Wistrom Disciple

Do we go with Sims in the second half at some point? Haarberg makes some decent plays, but looks in over his head too often and doesn't seem to have the spark to create plays for himself. I'd like to see Sims back in the fold

Just now, chamrocck said:

His nephew is a Georgia commit. Get a legit OL coach and make it the focus of the offense. Do that and it’s an automatic bowl bound season. Stop stalking the ex girlfriend.

He has another nephew, Dayton, who is in Lincoln for today's game. 

1 minute ago, Huskerfollower4life said:

Or I don't know not trail on the play and let the wr get behind the defense.

Sure, but still a good play made by the receiver. Our secondary does well to cover the first few seconds of a play. But unless we get pressure, they can't cover too long. We're getting bullied right now.

Instead of bashing our players, can we acknowledge that it was a heck of an effort by the receiver there? I wish we would've brought someone from the edge or from out wide to disrupt timing, but regardless it was a heck of a play by the receiver. If our secondary could just turn around to look for the ball, it's a pick.

1 minute ago, Decked said:

We are gonna get mauled. 

Hopefully we make them earn everything. These time killing drives aren't bad though, so long as we can put together a few of our own.

16 hours ago, TherealTomOsborne said:

I heard on a podcast that a couple people thought it might be a few years before he is a big contributor.  Totally fine with it, but (fingers crossed) hoping this isn’t another Turner Corcoran situation.  Could you imagine if Turner had lived up to his potential how much better off this O-line would be.

I believe the plan had been to slide Corcoran inside and have Walter Rouse hold down a tackle spot. If that is the case, Corcoran has been playing at tackle out of necessity, not because the staff intended for him to stay there. Rouse's decision really put us back as he would have undoubtedly made us better along the front line. 

2 hours ago, Ratt Mhule said:

Because our TE has 3 TDs in 4 games…

Context helps the bigger picture though. The QB spot has not done too much to help our tight ends so far and the QB in the class hasn't yet done a lot to inspire confidence that he will be an improvement. Though I believe Nelson will not be going anywhere else, it isn't unreasonable to believe he would look around if he isn't quite sold. 

22 minutes ago, TGHusker said:

So does Coach F retire after this year - giving his OC son an easy out opportunity?   Iowa looked pathetic in that game.  

I HOPE NOT! Sign Ferentz to a lifetime contract. Iowa will never been nationally relevant with the Ferentz family leading the program. 

Just now, knapplc said:

Sadly, I don't think we're going to have too many more wins this year. Maybe Northwestern. Maybe Sparty.

Good chances with Purdue as well. And will depend on which versions of Illinois, Maryland, and Iowa show up. All winnable if (big if) we can cover the basics. 

Sad part is even when they line has protected well on the passes, HH has consistently struggled to find receivers. Taking some hard hits on the runs too, wouldn't be the worst thing to get Sims into the mix and work him back a bit.

Injuries or not, he would still be a great addition for the program. It's hard to teach the instinctual stuff and Caleb seems to have a knack for being in the right place at the right time. Would be a great addition and if the coaches can develop some of the instate kids (like they're doing with the Bullocks, Rollins, Lloyd, etc.), that Omaha pipeline becomes much more visible. And if we can get the Omaha and KC pipelines rolling again... look out.

27 minutes ago, Display name required said:

How we need OT like it would be basically instant playing time is our NIL that bad 

Wut?

Either way, the fact that he's been here three times now indicates that he likes something he's hearing from our staff, coaches and/or fans. In the transfer age now, it gives us an opportunity to sway recruits down the line should things not work out at their school of choice.

21 minutes ago, The Dude said:

Recruiting is part of the job description of being a coach, probably the most important part.  That might be where we disagree.  

 

I don't think anyone here would be saying "we can judge yet!" if it was Rhule doing a significantly better job than Sanders.  We can totally judge the job they've done so far.

Sure, recruiting is important, but developing the talent is more important from my perspective. The Frost era should have taught us that recruiting alone does not mean good coaching. I think looking at wins/losses alone is foolish this early into his tenure.

I see signs of improvement and development from Rhule that encourages me that we made a good choice. Some of those include leading the nation in sacks after two games, being top ten in rushing defense (under 2 yards per attempt), and averaging over five yards per rushing attempt. Doing all this with largely the same group of players as last year. I'm excited to see how they continue to develop the players and I'm hopeful that the wins will follow with time. 

19 minutes ago, The Dude said:

To be fair, this is an overwhelming amount of mental gymnastics.   It takes a while to sort out.  I still don't think we disagree that much.  Based on everything you've said we both agree that Sanders is better at acquiring talent and getting them ready to play.  Even if you take the scenic route getting there.

Haha whatever you say man. Deion is a good recruiter, but recruiting does not equal coaching. And no, I am not yet convinced that he is better at getting his players ready to play nor better at building a program. But I don’t view that based on a single game or month. 
 

Again, judging a coach two games in should not be how we determine whether the coach will be successful long-term.

36 minutes ago, corncraze said:

Ugh this makes my head hurt. So Deion inherits a significantly worse team, he pulls in more talent than us, beats us by 3 possessions, doubles CU’s Ws from last year in just 2 games while we’re 0-2, but somehow we have the better coach. I envy your optimism.

Judging a coach two games into his first season seems like an unreasonable adventure. This goes both ways though, 0-2 start doesn’t mean a coach is bad, nor does 2-0 mean a coach is automatically good. Has Deion brought Colorado back to relevance? Yes. Is the media hyping them more than deserved? Also yes. 
 

There is no argument that Deion is an excellent recruiter. I do have to point out that he inherited a 1-11 team on paper, but cleared out 90%? of that team’s roster. So not exactly an apples to apples comparison YoY. His disregard for program culture or team unity works when they’re winning. The true test will be to see how that plays when the team and players face adversity. 

My perspective is that Rhule is a program builder and an above average college head coach. Given the state of our program since Pelini, I believe Rhule is a better fit in rebuilding our program for sustainable success. 

2 hours ago, The Dude said:

When it was a 0-0 stalemate for almost 2 quarters it was "pretty bad" on Deion's part, but a "sound strategy" on Rhule’s part?  Interesting viewpoint.

 

Colorado making far fewer costly mistakes and winning by 3 TDs makes it clear cut that they were more ready to play.   Assuming the point of playing is to win.

Based on your sarcasm and the six days of analysis you took before the reply, it is possible that both are in fact true. Deion and his high powered offense with "allegedly" two Heisman contenders putting up a zero 25 minutes into the game would not be considered "good." Rhule made it pretty clear that they didn't want to get into a shootout. Having hit the post on a field goal and a fumble on the first possession result in zero points given up, 0-0 seemed like a decent spot to be in for us. < It does helps that we were averaging 4-5 yards per rush at that point despite having nothing on the scoreboard. 

In the end, yes Colorado won and their offense took advantage of our miscues. They have some talented players and to their credit, they did make some halftime coaching adjustments to help themselves get going in the second half. However, I still do believe that Rhule is the better coach for our program than Deion would have been and strongly believe that using the first two games as the barometer of whether we made the right or wrong choice between the two is foolish. 

Reminds me of a DeJon Gomes, Nate Gerry, Gifford-style player. Not the biggest, fastest, strongest, or most heralded recruit. But a darn good player with a knack for being in the right spot at the right time. Seems like he would be a great fit and nice to see Wisconsin fumbling their recruitment of him after it looked like they were the leader for awhile. I hope we are able to get him on board.

3 hours ago, The Dude said:

 

You could disagree more.  You only listed reasons Sanders is a better coach.  You could have disagreed a lot more, actually. 

 

We agree Sanders is better at acquiring talent and better at getting them ready to play.  There's nothing we disagree on, really.

He didn’t get them ready to play… they were actually pretty bad until we started giving away turnovers. Nothing about his coaching stood out today at least to me. Yes, I will admit my bias but I do believe Rhule & Co. had a sound strategy until the fumbles started occurring. 
 

Recruiting, sure he’s good, but I think you and those who share your mindset look at the end and use it to justify the means. I’ll be very curious if his style of running a program will hold water over the season and years going forward. 

10 minutes ago, TheSker said:

Sanders hired what might be one of the best assistant coaching staffs in the country..

 

.....and I'd guess Nebraska's team chemistry is now a hundredfold more ugly than Colorado's

 

Colorado is the model for college football now, especially with the portal.  Hire a celebrity head coach and let him bring in the best assistant coaches in his rolodex.

 

There's no question who made the better hire.

That made me chuckle. How many celebrity coaches do you think are out there? And then tell me how many of them have two sons ready to step in and play right away? Good situation for them now, I think Deion is still unproven as a coach.

47 minutes ago, Moiraine said:

Ok. But Prime has talent because he brought talent in, to a program with less money than Nebraska. That is part of the coach's job.

Yes, but you have to remember that two of them are his sons. He does attract some quality skill players, but as @soup mentions it could quickly become ugly once they face some actual adversity. It was getting that way for the first quarter and a half today as their players were getting frustrated with one another leading to poor possessions. Unfortunately, we gifted them some momentum killers and once they got a two score lead, it was over. 

5 hours ago, The Dude said:

Sanders is a significantly better coach, and anyone trying to tell you it can't be learned from one game is trying to gaslight you.

Couldn't disagree more. Sanders flipped his roster and it worked to start the year. I'm not so sure his "coaching" is the reason for their success or simply attracting some quality skill players who are exceptional. We stopped ourselves more than Colorado stopped us today. 

2 minutes ago, Dr. Strangelove said:

While the jury is out on Satterfield, this is just a crazy scapegoat. He isn't exactly working with great ingredients here.

 

The O-Coordinator is so far down the list of problems with Nebraska football that is not even worth talking about at this point. This team is terrible, and there isn't a foundation to build upon. The QB of the future is at Bellevue West and just got blown out last night. 

That scares me, he hasn't been impressive and he's the only QB we have on the line. Likely going to need a transfer QB or two ahead.

Just now, huskerfan74 said:

So far Rhule has not fixed our tendency to commit fouls, our offense, and our half time adjustments. Did I miss something

Well for one, they seem to play complementary football better. Kill the clock, play good defense is always a good recipe to stay in games. The turnovers however, hurt immensely.

21 minutes ago, Rich N said:

It's been clear that Sims is God awful. Yet he's trotting him out there. 

Sims has played poorly, yes. I did like what Satt did at the end of the half by making him go under center. The shotgun snaps were at the center of the fumbles, hopefully we take some lessons from that. We shall see.

Just now, Rich N said:

Rhule showing everyone early that he's not the right guy. 

I'm not sure we should let one game be the barometer of whether he's the guy or not.

Just now, Jason Sitoke said:

Punter is not good. All of a sudden. 

Was just thinking that. Last week's hit changed him, I think he's either hurting or in fear of being dinged up again.