Coaches, players or both?

Husker03 said:
The thing I don't ever understand about this take. Football is football. We are bad at football. Doesn't matter which conference we are in, the product we are putting on the field is bad. We would 'look" better in the Big12, but we wouldn't be any better. Why can't we just be good at football? There is nothing about Big10 football that doesn't fit with the culture of Nebraska. I hear all this, "We don't fit, we don't fit," stuff. We don't fit because we aren't good at football. We fit just fine in basketball, same as we always did in the Big12. We fit fine in volleyball, same as we always did in the Big12. We just don't "fit" in football because the old Big12 was a cakewalk and any of the top 70% of the current Big10 football teams could win the old Big 12 more often than not. That conference was soft. This conference punches you in the face every damn week and we don't like taking punches, so we cry about a lack of "fit."
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If the Big 12 was a cake walk, why was the last conference title in 1999? This would be also why Nebraska played in the Big 10 conference title game with Big 12 players in the starting first two years? I believe the bigger issue with leaving for the Big 10 has to do with recruiting the state of Texas. Very few Texas HS kids want to play in the cold in November and we don't schedule Texas's teams in the non-con. This is when the down cycle happened. We still don't have a base footprint to recruit. We lost California and Texas. We had California with Riley and we have not had Texas since Pelini. I thought Rhule had connections in Texas HS football? I thought he sold that pitch when hired.
 
Nebhawk said:
If the Big 12 was a cake walk, why was the last conference title in 1999? This would be also why Nebraska played in the Big 10 conference title game with Big 12 players in the starting first two years? I believe the bigger issue with leaving for the Big 10 has to do with recruiting the state of Texas. Very few Texas HS kids want to play in the cold in November and we don't schedule Texas's teams in the non-con. This is when the down cycle happened. We still don't have a base footprint to recruit. We lost California and Texas. We had California with Riley and we have not had Texas since Pelini. I thought Rhule had connections in Texas HS football? I thought he sold that pitch when hired.
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He did, but the one coach got in trouble and Rhule let him go before the 2023 season kicked in. Was supposed to be tied in with Texas HS football. Doogie McGuires dad was/is also a big name in Texas, but having a 22 year old WR coach didn't work out....I mean why wouldn't it......
 
If we can not establish a base in Texas for recruiting, we will never gain any traction. I say Texas, but even Ohio and or Pennsylvania for HS recruits. We should be getting 25% of our roster from Texas still or with in the footprint of big time recruiting states in the Big 10. Those are Ohio, Pennsylvania, Illinois, and California now.
 
We can't run the 3-3-5 with small D linemen. The nose needs to be 310-325 lbs. The other 2 can be 290 +/- range. Then a heavy mix of athletic backers. Preferably an athletic 245 lber like OSU's Arvell Reese. Maybe 2 of them and a speedier 225 or 235lber to pick up TE in coverage. OSU backers are big and fast.

Then triple the same group for backups. So 6 Van Poppels, 3 run stopping 320 lb nose, and 9 225-245 lb athletic LBs. Go.

Our secondary is good enough with that in front.
 
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lo country said:
He did, but the one coach got in trouble and Rhule let him go before the 2023 season kicked in. Was supposed to be tied in with Texas HS football. Doogie McGuires dad was/is also a big name in Texas, but having a 22 year old WR coach didn't work out....I mean why wouldn't it......
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That kid is now the RB coach at Texas Tech…their RBs have done really well this year…
 
FrankWheeler said:
That kid is now the RB coach at Texas Tech…their RBs have done really well this year…
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Spending $25-28 million on that class helped. Their boosters raised $49 million in a year. His dad is also the HC….. Matt Rhule also hired Joe at Baylor…. Maybe Rhule can identify coaches. Maybe he can be a good CEO. Under Joe 8-5, 7-6, 8-5, 11-1…. Looks like money can buy wins. 3 years of decent football and then a cash dump for the win.
 
BigRedBuster said:
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Uh oh, don't let Guy see this!!!

That will just add Compton to his #GrudgeList

This would not be so annoying if it wasn't for the crying b!^@h a$$ fans that need to be french kissed by the coach to feel good.

I will say it again, the coaches don't like us, none of them do, we are annoying.
 
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Nebhawk said:
If we can not establish a base in Texas for recruiting, we will never gain any traction. I say Texas, but even Ohio and or Pennsylvania for HS recruits. We should be getting 25% of our roster from Texas still or with in the footprint of big time recruiting states in the Big 10. Those are Ohio, Pennsylvania, Illinois, and California now.
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I agree with this and I will add another consequence of the move. Teams like the Goofers; Squawks and Clowns send their recruiters into our state more intensely now.
Cyclones have SIX kids from our state. Now I'm not saying they are future NFL draftees. But once upon a time those kids would've walked on and provided stellar depth.
 
I see people on here complaining about losing the Texas recruiting ground and wonder how you don’t realize you don’t even have the Nebraska recruiting ground any more? Look up the top 10 Nebraska high school recruiting prospects and see where they are going (hint - 6 are headed to Iowa State and one to Iowa). And before you say these guys aren’t talented enough to play at Nebraska, realize that at other schools they will have a chance to develop into better players. Ruhle has never developed any of his own recruits. He won at Baylor using Briles recruits. Same at Temple…this the imaginary “Third Year” success.
 
SuperBigFan69 said:
Uh oh, don't let Guy see this!!!
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How many football programs that Nebraska aspires to be would have fired Bo Pelini after 7 seasons based solely on his inability to get the team over the hump into conference and national relevance?

Available evidence say all of them.

Acting like the program has been helplessly crippled by actions taken 11 years ago by individuals long gone reeks of desperate excuse-making, not the reality of all those other programs enjoying dramatic turnarounds during that same time by firing and replacing coaches. A supernatural curse makes more sense than continuing to blame Eichorst and Perleman.

Can you honestly say that Nebraska fans are demanding too much of their coaches, much less the french kissing part?

Law of averages says Nebraska should have the chance to be Indiana or Vanderbilt or maybe even Arizona one of these years. That's the part that's hard to swallow.
 
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