Archy1221
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2 hours ago, RedDenver said:
No, he was Special Counsel. You can check the cover page of the report: https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf
But Mueller wasn't prosecuting the case regardless of his title. He was leading the investigation. As I've stated several times, he could not prosecute a President no matter the evidence.
He had a team of prosecutors working with him.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna976226
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21 minutes ago, BlitzFirst said:
Says who?
You? Why do you think that? What evidence do you have to believe the contrary? Provide concrete examples with multiple sources backing up your claim and I'll shout from the rooftops that the Atlantic is a rag and I'll never read it again.
you should read whatever you like. If you like The Atlantic then read it. I wouldn’t expect you to like some of the sites I read either. The Editors and Political section seem to make many mistakes and are not my cup of tea. I think those parts of it are no bueno. They hired Jemele Hill for cripes sake.
I’m sure there actually are some very good reporters writing for them too on other subjects.
And be careful on rooftops please.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2020/10/31/ruth-shalit-atlantic-niche-sports-correction/
https://medium.com/education-reform/how-last-weeks-atlantic-cuny-story-went-so-wrong-5982c7c46935
https://sharylattkisson.com/2020/10/50-media-mistakes-in-the-trump-era-the-definitive-list/
https://mynorthwest.com/299285/ron-and-don-respond-to-disparaging-atlantic-article/
https://www.aoa.org/news/advocacy/patient-protection/atlantic-author-retracts-tweet?sso=y
https://www.ncregister.com/blog/countering-the-atlantics-fake-news-yes-fetuses-have-heartbeats
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11 minutes ago, RedDenver said:
Are you under the impression Mueller was acting as a prosecutor?
He was a special prosecutor
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9 minutes ago, knapplc said:
@skers83 Would you like to join the conversation?
Should I be aware of these folks? I’m curious why you seek them out for opinion?
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1 hour ago, RedDenver said:
If only someone had already posted additional sources. If only.
I’m no lawyer, but I don’t really think it’s a prosecutors job to exonerate people. I’m sure there are a few on this board that could answer that.
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4 minutes ago, knapplc said:
It should be noted that we didn't need a SARS vaccine because Bush hadn't dismantled or politicized the CDC, allowing them to successfully combat the outbreak before it could reach pandemic status.
I think Guy’s BIL could attest to this (maybe I’m wrong about what I’m about to say) the CDC didn’t necessarily combat the disease into oblivion. The disease kinda died out thankfully even to the surprise of lead scientists.
I definitely could be misremembering finer details though
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32 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:
{SiGH} Sure. I'll play along.
My BIL's situation was somewhat different. His company already made a drug that had proven effective in that particular SARS scare, so the Bush administration was working with them to secure a huge stockpile at a lowballed price. But it was an opportunity to work closely with the government and regulatory agencies on various pandemic scenarios. That SARS episode went away without inducing a panic. We always made fun of my brother-in-law because he kept warning us that a devastating global pandemic was inevitable. But each time the threat petered out, and we just thought he was paranoid.
So yeah, as a high level pharmaceutical exec, he's keenly aware of the red tape and hoops the FDA makes private industry jump through. Which is why he's also appreciative that the FDA's Emergency Use Authorization allowed COVID-19 vaccines to get fast-tracked. But nobody at that level assumes an Obama or Bush administration wouldn't have pushed for the same allowance. It's what you do in a pubic health crisis.
As you may recall, Donald Trump was also lobbying these companies to announce a vaccine before the election to serve his political purposes, but the drug companies and FDA erred on the side of safety and efficacy. Of course he accused them of an anti-Trump agenda for doing so.
Everybody at the FDA and BIg Pharma understood the history of hydroxychloroquine in helping treat lupus and malaria, and as a potential aid in certain COVID cases. But they also thought Trump was totally irresponsible in his public shilling of s#!t he knew nothing about. No respected professional considered hydroxy a cure, much less bleach.
Respected professionals were also in agreement that dismantling the pandemic response team was a bad idea. So was ignoring the pandemic playbook Obama had provided. It's a matter of public record that Trump has been non-stop in undermining COVID concerns and sensible directives that could have saved thousands of live. Respected medical professionals as well as most sentient mammals considerTrump's flouting of science, facts, and evidence to be an embarrassment to America.
My BIL retired with a nice parachute, having left the company better than he found it. Don't know how many people he laid off in his tenure. He's still an industry consultant. Not sure how any of that makes your point.
Again, our vindictive and pathologically insecure President is currently staging a coup, and he's counting on the willfully ill-informed to join him. I will personally and sincerely thank him for Project Warp Speed when he's safely in jail.
So if we aren’t talking about him developing a vaccine for SARS, which we aren’t cause there wasn’t one, then you could be referencing an antiviral which means he was CEO of something like Genentech, Merck, one of the previous companies that make up present day AbbVie but that wouldn’t make sense because none were really major companies in the space.
Or you could be referencing corticosteroids, most likely Dexamethasone which is the most potent. Then it could be a variety of companies.
either way, good for him. As CEO of any of those companies, he would have walked away with $30+million parachute. People like him work very hard. I’m not smart enough for a job like that and I couldn’t stomach all the ‘ cost synergies’ decisions they make after mergers.
I wonder why Bush didn’t make an Operation Warp Speed program? Same with Obama and H1N1?
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On 11/18/2020 at 7:20 AM, Frott Scost said:
This s#!t along with the anti-vaxxers and their claim that Bill Gates has put a chip in the vaccine so he can spy on their measly, trailerpark lives as they swing around their smart phones (which is actually tracking you) is why this country will never get out of this pandemic.-
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3 minutes ago, RedDenver said:
Tell yourself whatever makes you feel superior. Your hand waving isn't evidence or convincing.
I don’t feel superior. You basically said I lived in an information bubble. I said I don’t.
I believe the Atlantic isn’t worth my time, you believe it’s worth yours. Fine. we can go about our wonderful lives knowing neither of us are superior to each other.
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2 minutes ago, RedDenver said:
Evidence matters more. But the bold is why I cannot take you seriously. You can't see outside your bubble.
Your Bold is why I can’t take you serious either. The Atlantic is not a good source for accurate news.
i read some WAPO and NYT and listen to CNN and MSNBC quite a bit when on the road. Way more than Fox. Unlike you, I don’t have an information bubble
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5 minutes ago, RedDenver said:
My mistake, I didn't realize you're playing word games with "accuse". Mueller said he could not indict a President, so the report cannot form a conclusion or reach the level of an accusation. I mistakenly thought you'd be able to read the report and think about the evidence.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/04/ben-wittes-five-conclusions-mueller-report/588259/
Words actually matter. And I don’t read lampoon rags like the Atlantic.
still waiting for one of their trash scribblers to provide more evidence and/or OTR sources he promised for his smear about Trump talking crap about dead soldiers
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Why is Biden sending racist dog whistles with this white power sign?
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43 minutes ago, RedDenver said:
Yes. Yes, it did. Multiple in fact.
But it did not lead to an indictment because DOJ policy (and many legal scholars agree) that a sitting President cannot be indicted.
“while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”
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36 minutes ago, RedDenver said:
Yes. Yes, it did. Multiple in fact.
But it did not lead to an indictment because DOJ policy (and many legal scholars agree) that a sitting President cannot be indicted.
What specific crime did it accuse Trump of?
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5 hours ago, WyoHusker56 said:
They should just do what they decide to do as a team and use it the way they want to regardless of what media or fans think. It means more for the players than anyone else (regardless of how obsessive we all are) and they should make it what they want.
My vote for best post in the thread
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1 minute ago, Guy Chamberlin said:
One man's Hitler is another man's Hillary.
My previous post speaks for itself.
Ya, I didn’t think you have been curious enough to ask those questions. You wouldn’t have liked the answers.
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12 minutes ago, knapplc said:
The good old days. Seems like so long ago now.
Would have been nice if Clinton granted that same immediacy to Bush’s son
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47 minutes ago, knapplc said:
Since we're trying to lie about the results of the Mueller investigation (again).
Did it accuse him of a crime?
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17 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:
Let's find out.
Do you think what Donald Trump is doing to avoid conceding is acceptable?
That question has been asked of me and answered. Go find the answer.
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27 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:
You know who is in my personal orbit? My brother-in-law., the former CEO of a major pharmaceutical company. He worked directly with Dr. Fauci and the Bush administration on the SARS outbreak. He tells me not to under-estimate the loathing scientists and private industry have for a President who doesn't understand a f#&%ing thing he's talking about, sows mistrust of science to the American people, and plays politics with people's lives. He was a lifelong Republican until this. Now he's dedicating every fiber of his being to defeating Trump. Good man.
Say, you know who had some solid economic achievements despite his critics?
Hitler.
Enjoy your day.
Was waiting for a Hitler reference. It’s usually the go-to for people like you. Play fast and loose with the Holocaust. How noble of you.
So ask your brother-in-law what he feels about the speed of this vaccine development. Ask him if this could happen without administration help. Ask him if the decision to build out manufacturing capability alongside development is something his old pharma company would do on their own. Ask him where the SARS vaccine is if you say any administration would have achieved this milestone this fast. It’s not quite apples to apples but he will understand the point. Ask him if any President knows much of anything about actual medicine. ( hint they don’t) but they do know and learn about process. Ask him if today’s news is one possible reason pharma execs despise Trump. Ask him what private practice doctors actually think about Obamacare.
My experience says any CEO mostly likes or dislikes a politician based on the politician views of the industry the CEO works in.
if he really was the CEO of a Major Pharma company, ask him how many people he laid off during mergers and acquisitions of other smaller pharma companies and what his parachute was when he left?
he’s also currently wasting his time devoting every fiber in his being to defeat Trump. Trump already lost.
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2 hours ago, BlitzFirst said:
One was started and is still underway. I'm not sure what more can be done?
If Hunter is guilty, throw him in jail. Doesn't matter to me and doesn't change my view of his dad.
Given historical precedent, we will need multiple house and senate investigations, for the next two years and find out what Joe knows, if he’s involved, what contact he had with his son right.
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2 hours ago, Guy Chamberlin said:
What is wrong with you?
Say what you will about Donald Trump? Start by admitting this lifelong con man is currently staging a coup, dismantling the bulwarks of Democracy you act are so f#&%ing sacred, and throwing the most ridiculous lies at the wall to see what will stick. And there you are, lapping it up. And occasionally screeching something about Hillary Clinton. Donald Trump's personal lawyer is holding literally insane press conferences looking like The Joker. Everywhere are fireworks and flare guns warning you that these f#&%ers are either going to be dictators responsible to no one for any reason, or burn America to the ground on the way out the door. Sorry, but that's the lede in any story right now.
FWIW, it's almost inconceivable that any president WOULDN'T launch Operation Warp Speed. That's not an act of courage or vision. It's page one of the playbook for the American President and his pharmaceutical giants. But a less narcissistic President wouldn't dismantle the existing pandemic response team out of spite, constantly undermine the seriousness of the pandemic and openly encourage a maskless rebellion, or hold a press conference to blabber misinformation about hydroxychloroquine and anything else rambling through his clearly-addled brain.
Please don't assume this is about a single post, or your most recent incarnation on this board. I'm sick of pretending there are two sides to every story. The facts are on one side. Donald Trump is on the other. And every day America gets stupider, meaner and more dangerous. If you bulls#!t patriots truly believe America is exceptional, try to be better than a third-world plutocracy.
You ask what’s wrong with me??? For posting a tweet from a Washington Post reporter! Not exactly a Trump safe space.
What the hell is wrong with you that you get so triggered for that? Oh, look..no matter your opinion of all other Covid related issues and Trump Admin, the Vaccine program is an achievement like no other in history. It’s never been done this fast and roughly five fold faster than anything else in history!!
Trump admin didn’t creat the science to make that happen, private industry did. I work in the industry and know what it takes to get things through the FDA from infancy to approval.
Eliminating the red tape, funding front end for some companies, guaranteeing a purchasing amount on the back end, funding production BEFORE anything is even approved are not easy things to do.
Blame Trump for anything else you want. But it doesn’t sound like you understand how improbable it was to get a vaccine this quick. Go out and ask any doctor in your personal orbit and get their opinion. Stop with the but Trump did this, but Trump did that, and Trump is ruining humanity. Be happy for this particular success.
and by the way, this is my only account and my only incarnation on this board.
so you aware also...many different therapies, some you have never heard of and are not mentioned in the media, have helped patients with Covid symptoms. And that includes HCQ. It is not the end all be all, but it does help certain cases depending on the stage of disease as combination therapy with zinc and VitaminD, not as primary, stand alone therapy.
Enjoy your day.
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1 hour ago, BlitzFirst said:
Pretty much meant it's a hoax on democracy which is true.
People should hold the office of the president with integrity and WANT things investigated...every constitution loving American should.
6 people with links to Trump were convicted off findings in the Mueller Report. I'd say that's an awfully high number of coincidental convictions. But, nothing ever came of it except a bunch of crazy folks who can't even see THAT as abnormal and that deny any links Trump or his associates had to a foreign government.
Most of those were convicted of things that actually had nothing to do with the original Russia investigation. Manafort, Flynn, Cohen, Stone...doesn’t make them moral people but also does not mean they we’re coordinating with Russia to get Trump elected which was a hoax
15 minutes ago, funhusker said:If there is evidence of wrongdoing, sure. I wouldn't poopoo it.
If there is anything that we can learn from the past four years (there is really a ton that we should have learned) it's that non-partisan people need to step up and demand ethical leadership and sanity in our government. Not only investigate wrongdoing, but actually punish the politicians for the actions.
This doesn't mean I'm for chasing ghosts on a political whim, but I'm all for accountability.
Well said!
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Biden's 1st 100 days & his 1st Year legislative agenda
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