Nebhawk

When a defense gives its offense short fields, 2 INT's, and we can't muster a single touchdown, then yeah, our defense can't do anymore. First half was a bad defensive half, but we were still in the game. They came out at half and made some adjustments, they got stopps, they gave us turnovers. The offense did not provide any spark. WE had to know that at some point our Defense would not show up for whole game or half. This has been coming. We blew to many chnace this season already.

If as an offense, I can't gain one inch on 2 plays, then I am blowing stuff up. I don't care. Either new lineman or different QB or different style ( no more shotgun). Why are we just content with our current play on O-lline. I would play all freshmen at this point ! That lost the game. WE did not need a kicker to win this game. We needed an offense. We needed play calling.......we needed basic football to take over once. If our offense can't gain short yardage, we can't win in the Big 10. We don't belong.

Its time to hit the reset button. WE better see some roster moves. Yant deserves better. Manning deserves better. Betts deserves better. OUR DEFENSE , wow, they are giving all they have right now. Our tight ends deserve better. I don't see us making a bowl game now. I am ok with shaking things up. I am ok with doing things differently. This roster isnt good enough to win right now, why in the world would it be any better next season. I don't know why we are not recruiting more top end talent for next season. Were content with keeping the same players for one more season. Just doesn't make sense.

Total loss for words right now other than blow it up and start all over. Frost can stay if he makes wholesale changes on offense and special teams. Find an actual offense other than playground circus style. I am not sure Frost needs to come back, but I know we wiould owe him $millions and don't see us ponying up that cash right now.

I am questioning everything now. Minnesota actually looks like a better team than Michigan ST, better offense line than Michigan. Our team needs this bye week. Need to make some decisions. Smothers or whomever is next needs some reps. If I were Yant I would transfer to Minnesota or K-St. He would get his due. Manning and Betts should leave as well. Its going to take that for this staff to change its ways and positions.

Thats on Amart. Do anything but what he did there. Run it ahead for a net loss, but have a chance on 2nd down.............sums up our team

Speechless

We just can't get over the hump. Our defense showed up this half, but our offense is a no show once again. When our defense decides its done, were won't even sniff a close game the rest of the season. I see one win left(Purdue). Wisconsins D will eat our lunch. They are top 15 defense. Iowa will lay a beat down on us. Ohio St might be playing better than anyone right now, so guess that final score!

Gameover. Martinez era is almost over for me as well. Can't throw it thru people, so stupid. For everything is does well, doubles it in bad. Time to cut your losses and play for next season if we lose this game. time to get SMothers some reps. We are not going to a bowl game. Play for next season.

This game is not on our kicker. This game is on our offense and the line play. WE shouldn't have to depend on a kicker to win games when we can't knock it in from the one inch line for a TD.

Do or die time fellas!

I don't say this just to say this: Frost in my opinion has a few games left to define his career. He has a few games left to do something other than losing. Writing is on the wall. Win or else. I have tried to be positive thru out his time here so far, but we are not competing today. If we were competing, and still down at half, I would not care as much. This team came out flat and looks tired and complacent. i remember these seasons in the past when our teams started looking like this. 2007, 2014, and 2017. Coaches got fired, team just stopped playing to win. If I don't see more in the second half today, this is where were headed. I hope i am wrong. I hope we come back and at least have a chance to win. I hope that AM has not lost this team. I hope that we are still willing to fight.

What do we know at this point? ARe we sure that Michigan St and Michigan are top 10 teams? Are we sure that OU is a top 5 team? I am wondering if we really have turned the corner? Minnesota is bigger up front than anyone else we have played so far. They bullying us all over the field. We look like a Jr high team at this moment. Whats worse is that we are allowing ourselves to play down to this level on both sides of the ball.

This team reminds me of 2017 right now. It almost looks like our players have quit. Plain just quit.....so far. If we don't start recruiting Big 10 athletes on both sides of the ball we won't sustain any level of success. Mainly we are not getting lineman on either side of the ball. We have to get offensive lineman. WE don't compare to other Big 10 teams up front. WE all know that in the 80's and 90's we had nothing if not for offensive and defensive lines. Until we get better up front, we will not compete week in and week out.

Sick of watching this. Just done with our scheme, our approach. First time I have said this, but I don't know if Frost can get out of his own way. We have have Yant, who is a bulldozer, but we won't play him because he makes mistakes. So what, let him play his way out of those mistakes.

They are more physical, has nothing to do with recruiting stars next to names. Has to do with what type of player you recruit to your system. We have been getting over inflated recruits by stars, for years. LIsten to SEan Callahan and others who know this, and say this. SOme of our recruits were 3 star recruits, and then, we sign them and they are considered a 4 star. Stop with the recruiting buzz when comparing teams in the Big 10. Look at whats on the field. Minnesota has bulldozers up front on both sides of the ball, while we have skid loaders.

Honestly........this game is hard to make any judgements going forward. I think we looked ok, but not dominantating. I don't know what to think........ It would be different right now if Illinois didin't look so inept since we played. WE won, which is the main thing.

So far Oregon is having its way with THE BUCKEYES

THe sad thing about this is if the playoffs do expand, someone from the Big 12 will play for a national title way before we still do. Chew on that for a while.

Rutgers to Nebraska isn't alot different than some of those games in the New Big 12 as far as traveling goes. College football is not ever going to be the same. Thats the world we live in. I wished we never left the Big 12 for what we have now. Sure, the new Big 12 won't have an immediate name, but they have some that can do some damage. I mean the league didn't fold when we left did it?

I am sure everyone has varying opinions about the move by the Big 12. I however think that its a decent move for them considering they have enough clout without OU and Texas to keep there Power 5 status. Its in the NCAA bylaws. First off, if and when the playoffs expand, to a 12 team system, it won't matter much. Second, right now the SEC isn't looked at very nicely by the others and thats good to hear. Third, When Saban retires, the SEC won't have the dominate team and league. SEC has rode the coattails of Bama and its greatness. There won't be 3 deep NFL players at Bama. Those players will be spread out through the nation once again leading to more parity. ESPN and CBS doesn't want to hear that, but its like everything else, its cyclical. Will the Big 12 be actually relevant? Not really unless they schedule games against other P5 conferences. Will that happen? I think so, but depends on how things are looked at by others. Will ESPN push for the SEC more once these things happen, yes. I think the Cincy and Houston additions are huge media markets to have if I am the New Big 12, and adding BYU is a national brand, and UCF is including the state of FLorida. Not bad in my opinion. Maybe we should go back and rejoin now. No Texas makes this way more appealing for now. We know that this era of realignment isn't over yet, but this might subside things for another 10 years. Once the SEC is no longer the power, they might have teams running for the next best thing.

Illinois might win the west!

Did what needed done today. Can't say this was a good win, but it was a needed win for a program that has some issues. I will however point out in the first half we couldn't get our receivers open against an FCS school. First half is the only half that I am looking at right now because lets be honest, Fordham ran out of gas and the second half doesn't matter as much in my opinion.

I would be in on Klieman in a moments notice. He has kept KSU going after replacing Snyder. No question. The next guy would be maybe Fuente, but need to see more this season. It has to be someone who can build a Big 10 roster. It starts with building an offensive and defensive line. With saying all of this, I still want Frost to succeed. If, and its a big IF, they would go to NOrman and win, then this loss wouldn't seem so big. Gain some momentum, and see what happens the rest of the way.

Saban wouldn't come here for 15mil a season! In fact he would take a pay cut to stay at Alabama. If he would come here, it would be just for the money and thats it. So far we have thrown some money around and gotten nothing. This position has been open now 4 times with no one wanting this job. No one of value and or name. Frost is the biggest name we have hired since we fired Solich. Saban has a NFL roster at Bama. He doesn't have to leave his house to recruit, just makes a phone call, its done deal! He doesn't have to spend time on the road doing anything he doesn't want to. He would not leave that for a job where your going to have to be on the ground searching for players and coaches to follow him here. We were Bama at one point, but were so far away now, it almost hurts. Reality. It sucks that we suck, but its reality. If we can't find a coach who wants this job, how in the world do we find players who want to play here?