apologies if I spoke incorrectly. 

All good. Agreed that he's the type of talent that could elevate a program.

1 hour ago, admo said:

Ok, so are you saying the latest QB that Georgia took is the 2nd QB?

 

Because, when you are the best CFB team in the nation the last 2 years, Georgia has the right to sign 2 amazing QBs.  Georgia's playing level is one of a few teams that have earned that right.  

I am not. They simply offered the QB, one that's in their backyard. Dylan, at times has lamented on his relationship with the Georgia staff that has been built over the last couple of years; They were his 1st offer IIRC. Lastly, I never said UGA couldn't or shouldn't recruit 2 QBs, in fact I get it. Their room is very thin and I wouldn't be surprised if they took a transfer. My point is that Georgia doesn't offer an in-state kid they've known about as their 2nd QB if they were confident about DR, who've they've been recruiting for a long time.

On 2/7/2023 at 2:05 PM, swmohusker said:

Georgia offered a 24' QB out of Georgia recently.  That has to mean they are keeping their options open and have doubts that Raiola is theirs to lose.  

I've heard/read that UGA is planning on taking two(They already have one) but it's a pretty significant development for anyone that doesn't think Dylan and Nebraska is going to happen.

I really think UGA should be compared to USC in the early 2000's. More so than our 90s teams. That said, I didn't hesitate to pick Nebraska in the poll.

They're not getting Evers, Mordecai or Williams without putting the ball in the air much more than they have. Sure they'll still be run oriented but they'll be easier to prepare for because they'll be more like everyone else.

53 minutes ago, 84HuskerLaw said:

Every defense is susceptible to QB runs.  It creates 11 vs 11 which is not often the case when QBs are just ball distributors. 

Yep and I hope Nebraska employs the QB run game going forward.

7 minutes ago, huskerpower22 said:

 

Same. It seems like he was pleading with his fan base the first half of the season to show up to games. 

From Mississippi's Clarion ledger:

 

Kiffin will make $7.25 million in 2022 and receive a $100,000 raise every year through the contract's expiration in 2025. Mississippi law prohibits a public employee from signing a contract longer than four years. 

A clear majority of Kiffin's contract is not paid by the university. Per Kiffin's Ole Miss contract, he only earns $290,000 each year from the university.

 

In 2022:

• Head coach Lane Kiffin: $7,250,000
• Co-defensive coordinator and S coach Chris Partridge: $1,200,000
• Co-offensive coordinator and QBs coach Charlie Weis, Jr.: $800,000
• Assistant head coach and WRs coach Derrick Nix: $500,000
• Defensive line coach Randall Joyner: $450,000
• Running backs coach Marquel Blackwell: $400,000
• Tight ends coach and passing game coordinator John David Baker: $375,000
• Strength coach Nick Savage: $375,000
• Offensive line coach Jake Thornton: $300,000

In 2023:

• Head coach Lane Kiffin: $7,350,000
• Co-defensive coordinator and S coach Chris Partridge: $1,300,000
• Co-offensive coordinator and QBs coach Charlie Weis, Jr.: $825,000
• Assistant head coach and WRs coach Derrick Nix: $525,000
• Defensive line coach Randall Joyner: N/A
• Running backs coach Marquel Blackwell: $425,000
• Tight ends coach and passing game coordinator John David Baker: N/A
• Strength coach Nick Savage: $500,000
• Offensive line coach Jake Thornton: $325,000

Again. People that say OM is a better job are only looking at things because of where they are on the map and that they are seemingly rolling right now. You wouldn't have to tell Nebraska fans twice to show up for a ranked team, let alone for one that has been bowl-less for the last several years.

Yes, the clarion ledger post. I was a little off on the numbers. Yes Kiffin's salary is mostly from private donors. 

6 minutes ago, Stumpy1 said:

That is exactly what I was told.  He wants a cap on NIL money because of that.  
 

He's gone on record saying that. Though I'm unsure if that's going to happen anytime soon. That said, OM's NIL is behind a lot of schools in general.

1 minute ago, Stumpy1 said:

I would absolutely love Kiffin here.  I think he has changed a lot as a HC after his stint at the Saban School of Coaching.   I know he hasn’t been pleased with the support at Ole Miss and I have also been told that his salary will be capped after this current contract is up. 

Due to state law, Mississippi state employees can only have a maximum of 4 year contracts. The most he will make in one year is 7.5 mil. Any other school outside of the state can offer more per year with a 5th/6th year. Plus Kiffin has been frustrated with NIL, particularly after losing Arch to Texas, where Thompson has said Nebraska has a better NIL collective.

Again not saying he's the guy.

23 minutes ago, cheekygeek said:

Not saying he's the guy, but it makes a WHOLE LOT of sense. Coaches are in it for the money, at the end of the day. They make moves when their "stock" is highest. Right now he has Ole Miss undefeated, at the top of SEC West, with the #3 (Tied with Tennessee) "Points For" in the SEC (6 points behind Georgia) combined with a "Points Against" that is #4 in the SEC  (6 better than Alabama). His stock may never be higher in a tough conference. He also would likely LOVE being "the guy" for a team that has a whole State to itself. You know he'd love to play before a home crowd in a sellout Memorial Stadium.

Other than each school's current state would it be a step down. Nebraska has a  bigger budget, better NIL, fan support and is not in a conference where if things are in order, would be at 8th in the pecking order. That's not even counting OU and Texas. Ole Miss' recruiting hasn't been much better, some years it's been worse. Any location advantage OM has is eliminated by other teams in their conference, with better resources, that take their in state talent.

I too am not saying he's the guy either.

Just now, hskrfan4life said:

He had a good first game then what happened?

Let's just say after that very game, Nebraska was used to generate better fiscal opportunities...at least that's what the rumor is.

3 hours ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said:

 

Such as..?

If I knew I wouldn't be here for sure lol.

46 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said:

Hire Meyer, and I guarantee that there will be plenty of kids in the portal who want to play for him, and the turnaround will be quick while he recruits his own guys in the meantime.

Even though I don't think it will be Meyer, nor does it need to be. I'd take Meyer fyi. Just a guy that understands recruiting the Midwest particularly for OL, DL and LB but employs a staff that can attract skill. 

Depends on what "win now" looks like. If we are simply talking about bowl eligibility or 7/8 wins its absolutely possible with the right staff out the gate. If we are talking about being legitimate championship contenders within the big ten, that will take a few years. This is assuming the staff can maximize on field success and parlay that into recruiting wins.

1 hour ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said:

Point is, those teams may be competitive, but they're the exception. For the most part, recruiting matters.

 

Also, with the right coach, I don't think we're that far away from a championship. Question is whether or not we're willing to pay for the right coach.

Agree here. They are competitive because they are solid to very good/elite on the OL and in the front 7. This always gives them a chance against most teams, but the recruiting aspect keeps them from making that leap from just being competitive. If recruiting didn't matter, Iowa and especially Wisconsin would have won the conference by now, when neither OSU or Penn State were in some sort of trouble or with Michigan having an average coach. I feel the right coach will prioritize the OL and front 7 while maximizing recruiting the 500 mile radius or something similar for those types of players. Where I feel Nebraska can and will be different is attracting the skill players the aforementioned schools struggle to get, which could also stress an OSU or Michigan in a winner take all situation. Since being in the Big Ten, whether it was Pelini, Riley and now Frost, all have had issues recruiting, building/developing the OL and front 7 rooms. Hire a coach that will leave no stone unturned those places and those carrots the other current West teams have can no longer be dangled over our heads.

3 minutes ago, BIG ERN said:

AM had 4 INT vs Purdue and a fumble...5 turnovers. Oh yeah, he was also 48% passing that game. I don't see CT being that bad ever in a game. He will have some struggles at times but man I cannot wait for a good QB. 

Gotta have it in this type of offense. Not having one is like Wisconsin not having a very good RB. Capable of being a functional offense but can't quite do what it was designed to do.

1 hour ago, Huskerfollower4life said:

https://youtu.be/G7Z2HYLGdqk This is NOT WHAT is going to happen this year from our new qb. I guarantee that!!!!! Not the interception but throwing into double coverage. I studied the play a bunch of times the wide receiver had no chance for the ball. You can say the defender made a great catch but even still that ball shouldn't have never been thrown in the first place. Those things won't happen. 

I agree that CT should be better in that area. That throw by AM was actually better than a loss of downs from the 23 yard line, a play had to be made anyhow. What I didn't like were the sequence of playcalls leading up to that 4th down, especially the 2nd down call that gave AM and the OL especially very little margin of error on 3rd down.

3 hours ago, Blackshirt316 said:

The thing is they had a pretty strong defense last year and we tore it apart with over 450 yards in the airand just over 100 yards and three touchdowns on the ground.  We had 2 recievers over 100 yards. Austin Allen was 7 shy of 150 and we had at least half a dozen guys average 10+ a catch. The problem was that even though they only held the ball for 26 and change, held them 15 1st downs and 49 plays (we ran 70) we let them average 8 yards per carry and Braelon Allen run for 228 and 3 scores. And as usual our QB and special teams were awful in the big moments as Martinez threw 2 picks and we gave up a kick return for another touchdown.

 

We should be pretty good against the run and hopefully the special teams QB turnover issue is fixed.

We also have to always come away with points when getting to the redzone. That TO on downs in the 1st was huge. Like you said though, you can't give cheap points to a team that likes to control clock and being content with 2-5 yards a carry.

47 minutes ago, Husker in WI said:

Really happy to hear Omar Manning being the first name out of Mickey's mouth when asked about who was impressing so far. Also don't think I'd heard him specify that he's looking for 6 ready to play, but that does make sense. Gonna be competitive to get on the field. 

 

Mickey wasn't happy with today's practice though, and listed himself as the most consistent in the room which I think is pretty hilarious. 

For Manning, you hope its consistent and Mickey is still mentioning him 1st 3 weeks from now. Manning taking the lead on a spot is great for the season.

Add UNC

57 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

I was just being funny.

Duly noted

3 hours ago, knapplc said:

 

We need to focus on turning some of those losses into victories. 

Absolutely the little details will make a huge difference.

I'm not sure what's so funny about what I said, when you are losing games by single scores, it's due to not executing finite details and less about recruiting. Recruiting has little to do with coming out flat against Illinois - where your 4th year captain fields a punt at his own 5 yard line, another 4th year player earning a taunting penalty in the same game or not making Illinois use their TOs to go into the half tied at 9, your punter kicking in the wrong direction in East Lansing, not electing to take 3 points in your opening drive against Michigan, your ST unit giving up yet another KO return for a TD(see '19) or your 4th year capitan on defense refusing to actually tackle Brelon Allen giving up a long TD in Madison or your punting unit giving up a blocked kick against Iowa.

Of course there are moments when your kicking unit can't make FGs (OU), AM fumbles the ball against Michigan in the waning moments or throws a whopping 4 INTs against Purdue, takes an ill advised safety in Minneapolis or we just don't have to pass rush to get to Stroud but recruiting isn't the reason we are bowl-less these last 4 seasons.

1 hour ago, Undone said:

 

You may not actually follow our averages if this is your honest take.

 

Recruiting hasn't made Frost a .34 winning percentage coach. It's been an inability to fix special teams and get a handle on unforced errors, largely.

Yep. Which is why there have been so many one score losses.

1 hour ago, 84HuskerLaw said:

Certainly having a somewhat run heavier offense tends to help the defense by controlling clock and limiting possessions and cutting down on sack yards lost and ints and QB fumbles and sometimes injuries.  But three or 4 run plays vs pass plays isn’t exactly a huge difference.  
Conservative play calling, time management and playing relatively error free, smart fb helps a bunch.  This keeps scoring down and games closer on the scoreboard frequently.  That’s Big Ten (historically at least) fb.  Hard nosed, physical, power over finesse, etc.  Still, good fundamentals like blocking and tackling are a Big Ten hallmark.  
Neb fb has, imo, been trending in the right direction defensively albeit with a very good roster with few superlative players.  We need the offense to follow suit and STs to make drastic improvements across all aspects. STs is more a lack of practice and focus than talent, seemingly.  Offense needs schematic fixes imo but Whipple is wise and savvy enough from many years to see this.  Will it happen?  Will luck be with us?  Can we keep our contributors healthy and playing their guts out every snap?  We will know very soon what the prospects will be. 

Absolutely. The less opportunites you give the opponent to score, the higher chances you have to win on the things you mentioned including field position. This is enhanced if you as an opponent are mistake prone and are unable to put pressure on this approch by scoring TDs. Most offenses in the West don't have the vertical ability to stress weaker secondaries that usually get exposed in Indy. Granted you still have to be able to hold up in the run game and not give teams chances with turnovers. Winning the divison is usually the team that has the best run defense, the least TOs and can play the best field postion while having a prodcutive run game. We all know it isn't enough to win the whole thing as Iowa was eventually out talented by Michigan, NW by OSU and Wisconsin, who needed several mistakes by OSU to even be up at halftime in '19 even lost by double digits . None of these team could apply pressure offensively.  

As far a luck is concerned, we don't need it imo. Focus on the basics to meet where most of these teams are and then let your talent shine. As you mentioned, this conference will force you to be fundamentally sound or you'll pay more often than not.