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2010 Washington, 2010 Kansas State, 2010 Missouri, 2010 Oklahoma State, 2011 Ohio State, 2011 Michigan State, 2011 Penn State, 2012 Wisconsin, 2012 Northwestern, 2012 Michigan and 2012 Michigan State disagree with your assessment that he almost always under performed. None of those are big games. They were all conference games in which he had decent to good showing in each. The only big games TM participated in were 2 CCGs and 3 bowl games and he wasn't spectacular in none of them. 0-5

Not excusing Pelini's behavior but were things going our way against Ohio St. in 2011? Or Northwestern, Michigan State or Penn State last year? Or Northwestern, Michigan or Penn State this year? Oklahoma 2008, Missouri 2008, Texas Tech 2009, Iowa State 2009, Texas 2010, Oklahoma 2010, Wisconsin 2011, Michigan 2011, Northwestern 2011, South Carolina 2011, UCLA 2012, Ohio State 2012, Wisconsin II 2012, UCLA 2013, Minnesota 2013, Iowa 2013. Also, I could also use the hail mary to beat NW in 2013 as an example of a team meltdown. I agree that the team does show mental toughness at times, however, a t others they completely fall apart. Additionally, just because we came back some of those times for a win, does not mean there wasn't a team meltdown in the first place. Sometimes they regain their composure and rally to win. Other times they don't and it ends 70-31. Sorry, I just dismissed this whole post when I saw you suggest the NW hail mary as a team meltdown. I guess the pass catch to Ameer Abdullah in which he fought for extra yards on a 4th and long to keep the drive going to even set up a hail mary, was an example of the team throwing a fit and losing control......Wow........carry on

THIS. But some so called fans have their agenda and want people to believe that he is considered a loose canon and no body respects him. I think he's a raving lunatic who loses his cool when things don't go his way. Interestingly enough, it seems our team tends to lose it's collective cool when things don't go their way. Coincidence?? If that makes me a "so called fan" in your eyes.... oh well. If you think he's a raving lunatic then you obviously have never seen a raving lunatic. Sheltered life must have been nice growing up.

To be fair 78% is very close to 8 out of 10 people......just sayin'

THIS. But some so called fans have their agenda and want people to believe that he is considered a loose canon and no body respects him.

How is he a dick to the fans exactly? He may not be warm and fuzzy enough for some of you, but that's not being a dick. I'm not talking about an old scrap of audio when he was privately venting about the douches in the stadium that were booing his team at half time and didn't stick around for the come back. We've all had those moments venting about a friend, parent, child, spouse, boss, employee or whatever that we'd be ashamed of if they were recorded and played publicly. I've asked this before and still haven't gotten a meaningful answer. Aside from getting on his knees and kissing your ass at the coffee shop, what exactly do you expect him to do differently? Just be a better representative of the state. Whether or not you agree, no one likes Bo Pelini outside of Nebraska. No one wants to hire him, the local and national medias are against him. Bo is the only thing that people know about Nebraska right now. He has not done anything to me personally. I just want someone who gives us a positive perception from a national perspective. I do not think Bo is doing that. That's B.S. Your comment shows that you are speaking from your own opinion and not the perception of those on the outside of Nebraska. The way he runs the program is a great representation of "Nebraska". The dumb things that many fans complain about from Bo, I've seen much much worse from many Nebraskans in day to day life. My job takes me back and forth from Nebraska and Texas throughout the year and I have conversed with many fans of other programs and I honestly have yet to hold a conversation with more negative thing said about Pelini by any of them than I've hear from the some so-called Husker fans on message boards. Bo is no saint. That's never an argument, but he is a passionate man, who is passionate about his players, and want them to succeed on and off the field as much as their own parents would like them to. He is willing to step in the way of ridicule to defend each and every single one of them both right and wrong as well as get in their face about issues. I have yet to speak to someone whom has actually had a personal encounter with Pelini speak of him in any negative light. It's always the ignorance of those who simply feed off of the media's perception who try to be verbal about him not representing the Nebraska way. The day some sanction comes down on his program or the players openly begin to present themselves as less than respectful citizens, or the graduation rate on his team drops, etc......then I'll join the group suggesting that he isn't representing the state correctly. I am not some simpleton that believes everything that the media says. I guess the conversations that we are having are just totally different. Perhaps that is a reflection of our personal opinions in some way. For the people outside the state, they do not know anything about our graduation rates or Bo doing it the "right" way. They see the blowups, the blow outs, and the press conferences. I tend to think that perception does matter and at times there is some truth to it. I applaud Bo for his emphasis on life outside of football and education. Those are honorable things. You just don't see those things on the news because those kind of things are expected out of coaches. There is only a handful of coaches that I would place in the total scumbag category. The whole other part of it is that Bo's whole process is taking a long time and people, including myself, are getting restless. People got restless when Dr Tom could not beat Oklahoma, but that was his only hurdle. I think we have lots of issues to overcome and after 6 years we might only be half way there. I haven't seen a blow up from Pelini that you don't see at every other game throughout the Saturday in which are watching college football. Many try to pin this "bad guy" or "out of control" character on Pelini for the way he has responded to things that he don't agree with on the field. His response to many of the things I see him responding to, I can look across the bar or at the next table and see someone(s) responding the exact same way if not worse (one guy got put out DJ's Dugout after the same call that warranted Pelini a flag Friday). Pelini is a football coach, not a beautician. If you ask a passionate person a dumb question about a part of the game that he was less than pleased about while he is still in the element, then you should expect a sarcastic or less than pleasant response. There isn't a coach in college football whom hasn't gave a sarcastic remark to the media after asking a dumb question, including the coaches whom everyone considers elite, today. I remember during the 2011 season, I got tired of what I called the "Bo Cam"......I'll watch a game and hope for a replay or want to see the formation before the snap and I don't get it because the camera was always giving Pelini a close up after every call. If Pelini was half as bad as these babies complain him to be, personally, then you wouldn't see his players standing up and fighting for 4 qtrs for him. You wouldn't hear about the player's parent suggesting they should stop messing with the coach. You wouldn't hear his players saying that he made them a better man while he was in the program. You wouldn't have HS coaches willing to sway and urge their players to consider the Husker program during the recruiting process. The complaining is the biggest example of pure ignorance of the character of Bo. Did we all forget who hired the man. The "almight" Tom Osborne. He hired him over his good friend, ex-assistant, ex-All Everything QB Turner Gill whom no one is questioning his character. Pelini must be somewhat of a great guy to his players, his staff, the recruits, their parents, and even the fans whom he encounters with. Is their a fan whom has came out and said he or she met Pelini and he rubbed them the wrong way......... As far as Pelini's process, I agree, it is taking much longer than we would like but I would like to point out that OU was not Osborne's only hurdle, which took 8-10 years to overcome. He was continuously ridiculed for not winning a NT. Did we forget that his teams were on a 7 post game losing streak before giving him is first national title. That was 23 years as an HC at a program that had facilities that only 10% of programs during that time could even be compared to. Today we are calling for the job of a first time HC whom has manage to do what only 4 other HCs have been able to do, which is the 9+ wins for 5 (maybe 6 seasons). He was .01 from a conference title arriving at the first BCS bowl in almost a decade, after his 2nd year as a head coach. That shows me what he can do when he has the proper talent to run his system. Not if only he can get the right coaches to assist him (my personal opinion).

How do you know for sure that he hadn't talked to Bo about his position already. Bo is a smart man. If he actually felt like his job was in danger of disappearing, I would think that he would have atleast entertained some calls at other places, even if it's the NFL. HIs reaction last week looked more of a guy whom is frustrated with not winning the games he feels his team is capable of winning. No one is more disappointed with coming up short than the team and staff whom actually work throughout the year to get better and prepare themselves for every match up during the season. For some reason, a lot of fans whom snatch the closest beer to them and a plate of wings, feel like their passion is much stronger than the guys on the field/sideline.

Yea, like Osborne/Devaney.....

How is he a dick to the fans exactly? He may not be warm and fuzzy enough for some of you, but that's not being a dick. I'm not talking about an old scrap of audio when he was privately venting about the douches in the stadium that were booing his team at half time and didn't stick around for the come back. We've all had those moments venting about a friend, parent, child, spouse, boss, employee or whatever that we'd be ashamed of if they were recorded and played publicly. I've asked this before and still haven't gotten a meaningful answer. Aside from getting on his knees and kissing your ass at the coffee shop, what exactly do you expect him to do differently? Just be a better representative of the state. Whether or not you agree, no one likes Bo Pelini outside of Nebraska. No one wants to hire him, the local and national medias are against him. Bo is the only thing that people know about Nebraska right now. He has not done anything to me personally. I just want someone who gives us a positive perception from a national perspective. I do not think Bo is doing that. That's B.S. Your comment shows that you are speaking from your own opinion and not the perception of those on the outside of Nebraska. The way he runs the program is a great representation of "Nebraska". The dumb things that many fans complain about from Bo, I've seen much much worse from many Nebraskans in day to day life. My job takes me back and forth from Nebraska and Texas throughout the year and I have conversed with many fans of other programs and I honestly have yet to hold a conversation with more negative thing said about Pelini by any of them than I've hear from the some so-called Husker fans on message boards. Bo is no saint. That's never an argument, but he is a passionate man, who is passionate about his players, and want them to succeed on and off the field as much as their own parents would like them to. He is willing to step in the way of ridicule to defend each and every single one of them both right and wrong as well as get in their face about issues. I have yet to speak to someone whom has actually had a personal encounter with Pelini speak of him in any negative light. It's always the ignorance of those who simply feed off of the media's perception who try to be verbal about him not representing the Nebraska way. The day some sanction comes down on his program or the players openly begin to present themselves as less than respectful citizens, or the graduation rate on his team drops, etc......then I'll join the group suggesting that he isn't representing the state correctly.

I am completely with you. Miles makes the fans feel like they are part of the program and they are needed to win games. Bo makes the fans feel like they are an obstacle to winning. The fans become a part the atmosphere in a game that sometimes can come down to momentum. No the fans aren't the cause of losses or are "obstacles" to winning but they aren't helping the team if they are doing anything other cheering or supporting the team. Nagging and complaining is fine and the right of every man when they don't agree with something, but some of the things that occur from the "Greatest Fans" towards the program they claim they love is down right pathetic.

Bo's responsibility is the team and the program he is paid to be over. No where in his contract says that he has to be cuddly to the fans. Especially since those fans can be as bi-polar as his actions are when responding to them. We as fans pay for the team to entertain us. Nothing more. We do not sign his checks. The since of entitlement is quite comical, IMO.

Hey, Taylor fought like a warrior. No bones about that. However, after he lost to Texas his freshman year, he was nothing. Yeah, he had some good comebacks against average teams, but always disappeared when the callber of opponent was higher. So your going to say Taylor was nothing after the Texas Game Freshman year? 2010: #14 OSU- 23/35 for 323 yards, 19 carries for 112 yards #6 Missouri- 6/9 for 115 yards, Ankle Injury this game and really was immobile, still won us the biggest game during conference play (excluding CCG) The rest of this season didn't look good for him, because of that injury, and honestly, he should have never been on the field. Hard to bash on a kid when he played, even when he shouldn't have been due to his injury. 2011: Again, still lingering injury all season, and hindered his performance. tOSU- 16/22 for 191 yards, 17 carries for 102. (To remind you, this is a game where many of this fan base thought we were going to lose, and the media) #11 MSU- 7/13 for 80 yards, Again played through an injury and called a great game and adjusted accordingly to the "best" defense in the BIG. #12 PSU- Stats weren't great, but again, he was injured, and still carried us past a ranked PSU team. 2012- Healthiest Martinez we have seen all year, close to being 100% as he physically could be. UCLA- 17/31 for 179 yards and 1 INT, 13 carries for 112 yards. We lost this game because of defense. Allowed 653 yards of offense. Hard to blame Tmart. WI (pt1)- 17/29 181 yards and 0 INT, 13 carries, 107 yards. Underdog and we won. #22 UM- Stats weren't great, IIRC he was injured midway though the game. 14/24 for 166 yards, 14 carries for 58 yards. We pulled out the W as an underdog. WI (pt2)- 17/33 for 184 yards, 19 carries for 140 yards. I think we can agree that the defense was the reason we lost this one as well with 640 yards allowed. 2013: Pretty much injured midway through the Wyoming game. 1.5 seasons this kid has been healthy in 4 active years.I fail to see how he disappeared against a higher caliber team, unless you count Nebraska playing him when he was litterally 50% healthy, if that. Had we had a defense in some of those losses, where he did enough where we should have won, there would be a different tune being sung. I agree that Martinez was still a good weapon after the Texas game in 2010 but a couple of the examples you give are slightly flawed as examples to prove that point. 2010 vs Missouri.......Yes he was 6/9 for 112 yards, but that was because he was getting stomped every time he tried to run the ball. He had 12 attempts for 16 yards (1.3 ypc). That game was won because of the amazing performance that Roy Helu was having. The Tigers knew that if they blinked at the wrong time, Helu was running another 60 yard TD. This allow Martinez to dump off or throw some slants in the first half to create a little passing game for the Huskers. 2011....Martinez was healthy enough to play and compete. No need to say he was "lingering" in order to provide an excuse for him not being as explosive as he was early in his freshman season. No injury "hindered" his production. No one is going to have a 874 yard rushing season with a "lingering" injury to their ankle. Martinez's rushing attack was altered in the 2011(& 2012) seasons due to Green/Lee no longer being apart of the roster. Carnes never really got it together between the ears and Kellogg didn't show he was anymore comfortable in 2012. So Martinez practically played with no back up. We needed him healthy. Also, just like another poster suggested that you can't blame Martinez for many losses vs these rank teams, in that same stance, you can't give him sole credit for the wins either. The game vs MSU in 2011 was won off defense. If you hold a team to 187 yards total, then you win that game more times than not. And again, Martinez had NO INJURY that kept him from competing at any point of the 2012 season including the Michigan game. If that were the case, he would have been held out of practice or atleast a drill at some point throughout the season, which did no happen. 2013, Martinez was not injure in the Wyo game nor So Miss. TM just wasn't playing with a sense of urgency. Maybe he was thinking ahead to the UCLA game. A game in which he looked forward to playing since he was a freshman as he said before the first meeting in Pasadena the previous year. Martinez came out firing in the UCLA game this season. Showed a level of competitiveness that he did show vs Wyo & So Miss. He had to have been injured or mentally whipped somewhere in the 2nd quarter, because after the last scoring drive, his composure totally changed.

SJB over Dennard? Can you imaging a DL w/ Gregory, Crick, Suh and Martin? Dear God. Crick & Suh is scarey alone. Add Gregory & Martin off the edge, you would never need to blitz. Denard & Amukumara with Hagg & Gomes was poetry on the field. David or Dillard on the second level.....wow.

Back ups in ( ) QB - Joe Ganz (T.Martinez) RB - Roy Helu (A.Abdullah) FB - T.Legate (C.J.Zimmerman) WR - K.Bell (N.Paul) WR - Q.Eunuwa (N.Swift) TE - K.Reed (M.McNeil) LT - Lydon Murtha (Yoshi) LG - K.Williams (H.Choi) C - C.Pensick (M.Caputo) RG - M.Slauson (R.Henry) RT - j.Sirles (M. Jones) RE - R.Gregory (E.Martin) DT - N.Suh (Ty Steinkuhler) DT - J.Crick (A.Moss) LE - B.Turner (C.Meredith) SLB - Z.Anderson (D.Santos) MLB - P.Dillard (W.Compton) WLB - L.David (M.May) FS - M.O'Hanlon (A.Cassidy) SS - L.Asante (D.Gomes) CB - A.Denard (SJB) CB - P.Amukumara (J.Mitchell) -------nickel back - E.Hagg (C.Evans) PK - A.Henry (A.Kunalic) P - A.Henry (B.Maher) KR - N.Paul (K.Bell) - A.Abdullah (T.Marlowe) PR - N.Paul (A.Abdullah) P.S. It was hard for me not to put Rex in the top two at the RB but I feel like R.Helu and A.Abdullah are slightly better backs. No knock on Superman one bit.