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2 hours ago, Mavric said:

 

Yeah, I was just reading that from another source as well.  Sounds like Joseph hasn't been impressed with Grimes and Hardy.  So maybe we are/would take five WRs.

I hear VJJ may not be safe either. We'll also lose Manning and Martin after this year and depending on how the season goes for Palmer he may not be around long. 5 definitely isn't out of the question.

24 minutes ago, Dr. Strangelove said:

Nearly all the WR talent we recruit out of High School seem to be busts.

 

Why keep taking every mid tier 3* player and hope that this time is different? 

Yeah the last successful recruited WRs were Morgan and Speilman. What makes it different this time is that Mickey's track record is much better than Walter's and Lubick's. 

14 hours ago, Mavric said:

 

Not saying we can't do better.

 

But Wisconsin's recruits are from Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Indiana.  They've only had to go more than 300 miles to get one of them.

 

I only count six for Iowa (possibly depending on the service) and they are from Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, Missouri, Iowa, Iowa and they are all in a 500-mile radius.

 

So when you're getting half of them in-state and the rest basically next door, that does help.

This. Also, if anyone notices, when they do have 4* (or higher) commits in their classes, they usually are OL from those areas with a LB or two as well; The Pennsylvania kid is somewhat of a legacy as he has an older brother on the team. It's the main thing they have on us from a personnel standpoint.

There is a quote out there by Gunita stating he wanted Nebraska to focus more on securing kids from the region which I feel is needed. They are more likely to commit, stay committed and stay in your program allowing development and continuity where Wisconsin thrives as they have a very low rate of transfers. Between Nebraska, Colorado, Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri and South Dakota we can find similar OL talent needed to close that gap Wisconsin has built up to.

Where we will always have an upper hand is the ability to attract skill, that will look better with good OL play, that Wisconsin will continue to struggle with by virtue of their style.

Just now, The Scarlet Pimpernel said:

You’ve got to be kidding. He was the main one who landed Ajay Allen, not to mention Decoldest Crawford, Kaine Williams, & Trey Palmer… plus I’m probably forgetting some others 

Right. He's done well. If anyone is wanting to see more HS results, we'll land some this year. It might not be the kid this thread is about but he will help us. Plus you might not really see it until '24 when he's had a chance to build a relationship with kids recruiting for Nebraska. It would really help if there are more wins behind it as well.

52 minutes ago, RichardHangslow said:

At 6'4  220 he is kind of a tweener, be interesting where he pans out in college I can see him playing linebacker trying to fill a Garrett Nelson role.

That's exactly where's slotted to play. 

27 minutes ago, Mavric said:

 

We'll see...

 

 

It's all good unless he gets beat out by Arch but Ewers has a year to establish himself.

3 hours ago, Husker in WI said:

Does he though? His two best teams (2016 Western Michigan and 2019 Minnesota) have averaged 27/25 pass attempts and 45/43 rushing attempts per game. Ohio State last year averaged 38 passes/32 rushes. Although that was a bit of a departure, they were a lot more run-heavy with Fields/Dobbins in the past. I can't fault Fleck because it works, but I don't think he has any intention of opening things up. 

You could be right but point isnt the quantifiable part you mentioned but the how. Yes OSU does a lot of damage on the ground but they overwhelm you vertically with superior talent and mutiple receiver sets, thats what i think he wants but he doesn’t quite have the personnel to do it. Whereas their biggest rival, Wisconsin, is limited in how they can attack vertically outside of the rare alpha receiver they get and their usual TE. He wants the ability to be mutiple which is what OSU is.

What I will give you is that he invests heavily in the OL whether it's traditionally or in the portal and in big RBs.

1 hour ago, Xmas32 said:

 

Oh, yeah I totally follow you and understand why they do it.  It's just you hear Fleck talk and figure his offense would be akin to the Mike Leach Air Raid stuff versus the '3 yards and a cloud of dust' thing they've got going on up in MN.

He's really good at the persuasion and charisma. It's really helpful he's at Minnesota as well. I know he wants to operate on a more Ohio State approach (Use a more wide open offense) but being at Minnesota is also a reason why it will be difficult.

6 hours ago, Husker in WI said:

 

I would say it's easier for raw strength to make up for slow feet in high school wrestling than it is in major college football. I'm hopeful with Nash, he's freakishly strong and it was always going to take a couple years of refinement for him. But it does worry me that there are quite a few people talking about the feet as a problem. 

I see people harping on his footspeed all the time but is it all that much important if he's functional in short spaces while forcing OLs to commit more than one blocker on him? Due to him overwhelming the guy across him.

4 minutes ago, Husker in WI said:

 

 

It's so frustrating that it works too. They are still the only football team I have ever seen kneel the ball twice to take the game to half time. That is dedication to shortening the game and not making mistakes, and I hate it. 

I hear you. All the *ss whippings and Ls we've taken from them and other west teams, they've never done anything spectacular to do so. Either we were severely outcoached, underrecruited in critical spots (DL/OL/LB) or made backbreaking mistakes at the worst times(i.e. a game opening KO return for a TD). Because Nebraska doesn't want to conduct business like most of its west counterparts, which I'm personally ok with, they've been poor at being efficient offensively via playcalling or QB play to apply pressure on then for playing that way meaning they cant just sit on the ball. See Michigan vs Iowa in Indianapolis or OSU against Wisconsin most years. We just make it entirely easy for them to play the way they want and prefer.

30 minutes ago, Xmas32 said:

It's always been a bit funny to me that PJ Fleck is so high energy and 'rah rah rah' and his offense is so freaking boring.  Talk about a personality mismatch.

They do it to keep pace(and beat) with Wisconsin. Its smart in a sense that they can't recruit well enough to completely out athlete them but it goes back to what was said about being in the Big Ten west, the team that makes the least mistakes and can stop the run will be in great position to win the division. 

1 hour ago, Saunders said:

Bingo. The ethos of most of the Big West is to just not screw up. Nebraska has to stop beating itself to get out of this funk.

Ball control offense,  limit offensive possessions by the opposition by sitting on the ball, less man to man to prevent big plays due to the lack of backend speed, prioritizing field position. Agree 100%

4 hours ago, Saunders said:

The Athletic's preview is up.

Does it have an injury?

3 hours ago, Husker2326 said:

If they lose to Northwestern,  i really dont see Scott  having a job at the end of the season. Nebraska should  win this game as long as they dont beat themselves..

This has always been the case particularly against NW. There's always been untimely fumbles/INTs/ST errors that have allowed NW to keep the game close and win in some cases. Of the entire series since being in the Big Ten, only Nebraska has victories of 2 scores or more -'14 and '21. Those were due mostly to Nebraska's efficiency on offense.

2 hours ago, Decked said:

That is Mathis’s mother? 

Yes

21 hours ago, walksalone said:

I've been mulling over this for a couple days, and I'm not trying to start a debacle.

 

Frost's fifth season and he's never won more than 5 games. 

 

Heaven forbid we have another lackluster season, would winning 5 games, including beating OU, be enough to keep him around?

 

I think he's going to need to be at least .500, and not get the proverbial doors blown off in the losses.

 

Please pardon the meandering, but this has been vexing me for a while now..

There's a part of me feels that Frost will be back even with a 5-7 season. However, Trev and the powers that be could absolutely feel otherwise.

That said, I'm even weary of him coming back with a 6-6 year because with 4 years of no bowl we need to be past barely becoming bowl eligible. It also does zero for momentum and recruiting. You could convince me with a 7 win season along with a bowl win. 8 would be progress to me with this schedule. We absolutely need those games against NW, IU, RU and Purdue. Depending on if the silly mistakes and incompetence has gone away, I'd even give us a decent chance against OU with a beginner HC but Frost has lost to a rookie in Tucker so there's that.

1 hour ago, hskrfan4life said:

Man how did Purdue luck out.

Because they are Purdue. No one really cares to watch them play comparatively to other schools, hence the cake schedule. Also they lost rare talents for their standards in Karlaftis and Bell. 6-8 wins tops just hope one of them isn't against us.

3 hours ago, Mavric said:

Callahan says he previously thought Wynn was headed to Georgia Tech but now feels that Nebraska is the team to beat now.

A hunch that Tech may not be able to match up with NIL.

1 hour ago, Farms said:

Can't have enough good DL.  And how we sit now we're still only one injury away from being in bad shape imo..

Absolutely. Plus those last 4-5 games will need all the depth the team can get.

I feel the staff may be trying for two DL.

3 hours ago, Decked said:

The only people who say stars don’t matter are the fan bases of those schools not winning championships. Iowa & Wisconsin are the exceptions and not the norm. 

Even those two fall into that and have hard ceilings. 

1 hour ago, Decked said:

We shall see. I feel pretty confident that if both get on campus & we have the room they will be N. Brown being hurt has nothing to do with us recruiting Williams as he is a safety. Williams is also a long term guy to stabilize losses in losing high school guys to the portal for 3 years under this staff. And he’s a good ball player. 

Agree on Williams. Apparently Bama wasn't thrilled he's transferring.

38 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

 

I find this interesting.  I've always felt that the key to Wisconsin being so consistent and tough to beat is because of the offense with big/great O lines and the style offense they ran. Now, they think they need to remake their offense.  This has been that way since Alvarez was coaching and every coach has pretty much kept the same type of system.

 

Now, Alvarez is gone as AD.  I can't read the article to see what changes they are actually making.  But, this has the potential to screw up what has made them good.....if done wrong.

Agree that they have to be careful with how much they tweak things. If they get into the game of trying to recruit certain kids to accommodate their offense it could be tough sledding. The more they become like everyone else, the less of an edge they'll have.

I would have to see where this team is after the Illinois game. If we aren't bowl eligible by then, we probably won't be or barely get there. Those last 4 will be set by whatever happens those 1st 8 games.

18 minutes ago, Head Coach Scott Frost said:

I just watched the Texas vs TCU last year to see Thomson and him. I came away kinda disappointed.  He missed 3-4 tackles and another TCU defender, Dylan Horter actually looked better that game.  He also had an sportsmanlike penalty and the next play Thomson threw a pick throwing into triple coverage.   All in all Thomson did fine though. The game was also a disappointing reminder we lost JD.  The game ended in a texas win (puke) from a TCU breakdown that was reminiscent of Nebraska with a comedy of errors complete with a special teams gaffe, too many turnovers and a questionable targeting call.  

 

TLDR I'm glad we got him cause we're thin, but I don't think he's the Randy Gregory some are making him out to be.  

That would be wise. Gregory was a once in a generation freak. What you hope for is that Mathis provides enough attention to allow Nelson to increase his pass rushing production.