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Just now, RedDenver said:

There's nothing in there to support your claims.

I guess the actual votes for Obamacare don’t matter.  Hmmmm

22 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

 

this Brian Williams?  Or was it his twin brother.  
 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2015/02/11/business/media/brian-williams-suspended-by-nbc-news-for-six-months.amp.html

On 11/19/2020 at 10:23 AM, schriznoeder said:

Gee, Marco, I wonder why that is... 

 

 

Gee, maybe because 90% of media are Democrats 

On 11/17/2020 at 4:32 PM, BlitzFirst said:

 

 

To get Obamacare (ACA) passed he actually DID have to work across both parties.  That's something even Bill Clinton didn't get done in spite of having more of a push. 

 

So you can call BS on it...but as a republican during that time, I saw that Obama did just that.  If anything, I see Obama less as a democrat overall...maybe a Dempublican would be a better description.

About that working across the isle for Obamacare fantasy

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=1&vote=00396

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affordable_Health_Care_for_America_Act#House_actions
 

how can you be taken seriously on anything, when you can’t get basic facts straight

3 hours ago, teachercd said:

Are all of you this b!^@hy in real life or do you sometimes just chill and act like normal people?

I’m very nice in real life and on this board

11 hours ago, BlitzFirst said:

 

 

No he didn't.  He was using SARCASM to show just how lazy you were...you could have Googled the answer, but instead asked for someone else to do your work for you when EVERYONE knows burden of proof is on the person who claims something to prove...not upon the person NOT MAKING THE CLAIM. 

 

In spite of this, Knapp actually linked you to proof....but you choose to ignore this.  So, a response dripping with sarcasm was given....which you also ignored and took as a factual response and not a sarcastic one.

 

So, as I stated...you are too lazy to look yourself and instead ask people here...and you ignore the responses that point you in the right direction.

 

I feel bad for you man...you keep acting like you're winning even though it's obvious to any logical person that you're not.

“Turns out you're not wrong about SARS” Guy Chamberlain quote 
 

So yea, he pretty clearly said I wan not wrong.  Knapp didn’t link to proof, he linked to CDC page showing what CDC did to help combat SARS.  It did not say or imply the CDC eradicated SARS so we didn’t need a vaccine.  Not sure why facts are hard for you.  

41 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

It sure can. For people with lupus it's a real lifesaver. So when your idiot President inspired a run on hyrdoxychloroquine among people it couldn't help, it threatened the supply for the folks who desperately needed it. 

 

 

He is your President too assuming you live in USA 

39 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

It sure can. For people with lupus it's a real lifesaver. So when your idiot President inspired a run on hyrdoxychloroquine among people it couldn't help, it threatened the supply for the folks who desperately needed it. 

 

 

It has helped people with COVID.  One of your Democrat Republican candidates vouched for it.  Says her husband was helped when he took it.  It’s not for everyone though 

11 hours ago, BlitzFirst said:

 

Thanks for adding such value to this thread.

Kinda similar to the value it was replied to 

Wouldn’t ever catch me here

On 11/20/2020 at 2:42 PM, Rochelobe said:

CDC Report released today on effects of mandated mask ordinances vs non-mandated counties.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6947e2.htm?s_cid=mm6947e2_w

 

This data is for Kansas from the time period June 1 to August 23.  It looks at the rates of cases across counties in Kansas before/after adoption of a mask mandate (in 24 counties) vs those that did not adopt a mask mandate (81 counties).

 

So, before the mask mandates were adopted (during July), the bolded text shows what the rate in the 24 counties that ultimately adopted a mask mandate in July (3 cases/100,000) vs the rate in the 81 counties that never adopted a mask mandate (4 cases/100,000).  Thus the rate was similar, despite the 24 counties having a much higher share of the population of Kansas (67.3%).

 

Then the CDC looked at the data ~1 month later, as the pandemic took off in Kansas, to when the governor stated a mask mandate:

 

So the effects of the higher population density were much more devastating on the 24 counties that adopted a mask mandate - during the one month prior to the mandate, they went from 3 to 17 cases/100,000 (~6x increase) while the non-mandated counties increased from 4 to 6 cases/100,000 (1.5x increase).

 

On July 3, the mask mandates started in the 24 counties, while the other 81 counties continued as before:

 

So one month later, the mandated mask counties had started to slowly decline, while the non-mandated mask counties increased by a factor of 2x from early July.  The nonmandated counties were "catching up", as the ratio went from 17/6 = 2.83x higher in the in the 24 counties vs 81 counties on July 3 to 1.33x on Aug 23.

 

This is the reason that medical officials have said and continue to say: "WEAR A MASK".

 

Yet, all we hear from a certain population "Ain't no cloth gonna protect you none, nohow."

 

Medical professionals never promised that masks would eliminate the virus, remove all risk, etc.  The goal all along has been to slow the spread as much as possible until the vaccine became available.  It is really concerning that a segment of the population cannot see this.  It is either gross stupidity or willful disregard for others.

 

Oh, and Sweden, the darling of the anti-maskers?  Well they aren't doing so good right now.  Guess that "herd mentality" decided to run over a cliff.

 

Summary:

Cases per 100000
	6/1	7/9	8/23	Notes
24 Counties	3	17	16	Counties adopted mandate July 9
81 Counties	4	6	12	Counties never adopted

 

 

 

Before I start, I always wear a mask indoors when at a public place and currently don’t eat inside restaurants.  Stating that so people don’t think I am anti-mask, anti-science.  
 

I find it interesting that the non-mandated counties have roughly 30% less prevalence than the mask mandated counties.  Now that data is back from August and things have definitely changed so it’s quite possible those non mask mandated counties have caught and surpassed the other counties.   Good case study for everyone to keep following. 
 

On the Sweden thing, most of the people I heard from didn’t say anything about Sweden and masks wearing, it was more Sweden and keeping the economy open as much as possible. 
 

hopefully people can hunker down as much as possible for the next three months, government can get economic money into the system, and we can all open up fully late spring.  

On 11/18/2020 at 7:32 AM, B.B. Hemingway said:

My sister-in-law is a nurse in SW Missouri, and she said they are sending patients in bad shape as far as Manhattan, KS now.... Probably a 6 hour drive from where she lives.

How come they are not sending them to KC Tulsa or OKC?  Would be closer and I don’t believe each area is full.  

I have been hard on Martinez and still do not think he is that particularly good still.  However, he looks way more comfortable in the pocket than LM.  If Frost and Co. could teach him more accuracy and quicker decision making on when to throw the ball, he can be a serviceable QB on a winning team until NU gets the dynamic throw first QB and things can then take off. 

1 hour ago, BlitzFirst said:

 

No, he's saying you're lazy and want to remain ignorant by not finding information yourself.

No, he said I wasn’t wrong.  Why so crabby And defensive Blitz?  No one was even talking to you 
 

I asked a question to someone who had very reliable second hand knowledge about SARS to his perspective and you all get your panties in a wad.  His BIL literally worked with Fauci on a therapy for the disease.  

But hey, at least you felt better and went into your happy place calling someone lazy and ignorant.  Glad you could add your expertise and advance the conversation forward 

1 hour ago, BlitzFirst said:

 

 

We know, hydroxychloroquine is a helluva drug.

It can be 

I feel like the defense is respectable on first down and they are able to get quite a few 2 and 3 down and Kong’s, but then chin decides that is a great time to play cushion defense.   Next thing you know it’s a 6 minute 13 play drive for a touchdown.  I can’t for the life of me think why more teams don’t go for on it fourth down against our defense.   

13 minutes ago, Caveman said:

 

You are not necessarily wrong, but a competent passing quarterback could make this offense shine.

Agree, but Sure would be nice if they tried to recruit one 

1 minute ago, Crusader Husker said:

I think 2AM as QB is the way to go with LM getting at least 20 snaps a game at different positions.

Probably the best route to go in order to win games.  Not a great long term solution, but I don’t know if we currently have one on the roster  

I hope Frost can coach AM to just make quicker decisions when throwing. 

6 minutes ago, knapplc said:

Even the GOP is starting to get tired of trump's BS.

 

Cool guy you all voted for.

 

 

Pretty well said by Cheney. 

2 minutes ago, FrantzHardySwag said:

Yeah I didn’t phrase that the best. Both are a problem, and also a part of a much larger problem haha

Certainly true on all accounts 

2 minutes ago, FrantzHardySwag said:

@Cdog923you we’re right. AM isn’t the problem, Luke isn’t the problem. There is a much bigger problem. 

Maybe A better way to put it is the position is a huge problem.  And it just so happens to be the most important position in sports. 

1 minute ago, knapplc said:

 

Because we can walk and chew gum at the same time.

 

Do you only want to talk about the problems on offense? How about only defense? Both? Because if you can do both, you can add a conversation about crappy Big Ten refs in as well.

 

 

 

Yet it gets the team nowhere.  
NU can change and improve offense 

NU can change and improve defense

NU can change coaches 

NU can do nothing about s#!tty refs 

1 minute ago, teachercd said:

AM is better.  I know some of us love to die on the cross but you don't have to, just come on down.  

 

Luke just played the Illinois, at home, as a 16 point fav...and look at the result.

They both suck and that is the biggest issue