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It wouldn’t surprise me if all these commitments stick, there will be some threes changing to fours, meaning a higher ranking. By the way, Smothers committed.

I’m as excited about this kid as Nick Henrich. We have found a diamond in the rough here. I love that Frost recognizes talent. You wonder if Riley would had ignored him, and he went to Iowa. I suspect Noah Fant would had been N with Frost and staff. That was a big miss.

Hey Hedley, I agree with what you are saying here. Can you please expand more on your reply to my last comment? As I said, Wisconsin has done wonders with recruiting classes that have been outside of the top 25. But with that said, they came up a little bit short — but not by a lot as you saw they were fast enough against Miami — with a little less speed on the edge against OSU. Wisconsin is not slow on defense but not quite fast enough against that explosive OSU offense. With that slight disadvantage and an inconsistent QB who had a not-so-good game against OSU, Wisconsin only lost by one touchdown and had the last possession I believe. As long as the Badgers continue the same path in recruiting but add a little more speed on the outside on defense, they could make it some year to the final four. Plus, they have a hot QB commitment who will probably be better than Hornibrook. To me Frost’s recruiting is somewhat like Osborne’s, except online recruiting has changed the game some. I have confidence that Frost is only offering very talented prospects who fit his system. And it’s a mixture of three stars, four stars and a few fives. So because in recruiting it’s first come and first serve, there will be years where Frost will get more three stars than fours, as the three stars commit first. Another year that could reverse. So, for example, one year we could have an 18th ranking and another year it could be 7th. But I have confidence that either class would have great talent. Sorry for the long reply.

What do you think of Wisconsin’s success in recruiting? They seem to always be ranked outside of the top 25, yet that team last year was very good. The Corn seems to always be ahead of them in the recruiting rankings. The only thing I saw that was slightly missing in WI, was speed on the edge against OSU’s speedy offense. And they had an inconsistent QB. Yet they handled Miami, and we know the Hurricanes were not slow. So I see a good argument on both sides of Husker recruiting.

Frost does not pay attention to these rankings — at least not very much. As long as he gets the players he wants that fit his system, I will be satisfied that he has gotten great classes. One year it may be ranked #19, and another year it may be ranked #4. Take, for example, of the DBs Frost had gotten in the 2018 class. He sees them as four or five stars. He has said he had gotten one of the best group of dbs in the country. I will take Frost’s word more than the recruiting services. Of course the best determination will be how they do in two or three years.

I brought up this question because some fans believe to get back into the NC race, we consistently will have to have top 10 or top five recruiting classes. TO in his later years proved that he could develop three and four stars into fours and fives. Frost certainly will go after overlooked players who are under the radar and who he feels can be potentially just as good and fits his system, in addition to the ones who are rated high by the services. Thus we may end up with great classes — hopefully — that are rated anywhere from 20th to 5th. I’m not seeing us getting consistent top 10 classes simply because of Frost finding diamonds in the rough. Let’s hope he is that good in finding talent.

Good point. Saban, because of the great talent he has, doesn’t have to do as much development perhaps as Frost. Thus it wouldn’t surprise me if Saban is not as good at developing players as some others. Wisconsin is an example of what you are talking about. Osborne’s early teams in the ‘70s and some in the ‘80s didn’t have great talent. He did quite well with it, except mainly Oklahoma exposed it. But that all changed from 1993-97 when we had tremendous talent. Osborne’s coaching generally didn’t change — except he did some minor tweeks and changed the defense — but his recruiting certainly did change.

I don’t expect Frost to have consistent top 10 classes. I put my trust in his evaluation of talent and what fits his system. Some of his recruits will be four or five stars in his eyes, while they are actually rated three stars by the services. Yes some recruits will be rated four stars with the occasional five. But if Frost finds a few players under the radar that he thinks could be great players and there is little competition for them, he will go after them. This will lower the rankings some — thus a top 15 or even a top 20 with an occasional top 10. It all depends if the recruiting services agree his picks are rated as high as he thinks they are. I believe in the next five years if our classes average around 15, along with some really good walkons, we will be in great shape talent wise.

Hey folks, what are your thoughts on this? Frost appears to be recruiting players from HS and JC who not only fit his system but who potentially could be really good players — of course some won’t pan out. Do you agree or disageee with me that the difference between the number one class and the 22nd is developement more than pure talent? Can you see where Georgia has recruited talent that is more developed than the Corn’s class? Could this be the big difference between a three star and a four and five? If Frost continues to recruit well and develops these players as he says, will the Corn in four years or so close the gap in talent to an OSU?