Lorewarn

4 hours ago, B.B. Hemingway said:

So, covert racism doesn’t apply when it’s the other way around? Noted.

You just agreed and affirmed that being anti-semitic and being critical of the nation of Israel aren't the same thing.

@funhusker tried finding examples of being anti-semitic and has so far only found examples of being critical of the nation of Israel. I also just spent some time looking for examples of the former and only finding examples of the latter. 

So I and others are curious what is leading you to attribute statements seemingly related to the nation state to instead be secretly referring to Jewish people in a racist way? 

On 10/28/2022 at 3:22 PM, nic said:

Omar and Talib seem to get away with them….I guess cause they are in government jobs.

Being anti-semitic and being critical of the nation of Israel aren't the same thing.

It's important you understand that because that's a pretty simple distinction that elementary school students can understand.

Whipple deserves the most blame for the loss of anyone although there's plenty to go around to different parties. He refuses to make the game easier for his players, or to even entertain the idea of establishing the run (which we were having success with in the half dozen times he reluctantly agreed you can't throw it deep on EVERY play).

The way to win against a team like Illinois when you're outmanned is score early, get one stop and one more score and force them to be behind schedule. We had that opportunity, but Whip scheming 'too smart' and Casey not playing smart enough made it impossible.

Adidas gives us way, way, way more money than Nike ever would. Not gonna happen.

Football players at every college in America understand that their coaches are trying to recruit them out of their positions on the depth chart. Not an issue.

1 hour ago, Born N Bled Red said:

 

So Thompson being unable to get the ball to Palmer early in the season arguably cost Frost his job?

He just went for the most yards in a game in school history and we lost, so no, I don't think so.

Comments like that in a "news" article should be huge red flags. Another big red flag is that the article does not have an author, the author is listed as the website itself.

If people are interested they should go straight to the source which is the paper cited, and honestly just ignore the commentary from the article because in one sentence it revealed itself as being an untrustworthy source.

imagine how insane and hilarious it is trying to take a question like '...up to the day before birth' seriously

'I support taxes'

'Does that mean that you are ok with people being taxed 99.999999999999% of their money or am i reading you wrong?'

This series has the best writing of any Star Wars live action property ever, and it's not close. Also really appreciate that they decided to film on location for a good chunk of it instead of trying to use the volume stage for things it's not good at.

9 minutes ago, TGHusker said:

As much as we like MJ, he would be just as much - if not more of a novice HC as Frost was back then

There's plenty of room for learning legitimate skills in head coaching, but at the end of the day you either have it or you don't and your amount of experience doesn't really answer if you do.

2 hours ago, Husker816 said:

It's dumb to judge coaches week to week if we go by that standard Frost was a great hire because he was undefeated that season. You got to look at this job for what it is- a rebuild. Who can rebuild the program? Who's rebuilt programs? Who's developed talent?

Frost was a great hire at the time. 20/20 hindsight after the fact of a coach failing has no bearing on whether they were a great hire or the right hire at the time.

The most educated and genius football minds to ever exist couldn't have predicted how Frost would have turned out.

3 hours ago, Red Silk Smoking Jacket said:

It is kind of baffling to me that among all of us, we don't collectively seem to have a favorite choice. Seems pretty evenly spread across the board. Having followed a few coaching searches in the past (for Nebraska and some other teams), I don't recall this being the norm, at least not to this extent. 

For Nebraska, in recent memory, Bo was a near unanimous #1 amongst the fanbase and was the person Tom sought out. Then when he was fired, there was no clear favorite choice outside of the brief 'JIM TRESSEL WAS IN LINCOLN' hilarity where we all got suckered into a groupthink spiral of delusion. Then Frost was obviously the only candidate last time around.

There is no one single person who makes sense the way that Bo and Frost did this time, and in addition to that a lot of the fanbase is suffering from PTSD and are now too scared to think we can take a risk on anything other than a proven guaranteed choice, which doesn't actually exist, so they have to convince themselves that X is actually safe and dependable and guaranteed.

4 hours ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

I still don't see any reason why there shouldn't be a bit of controversy or at least caution in giving large doses of body altering chemicals to minors -- there's not a long term body of evidence yet, and not every kid knows what they're doing and why.  But I do think parents "pushing chemicals on very young children" is fishing for the worst example in order to discredit the larger, more nuanced issue that affects a fairly small percentage of people and doesn't threaten the social order. 

Most don't. It's a very challenging predicament - kids and more specifically teenagers very often embody tissue paper in a slight breeze, blown any direction on a whim by a powerful neurochemical cocktail of all sorts of developing impulses. It's legitimately impossible to legislate a good solution because the answers will be different and unique to many, and the only good path forward for any individual is having good parents to help guide them through and know when something is more than a phase or less than a permanent identity crisis.

But the idea that there are vast, or even a notable amount, of parents actively WANTING that for their kids is an asinine accusation. Parents that don't push back against gender-blurring norms? Maybe, sure, especially from a more conservative social point of view. But parents actively pushing for their kids to be trans or queer ala Johnny Moxon's dad in Varsity Blues? Please.

There's no shortage of bad parenting out there, and there's no exception for parents of trans kids, but unengaged parents not taking it seriously are a far graver and more prominent problem than activist parents trying to cut off their kids genitals.

5 hours ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

The LGBTQ community itself isn't united on the language and messaging yet. 

I think in part because the LGBTQ community is barely something that could even be called a community and is itself not even close to united on anything let alone any particular issue. 

6 hours ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

While my heart is with you on this, my brain can't ignore that a compassionate yet abrupt redefinition of sex and gender is actually helping foster the fascist authoritarian nation state. 

 

It's not a tiny but loud minority. Trans rights is a gauntlet being thrown down to every politician, state government, and corporation that does business with that government. And because this is America 2022, there is no time for nuance. Even a hedge or caveat could get you hammered. 

 

And because we live in a world of false equivalencies and superficial messaging battles, "liberals want to destroy masculinity" has every bit as much weight or more than "the GOP wants to overthrow Democracy."  

I actually agree with all of this except that I would still maintain it is a tiny and loud minority, which doesn't dismiss the idea that there is a lot of power and weight to it.

6 hours ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

But I still think both comedy and academia have a duty to let it fly. There's gotta be a forum to take tackle difficult discussions head on. I lean hard left, but I feel no sense of victory in a canceled appearance or silenced professor.  

100% agree. This is very much how I live in the real world and surround myself with friends and acquaintances I feel able to battle with re: ideas. I don't lean into it much on here because there seem to be very few people ready to explore in good faith, and the attempts get drowned out and pushed to previous pages too quickly by the trolls, ideologues and obstinate folks.

1 hour ago, Go Furself said:

Whipple, in his first year and to no fault of his own, inherited arguably the worst offensive line in the last 60+ years of Husker football.

Our line is god awful, but I think the 2005 line is definitely the worst by far and any other claim is a far, far second place. 

4 hours ago, admo said:

Does your ideal QB take a lot of time before the snap,......standing there.... looking around, looking at defenses....... wondering where he might go with the ball.... and then play backyard style?

 

Or does your QB take the play, read the coverage immediately, and let it rip within seconds?  You know, like a quarterback.

My ideal quarterback is a good one. Casey and Adrian are both really good. Very comparable.

1 hour ago, RedSavage said:

I caught that now.  Not sure why you'd be comparing an NU Martinez vs an NU Thompson, when they're both on new teams this year. 

You claimed that they aren't "even remotely on the same playing field as passers".

I showed you that through 6 games at the same school at the same age with some of the same players and some of the same coaches their numbers are almost identical. I'd say by definition that qualifies as being at least 'remotely' close.

Just now, RedSavage said:

Not sure where you got those stats from but according to ESPN, you're only correct on Thompson.  

 

Martinez:  86/138 (62.3%) - 900 yards - 4 TD - 0 INT - 126.7 - 6.5 YPA

 

I'll take Thompson for $1,000, Alex

You're looking at his fifth year at Kansas State. 

Rs are now positing that being critical of Israel and being anti-semitic are the same thing? 

The word on Petersen was not that he would never leave Boise - it was that he would never leave the northwest/west coast, in part due to culture but also in part due to health issues with his kid.

Similarly Fickell would absolutely leave Cincinnati, but it's less likely he'll leave Ohio and less that he'll leave the Great Lakes midwestern region.

1 hour ago, RedSavage said:

I haven't gone back and read the thread, so if I missed it and that's not what you're trying to say, my bad but if you are trying to claim that Casey and Martinez are even remotely on the same playing field as passers, that is simply false.

100/150 (66.6%) - 1463 yards - 6 TD - 2 INT - 166.58 QBR - 9.75 YPA

118/180 (65.6%) - 1497 yards - 9 TD - 6 INT - 145.2 QBR - 8.3 YPA

Which is which through 6 games in their fourth season?

2 minutes ago, admo said:

You put my guy 2AM in Casey Thompson thread?  With some cherry picking videos?  Sorry, but that make no sense to me.  

 

We can agree to disagree but I think CT is not "THE" problem when our offense stalls or is forced to punt. 

 

CT is a pocket passer that typically gets the ball out quickly to a receiver to make a play.  3 seconds and it's done.  Casey is not a traditional Husker QB that plays backyard football. You know, hold the ball too long, stare down receivers, scramble, run run run....

 

He doesn't try to turn "called passing plays" into backyard football  (That's a shot at several former Husker QBs).

 

If you don't like it, that's okay. 

 

It seems this team converts more 3rd downs with him (4-10 yards) and it is being taken for granted too often.  

 

This is the first year in a long time that the running backs are tagged with running the football, and not the quarterback.  Both positions doing their jobs with this pitiful offensive line.  And the receivers/TE need to make some tough catches at times.  You can't put every single throw in their facemask to be caught, or between their numbers.  Help the guy out that is giving you an opportunity to make a play IMO

Your first and only claim was that Casey is making throws we haven't seen in years. And you cherrypicked examples, so I cherrypicked examples of the same types of throws from literally only last year.

You don't need to try and come up with a half dozen other tangent talking points about how they're different or whatever different point you're trying to get to now, as I wasn't addressing any of that. Only the specific point that we have never seen those throws before.

11 minutes ago, Toe said:

Was Baylor really that much of a rebuilding job? I mean when he was hired, they were just two years removed from a ten-win season. He took over a team that had 7 wins under an interim HC, and proceeded to produce a season with a single win.

 

TBH, it kinda reminds me of the narrative of Frost rebuilding UCF, when they were just a couple years removed from winning the Fiesta Bowl.

It's hard to know, but on principle I'm always skeptical of coaches who had a miraculous year 2 and then weren't around long enough to see if it was a fluke or not.

Gene Chizik went 14-0 in year 2 at Auburn.