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Time will tell. Rhule has to recruit better than anyone else since T.O. in order to get things going again. Recruit and develop.

My hot take is rather simple and obvious: SEC is going to keep dominating the college playoffs. The other conferences are not even close to challenging right now. Bama should have been one of the playoff teams this season. They are better than most teams, even in losing 2 conference games this season by a slim margin. My preseason top 10: 1. Georgia 2. Bama 3. Tennessee 4. USC 5. Clemson 6. Ohio ST 7. Michigan 8 LSU 9. NOtre Dame 10. TCU Expect a SEC team to win. BAMA or Georgia, but don't sleep on LSU.

Completely agree. I do think that parity will take place in a few years once the 12 team format gets going. I still think that the SEC will get more teams into the playoff each season( Media bias) and the fact that they just have better talent right now. OU and Texas will challenge the bag men in the SEC. They have cash. They will compete for recruits with Georgia and Bama. I hope that they have a rule where all conference champs go to the playoffs. P-5 conferences at least. This at least allow for some other schools to at least get a shot and hope they start soon as the regular season is over. No layoffs.Just like basketball. If you have injuries, so be it.

BCS never got it wrong--Nebraska vs Miami? USC vs OU? OU vs LSU- none of these games were ever competitive. BCS did get it right sometimes, but not always. Close wins, hum, we had a few a close win at Mizzou in order to win the Natty. Close wins teach teams and players how to win under pressure. The 12 team playoff will be a good thing. The only negative that I can actually think of is injuries, team that are beat up after the regular season and lose because of attrition, not talent or scheme. This will be school like TCU, K-ST, Ohio ST and maybe Michigan. Georgia, BAma, and Clemson most seasons have more depth at key positions. Bama will benefit from a playoff with more teams. After watching yesterdays games, for sure they were one of the top 4 teams in the country at the end of the season. SEC dominance is real, and I don't see it leveling out anytime soon.

Lets hear how the Big 10 is so much better than the Big 12.....................More physical? Better run games? Better coaching? I would say that TCU just checked all the boxes in that game..............I do give the Ohio St Buckeyes a 25% chance to win this game, but its going to take a different level of play than they have played all season in the Big 10 I feel for AMart some, but does anyone know if he is 100%? Maybe those few plays he ran was enough and he wasn't fully ready...........Shows actually how far down we have gotten when our 4 year starter goes to KSU and can't hold the starting job.....injury or not...........

Who is gods creation thinks that we can "grab coordinators" from other schools that are high profile? We didn't hire a sitting coach first off, and secondly, if we couldn't hire big name as HC, who would think we could hire big name coordinators? Trev surely has told Rhule every facet and area that needs an upgrade already. Rhule knows that this job is an overhaul. This hire has some question marks, sure, but to think that no one from the Carolina Panthers is qualified to lead young men onto a football field are being rather negative, just to be negative at this point.

Exactly. I am sure that Fickells agent was contacted, and they turned down any kind of interview or discussion. Like I said on a different thread, we will never know who was asked and who declined even and interview at this point. What we do know is that we made a few coaches more money along the way.

Just wanted to put this out there, but how does the people of Oklahoma feel right now? Your old coach is going to lead USC more likely into the CFP. I guess that this says that if your thinking about leaving your conference, maybe consult with your HC first. I don't feel a bit sorry for OU and Texas going forward. They just sealed there fate. Venables is also already on the hot seat, maybe he should have stayed put at Clemson as well. Greed that Texas and OU have is so ridiculous it is funny. Reminds of another school..........lets hope for traditions sake they don't encounter the same things we did by joining a conference that really doesn't want you, but will take your name and money. Riley is a really good coach, with a scheme that works where ever he goes. USC is going to be around for awhile now. they might have just replaced Clemson and OU as a title contender each season. Welcome to the Big 10!

Anytime you add the human element, anything is possible. I just wonder if parting ways now would be the best thing for both sides. Palmer immediatly announced we was gong pro.......that says something about things right there. For those on this roster that are open minded, this hire will work out well. For those who wanted Mickey and want leave, it will work out well for them as well, some where else. I will stand by the fact that our roster is not that great. They have no leverage in this right now. We don't have a roster full of all-pro's. So whom ever leaves, thats fine. For those who stay, I think they will be rewarded in the future.

Absolutely agree with 100%. I think its time to separate and go on our own ways now. With the above twitter, even if its nothing, where there is smoke, usually there is fire.

Please leave race out of this conversation. No one knows if that had anything to do with this hiring process. Mickey had a chance to win at least two more games, and the same mistakes were made. If he were HC material, we would have won against MInny and WIsky, even if that meant taking over the play calling from Whipple. Things didn't happen that needed to happen. I lobbied for him early, but the longer the season went on, it was noticable that he didn't have the pedigree for the job at this point. I will give anyone the fact that this was not his team or staff, but you still were in position to win 2 games that you didn't. Let Mickey leave or stay, but please don't pull out the race card.

We finally have a head coach, and we are not happy with him? Mickey might have done ok, but odds are he just doesn't have enough......not a coordinator, just a WR coach. If Mickey would have had some coordinator experience, that might have mattered some. Anyway, its all a mute point now. Rhule is not Urban, but is Urban, Urban now?

8 Year contract is interesting. So does Trev think its going to take 5 years to build this program to where it should be and the other 3 to win a division? My guess is that Rhule said he was not going to take this gig for less than. Need some security with money and years. If he stays all 8 years that will say alot about this hire. Watch Penn St come open next season................it is what it is at this point!

If we are who we think we are yet, Rhule should get good recruits in here. If we use our NIL money right, and entice players enough, we will get recruits. Not worried about recruiting this season. More worried about getting transfers thru the portal. Recruiting will pay off 3 years from now, but if we are going to compete next season and the season after that, we need portal players. Last time I looked, I didnt see very many linemen in the portal yet. Funny season is just around the corner, so be prepared for alot of names to come out of the wood work!

So what, who cares about recruiting rankings............the last time I looked neither KU or KSU have ever had Top 15 recruiting classes and right now they are winning and beating ranked teams.....in a tougher conference this year. Developing talent is the top priority. Recruit what we need, build what we want. We need lineman now. We need good linemen now. The rest will take of itself. I truly believe that Rhule will at least win the games were suppose to win. My next question is do we start recruiting Texas again? Rhule has connections in Texas and relationships, does he use them? Can he recruit Pennsylvania yet? Where do we see our recruiting coming from right now? Do we get any Baylor players to transfer for there 5th year?

Mickey should be thanked for what he did do, but he didn't do anything that was spectacular. He led a group of young men. He was left with a mess, and did his best to correct some issues that have plagued this program for 5+ seasons. I think if anything he showed us just how far out of touch Frosty was with the Big 10 and Big 10 football. Beyond that, he didn't improve this team that much if your looking at the numbers. 4 wins was nice, but would've and could've says this team should have won 6 games this season. Same issues that were present with Frost were still present with Mickey. We found ways to lose games late. Its time for a new sheriff in town.

Is this the hire that most people wanted? I don't think its the flashy hire we all wanted, but its the guy who wants the job right now. This shows that we are not the sexy of a job, and this guy has rebuilt teams from nothing into something. I am good with this hire. This is the guy who restarted Baylor, not Aranda. Rhule has success, and runs the ball, power scheme wise. He also gets big QB's who can run some, not featherweights like Casey. I don't know if we have a QB on this roster who can run his offense the way he wants it. We may never really know how many coaches turned us down, but I have to think Rhule was not our first choice. If he was our first choice, great, we got the guy Trev wanted.

I think our expectations should be realistic, but yet if the guy can coach and recruit, even decently this year, we should win 5 games next season. Big 10 West is the worst division in all of college football. Iowa is going downhill, Wisky is in trouble even with keeping Leonard, Minny is going to be Minny, but they don't scare me, Purdue is going to have a different team next season, so to think that we can't compete right out of the gate is also not right mentality. I don't expect a Big 10 champion next season, but I do expect to see improvement in record and team play. We are as far down as we have ever been. I don't think massive improvement is asking alot, right now. We could massive improve and still only win 4-5 games next season......but I think now is the time to do this. Now is the time to get a new coach in here and see what we can do. Rhule is going to have to work is rear off to get recruits in here, and even flipping some from other schools........no one is off the table at this point. Its the start of a new ERA.........I am excited!

Need a TD now.........this game might be over before Halftime with a TD.!

Yes, that would be a good idea. Don't know why this game is bothering me, been watching this same slide show now for 8 years. Won't change my thoughts, play to win the damn game!

On some seasons I would agree, but we are playing for nothing at all.....nothing. This will be alot of our guys last game no matter, freakin play to win and win big. This is a clown show now. Desire, where is it? Willing to do whatever to win this game. Don't like a losing mentality, and thats all we have left over from the last 3 coaches.

Iowa can not go 95 yards on offense. I would have gone for that one no matter what. Tired of this clown show in Lincoln.

You go for that when your a 3-8 team...........3 points are nothing! Mickey has thrown in the towel as well. He knows that the next man up is being named soon and, well just here to finish the season now.

Run that play, every play the rest of the game!

Wow, Iowa's O is terrible. They could run the ball at will on us, but are Whippling it right now!