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4 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

I believe we actually played a lot of 4 man front this year.

We did. Needed to sooner against MN but overall yes.

11 hours ago, Cdn Blackshirt Two said:

I thought I read that we were potentially going to more 4-man fronts which could mean your DL coach [Dawson] now looks after (4) players on field, leaving only 2 or 3 LB's for (1) LB coach [Ruud], depending on if we're 4-3 or Nickel....

I could see that. Primarily because a 4 man front is more effective against nearly half of our schedule than a 3 man front is. When we aren't I could see Chins taking responsibility with Busch backing him up.

8 hours ago, seaofred92 said:

 

Kelly looking like Violet Beauregarde lol

14 hours ago, TGHusker said:

Oklahoma radio guys wondering out loud if Dabo and his DC go to Oklahoma

Doubt Dabo would leave Clemson for OU considering how easy he has it in the ACC. 

5 minutes ago, SECHusker said:

Really liked how we targeted the TE. That needs to be the offense going forward.

That was the one area I felt Wisconsin could be exploited. For the most part I liked what I saw there too.

4 hours ago, Xmas32 said:

Looks like it's up to 10 and the total has dropped from 45.5 to 42.  Gun to my head, I'd probably take the under.  Can easily see a 24-14 type game

No doubt. In all honesty I thought it'd be higher than this.

Huskers open as a 9.5 dog

1 hour ago, HuskerNation1 said:

 

I sure would like to know what metrics that Frost and Alberts mutually agreed to for next season. It sounds like if Frost meets them his salary goes back up to $5M a year in 2023 AND he gets one year added to his contract til 2027. I am not a fan of this approach IF the bar is set too low for next season. We all know the schedule is favorable so getting to 8 or 9 wins should be the minimum for Frost to get one year added to his contract. 

100% this

15 minutes ago, knapplc said:

I'm not worried about "who would want to come to a struggling program." Some assistants may not want to, but last time we were in this situation we got Bo Pelini, and he had an immediate turnaround for Solich's defense. 

 

Imagine if the defensive staff stays intact, and next year's defense is only slightly less good than this year. But at the same time we get an impact OC coach and the offense ramps up.

 

Ten wins, with that schedule, isn't out of the realm of possibilities in that scenario. 

Feel him being allowed a 5th season the benchmark should be 9-10 wins. Overall I'm most concerned with retaining Fisher and maybe Tuioti. I do think they'll land an impact portal transfer or two on defense that hopefully will help with the pass rush.

Retaining Frost will be a massive gamble by Nebraska and Trev. '22 recruiting is wash and I'm afraid '23 will suffer as well. There will have to be a high and hard benchmark, if Frost doesn't meet it he has to get cut. They will also have to nail the replacement staff if it comes to that. Very very uncertain times for this program. Very helpless feeling.

4 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:

I heard yesterday that Jim Pillen (NU Regent, also running for Nebraska governor) is pushing for Frost to stay. I know Regents like to throw their weight around, but I wish they would let the AD and University President do their jobs without interference. 

Regents...of course. They'll also be the ones that will block(or at least make it difficult) for adequate spending for a proper coach and staff.

1 minute ago, B.B. Hemingway said:

 

We'll see, but I think they'll be fine on the DLine. The biggest loss on the team is going to be JoJo Domann. Good luck replacing that guy.

I'm sort of here as well. I think there is enough that will mitigate DDs departure if it happens. I think Farmer will step in and they'll get something from the next guy. Newsome comes back and I think Clark or another DB will replace CTB just fine. I do worry about Jojo that will be a big loss.

9 minutes ago, funhusker said:

If Frost comes back, there has to be a minimum goal in year 5 for a chance at year 6.  Right?

 

Something along the lines of:

2-1 in non-con (Oklahoma will be tough...)

2-2 in games between Northwestern, Minnesota, Purdue, Illinois (at least!)

1-1 in Iowa and Wisconsin (at least)

2-1 in crossover games (Ind, Rutgers, Mich)

 

7-5 has to be a bare minimum next year.  And that is pretty disappointing...

 

I think 8 should be the minimum, borderline 9 with respect to divisional play. Doing so would suggest tangible progress and would justify an extension which would need to happen. If Frost is back anything less than 8 is cause for termination imo. 

Just now, BoNeyard said:

I could see Martinez announcing he is leaving and won't be returning next year, therefore giving Frost another year since people will say maybe things will be different without Martinez. Then I could see come February, when it's far too late to fire Frost and find a new coach, Martinez announces he is actually returning and Frost allows it.

 

 

Have full confidence this Adrian's last season at Nebraska.

24 minutes ago, White Flash said:

he would definitely go to lsu.  not sure if he's on their short list or not.

 

i think the ceiling at ole miss, given the area and competion, is lower than what it is at nebraska.

 

the right coach at nebraska could really be one upset away from going to the playoff some years.  no good reason we can't win a minimum 8 games a year and win the west at least half the time.

I'd be he's on the list but I feel Tucker will be the pick.  Agree on everything else as well. The right coach applies a healthy amount of pressure on the division and could recruit well enough in the areas the other teams in the west struggle to beat an east team in a one game scenario.

9 hours ago, chamrocck said:

What about Kyle Whitingham? Utah will hit you in the mouth! 

We blew that after we fired Bo. Had we not had an idiot AD, KW very much could've been our guy.

On 10/25/2021 at 7:02 AM, gobiggergoredder said:

I grew up in Omaha as did my parents.  I never even heard of cinnamon rolls with Chili until I got married.  It’s been 20 years and I still don’t get it.

 

House divided.  I have to make cinnamon rolls for the wife and cornbread for me.

Same for myself and my parents. All of my grandparents were from the south so there was no such thing as cinnamon rolls with Chilli. You ate Cinnamon rolls for a snack or maybe breakfast but Chilli is eaten with cornbread. Still to this day have not tried cinnamon rolls and Chilli, no rush to either.

20 hours ago, Enhance said:

In the last five years, Nebraska has had the best average recruiting rankings out of the entire Big 10 West and three of the seven teams in the East. So, by majority, they recruit better than nine other teams.

 

The problem is what happens when the players get here, so, it really comes down to how you define "talent." To a man, I would argue Nebraska has more talent than at least 8-9 other teams in the B1G. Recent coaches have simply proven incapable of developing that talent to produce a winning product. That doesn't mean the players aren't "talented."

 

That's why I don't generally like the whole 'ArE tHeY tAlEnTeD' discussion. Nebraska is a D1 school full of players that landed them top 20 and top 30 recruiting classes. They're good players, at least in the raw sense. They're a team that is MORE than capable of winning 8-9 games and competing for a division title. They've proven that in multiple games this year. Just not in the stat that matters most.

And this all while compiling a 16-28 those last five years. With no 10-2 record.

5 hours ago, Born N Bled Red said:

 

This is exactly the issue. 

 

Nebraska has better potential than most teams in the west. Not better available talent. Potential needs time to be maximized and mature into talent that is seen on the field. We do not have maximized and mature talent on the offensive side of the ball, we do have potential. 

This is it. Nebraska has the highest ceiling of all the teams in the division. It doesn't have the local talent pool that would make one jealous but it does have an overly loyal fanbase that puts up with mediocrity where every other school would tap out if they even had the same interest. Plenty of resources to fund a program and pay competitively(Regent pending). We've managed to average in the high teens/lower 20s in recruiting despite having a losing record the last 5 years, it'd be higher if there was a 2019 season Minnesota had or a division winning season Wisconsin has had. Our divisional counterparts haven't had to go up against the Huskers under stable circumstances while we've seen most others at or near their peak so it's not hard to feel a certain type of way.

17 minutes ago, HuskerNation1 said:

 

I think we are all saddened that Frost has not been able to do the job as we all believed in him when he started.  It frankly shocks me that we are paying for the 17th highest coaching salary in the country yet the results do not show.  Meanwhile, Brian Kelly, Mike Locksley and Jonathan Smith are 60 to 62, respectively, and have their teams playing decent.  Oregon State is actually tied for first in the Pac 12 North at the moment.

 

https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/football/coach

 

I know, for me, it's not so much the ROI on Frost but what we'd need to pay to attract a quality coach. Mainly because his and his predecessor's shortcomings. I had no idea Kelly was making as much as he is but unlike Nebraska, Notre Dame has the leverage we don't. If for whatever reason Notre Dame and Kelly decided to part ways, there'd be no shortage of very good to elite candidates lining up to interview. The other two are at places that don't have the expectations that come with being the head coach at Nebraska. I feel if Nebraska were to offer in the area of Patterson's salary we'd get someone that could get the job done.

11 hours ago, HuskerNation1 said:

 

Perhaps his ties to Nebraska are not important, but he is one of the only P5 coaches I know of that was born in Lincoln.  And as I shared earlier, navigating the BIG West is way easier than either SEC division.  He would have an easier route to CFP possibilities at Nebraska than Ole Miss. He actually took over for a predecessor who was 15-21 over 3 years (where Frosts predecessor was 19-19) and has Ole Miss looking strong in his 2nd season.

 

I agree Fickle is unlikely as he seems to want to stay near Ohio. I am open to some of your other names too...all would be an improvement from where we are.

Nebraska being in the West cannot be understated. A competent coach/staff would have this team in the top 15 and well in the thick of a division title. Honestly, if we were coached well we absolutely have the talent to beat everyone on in the West but here we are. Had Frost been better at his job and done this, he'd be looking at another extension imo. The next coach that wins the West will get paid handsomely because the program is so starved for that type of success.

We can say this or that coach won't come to Nebraska but I have yet to see Nebraska put together an aggressive deal; I don't consider Frost's initial deal one because they spread money out over several years. If the brass offers north of what Frost is making believe there will be quality coaches that would seriously listen.

About the division, a coach should look at the situation and feel pretty good about their prospects. Iowa, for as good as a season they are having, is benefiting from a soft schedule and hasn't proven they can put together back to back division winning seasons. Northwestern will always have to deal with academic restrictions that will limit their talent pool. Illinois will be up and down but steady. Minnesota will have to replace a lot after this year and I personally haven't been moved by Fleck's recruiting. Wisconsin, by virtue of their style, has a hard ceiling. They continue to struggle signing difference makers at skill positions (WR and QB - Mertz was gift which of it doesn't go well they can forget signing someone of his caliber out of HS while Chryst is there again) as well as defensive back. For as much as they've done, they are getting close to being "if they haven't done it by now, when are they going to"; They have a couple of more years imo.

Nebraska is still good job, not to be mistaken for a great job. There is not a team on our side of the ledger with the resources, fan support, right mixture of academics, media pull(Though they make fun of us they still bother to check for us and are waiting for us to be good again). Can't say none of this for any other program in the West. It's just sad Frost has fumbled this so badly.

Sorry if TLDR...

44 minutes ago, TherealTomOsborne said:

Lane Kiffen.  I've really enjoyed watching his offense today.  Defense looks solid and I also like that he was born in Lincoln.  He is only 46 years old with plenty of long term upside.  He is apart of the Saban coaching tree.  He also has been apart of a few championship teams in some capacity.  Overall I'd say he would be a solid hire and could get us bowl eligible quickly with a shot at higher level success.

Not sure of Alberts would consider him, and he's a bit of a character, but I'd throw whatever I could at him....Should there be a decision to move on of course. He'd be a really good hire imo. He'd spare no expense recruiting the best talent he can get, has a nice offensive scheme proving to be a very good offensive mind while having gone up against some of the beat coaches in CFB. Most years he will be out of the division race before it even begins at Ole Miss. At Nebraska, he'll have his chances more often than not. All said, it's not up to me obviously. Time will tell.

1 hour ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

Maybe everyone else knows who you're talking about, but I'm drawing a blank. 

 

David Shaw at Stanford?  He would have been perfect, but it's hard to imagine him leaving that set-up.

 

Gotta admit, I didn't hear many substantiated rumors at all in 2014, maybe because the 2004 post-Solich search went public and looked bad for the program. 

Shaw wasn't leaving Stanford.

Whittingham....Absolutely would've taken the job had we paid up. 

I say that because Utah ended up bumping up his salary to 2.6 million per year after there was communication with Nebraska. Riley started out at 2.9 million. I feel pretty confident if the brass would've offered north of 3 million he would've jumped. He's good with OL and and is a DL/LB guy at heart which is needed in the B1G. Where Riley is a QB centric coach as is Frost. Again I know there is the possibility that they didn't want to payout more than what they did to start Riley but Whittingham is now making the same per year as Frost he has a lot more to show for it. 

43 minutes ago, fwhuskerfan said:

Wittingham at Utah was my guess

Bingo