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2 hours ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

Well my point was that the AD's sole motivation wasn't finding the anti-Pelini, as they wouldn't have reached out to Beilema first, and while Mike Riley was famously nice, he actually did have a respected coaching profile, notching 8 bowl seasons at one of the historically worst programs in college football, winning Pac 12 Coach of the Year, out-coaching the likes of Pete Carroll and Jim Harbaugh, turning down USC and Alabama when they were interested in hiring him, and getting a reputation straight from Rivals for successfully recruiting to the Pac 12's least attractive school . When Nebraska hired Riley in 2014, he had just been voted second most underrated college coach by his head coaching peers. Former players and coaches sent their own sons to Nebraska to play for him. 

 

Riley failed and his firing was justified, but this notion that he was only hired because he was nice doesn't tell the story. In 2014, he just might have been the best coach who was willing to come here. 

Ok so maybe it wasn't solely about being a nice guy(Even though it played large factor) but based off of going after BB first as it is pointed out, you have to question how intentful the search actually was. It seemed like it was going to be a Wisconsin inspired hire, which may or may not have been the best approach. Eichorst spent almost the same amount of time in Wisconsin's Athletic Department as Bielema was the coach for the Badgers and as Chryst was BB's OC, who spent a bit of time under Riley. Riley also was highly recommended from Alvarez as well.

I can think of another Pac-12 HC that would've taken the Nebraska job after Bo was fired but wasn't offered enough money to pull the trigger. There was contact with the Athletic Dep. He uses a system that could've fit Armstrong (Dispite my disdain for him as a QB) and the other Pelini recruited talent much better than trying to implement a pro style offense. He also only had only 2 losing seasons out 10 up to that point with some 10 win seasons and a BCS bowl win. So to me money absolutely is a factor when in a coaching search and can be used accordingly to attract a quality coach with proven success, not based off an upset here or there with all due respect. It very well could've been that that's all they could afford but because of that we have been paying for it the last several years. Just my couple of cents.

On 9/27/2021 at 6:14 PM, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

The administration first reached out to Brett Beilema --- nobody's favorite nice guy -- and he turned us down. Mike was gone after 2.5 seasons, so being nice hardly saved him. 

 

We are tied only to the coaches who want to come here, and some Husker fans seem to think guys who are already wealthy and successful at P5 schools just need to be asked. 

True about Beliema but you have to wonder what sort of offer was on the table. My point was Nebraska, as we know,  comes with its set of challenges (and baggage) that one doesn't have to deal with at a place like Arkansas or Illinois and because of that you have to offer more, a lot more, than 4 million a year that BB was making at Arkansas. There are obvious jobs I wouldn't leave for a Nebraska program that is still unstable. Wanting to be somewhere is only as relevant to what you get in return with most jobs.

As for Riley,  Coaching or a profession in any industry,  the lack of results will get you fired no matter if you are the swellest person on the planet. 

6 minutes ago, FTW said:

But it doesn’t have to be that way. Programs fire coaches all the time when it’s not trending in the right direction. USC is in the same boat as us. Sounds like they might hire Eric Bieniemy. That’s a splash hire. Money talks. NU can hire anyone they want. Maybe Urban Meyer quits Jacksonville and he falls in our lap (lol).

This is where I'm at. Should a decision be made to move on from the current staff, Nebraska will absolutely be able to get a quality head coach and staff. They will just have to open the pocketbook (Probably overpaying but getting it right will pay itself back) and for the right price most will listen, just up to the brass to make it happen. They'd have new facilities, a massive yet passionate fanbase and a division that you'll be able out recruit most year; With the notion that they'd earn of lot of a goodwill if said coach won that same division, which you don't have to be spectacular to do so - If we were better coached we'd possibly be a top 15 team right now with a distinct possibility to win the West.

We ended up with Mike Riley because the administration tied itself to MR out the gate to be an anti Pelini.....and our AD was an idiot. 

6 hours ago, Otterpop said:

Michigan St is 3-0 and has played 3 bad teams. To me this a game we have to win to make a bowl game. I understand their better than last year but we got to have this game a win here and a win against Northwestern puts us at 4-2 with Michigan coming to Nebraska that would put us in a good spot to have a good season . By looking at stats we should be able to throw the ball on them . Hopefully line improves this week so we can run the ball better to set up play action. 

Agreed. This game will make or break the season imo

2 hours ago, Decked said:

Massive blow to them 

Hate to hear it but they aren't as dangerous without him. Really hurts their division titles hopes imo.

29 minutes ago, FrantzHardySwag said:

I think Whittingham is a damn good coach. But dude will be 62 in November and has been at Utah for the past 27 years. He aint leaving. He's a Utah Lifer.

Yep. The moment to hire him would've been after Pelini.

5 hours ago, DrinkinwitTerrellFarley said:

Yes, I like this idea.  His offense would fit too.  My only question is he has never been outside the South as far as I know.  If he has a good pool of money for assistants I think I would enjoy watching it work.

Uses a power spread that can attract skill. I have no desire to employ a pro style scheme. Plus his buyout is relatively low compared to what it would be at a P5 school. 

I don't believe he's ever been outside of the south but he could be OK with not dealing with the grind of the SEC. Plus the opportunity at Nebraska is just waiting for someone to step up. I think NIL could factor in too.

Long way to go but I absolutely think this would be the way to go.

3 hours ago, Cdog923 said:

Gus Malzahn. Or, f#&% it, let's go with Lane. 

I'd take either in a heartbeat.

51 minutes ago, Hedley Lamarr said:

Honestly saying crap like that only confirms what we have all said. He and his staff most notably offensively have no freaking clue what they are doing for the amount of money they are paid. 

Sad thing about it is the head man has leveraged his offense being the core of the program....and it's failing miserably.

After this press conference, I don't know how you come back from what was said. That was awful.

8 minutes ago, Dr. Strangelove said:

What, in your opinion, is currently trending in the right direction under Frost?

 

What do you see that warrants keeping him on for another season? 

Right. If you are seeing little to no improvement in minute details, what would a 5th year do to change this. It doesn't take 5 years to see even marginal improvements.

11 hours ago, teachercd said:

Gus

Malzahn

 

He will LOVE this job, s#!tty division and the only show in town.

 

This right here. He's used to dealing with a rabid fanbase, an administration/boosters that have high expectations(higher than ours) competing in the toughest division in college football with a juggernaut of a rival just a short drive away. All while never missing a bowl and winning that toughest division twice. By nature Nebraska will generally out recruit its west counterparts, so the biggest items will be getting the team to not beat itself and playing sound football. Gus, or anyone for that matter, comes it and wins a division, they will have built up so much goodwill that give them quite a bit of job security; In Gus' case he couldn't get even after what he did on the plains in Auburn.

That said, there still a full season to play out so everything will be what it will be. It's just that today was very inexcusable and completely preventable.

17 hours ago, runningblind said:

Iowa gets Rutgers, Maryland and Indiana that year so pencil them in as West champs.

Most likely

33 minutes ago, runningblind said:

We actually get a 2 year break in 22/23 from Ohio State before we get Michigan, Penn State and Ohio State all in 24, with Michigan, Penn State, Wisconsin and Iowa all on the road.

Yep. I think it starts a 6 year period with Michigan being the constant crossover from the east, with OSU being a part of the schedule some years like you mentioned. Wisconsin will get OSU for 6 straight years.

It's interesting you mention '24. Both Nebraska and Wisconsin have Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State. 

On 8/17/2021 at 11:42 AM, Hilltop said:

I would agree.  Wisconsin is still ahead of Iowa and will likely remain there until Iowa changes offensive philosophy.  I really wish Nebraska played Wisconsin earlier.  There is a good chance their offense has things rolling by the time we play them.  

They usually are peaking in the last 4th of the season. If they are actually a good team. Their OL has its chemistry down and they are settled in at RB if they have something. 

2 hours ago, hskrfan4life said:

Would love to see Coan beat Wiscy

I don't like playing Wisconsin so late either. Rather play them earlier in the conference season.

 

They usually start slow and are peaking toward the end of the season. Just because of how they are built.

This is why, as a team, you need to have adequate depth. Especially in the Front 7 ('12 CCG should be a reminder).

That said, they could be 1-2 for September with an important game with Michigan to begin October with conference standing implications.

2 hours ago, funhusker said:

I think expanding the playoff to 12 will help combat this.  Kids will see more opportunities than just OU, Alabama, OSU, Clemson, etc.

It's a reason Dabo is against expansion.

5 hours ago, Decked said:

Gonna be a tiny class. Think 13-16

Yep

Not stressing here. I was done with him once he blamed Nebraska fans as a reason he eliminated the Huskers. I get being turned off by a losing record on the field or wanting to experience something else but acting like we were the reason when it was clearly something else (ASU) was lame as hell.

He never seemed overly interested in a northern school sans OSU. 

1 hour ago, Hedley Lamarr said:

He seems to have solid vision and balance. Haven't been able to say that for awhile. It is really getting to the point of put up or shut up at the RB position. Held is supposed to be this ace recruiter etc. and our most productive RB has been a Riley recruit in Ozigbo. 

Completely agree

Not ready to vote but Louisville should be added.

3 hours ago, Toe said:

 

 

Seems he's looking forward to playing behind a decent line: "A feel good moment for Torres on the trip was getting a chance to meet some of the offensive linemen. One of the first he saw was the starting right tackle. 'One of the first guys I saw was Bryce Benhart, the right tackle. He's a big guy. I mean, he's a really big guy. He's like 6-foot-9. It's a good feeling to think about playing behind a guy like that.'"

Yep. If we compare the last San Antonio QB we signed, if you went off of his HS film, you saw a composed QB that completed many deep passes. What most didn't consider was that he played on a state championship caliber team (OL included) that masked a lot of his deficiencies as a passer. Whereas we see several clips of Torres making plays that the aforementioned QB struggle to make as a 5th year SR with a much less talented team.

Should we be fortunate enough to sign RT, it would nice get imho.

Tim Beck may continue to haunt us. Several years after he left our QB room a complete sh*tshow. He may have Morris leaning his way.

54 minutes ago, uberism said:

Staff must be really high on this kid. 

This is true.