sCrUmptious!

I don't think so... when the teams are evenly matched, the second game more often than not goes to the team that lost the first game. I think Missouri's playing the best football of anyone in the country right now - Oklahoma's not even in that discussion. The season this Mizzou team is putting together reminds me a lot of the 2001 Colorado team, except without the season opening loss to Fresno State... oy, I'm still bitter about that.

Kstate had to lose to Fresno state for and NU beat CU for NU to finish 8th in the conference. NU Lost so we finish 10th in the conference. KSU beat Colorado, so the have the tie breaker. CU will have to depend on an at large bid. KSU finished 8th in the big 12 this year. KSU only has 5 wins. They're not bowl eligible.

O'DOYLE RULES!!!

It's comments like this one that make me love HuskerBoard. Yeah all the bad students -- the rioters -- are from LA and Texas. Right? Wait... what? I don't get the point you're trying to make here.

Maybe I'm alone in this, but I think I'm gonna start rooting for Mizzou solely because of Tuff Tiger. I sincerely want to read anything and everything this guy would write after the Tigers took home a NC... good lord, I wouldn't need to get any new bathroom reading material for the rest of my life! Keep on rockin, you crazy bastard

I'm part of the exchange program. My Buff boards get BigRedIowan, and you guys get to hear from me and BeachBuffs. Personally, I don't think it's much of a fair trade, but I guess the Iowan's about as good as you guys could muster

Good luck with that, I highly doubt you guys ever go 10-0 in the next fifty years. Uhh... it looks a little cramped by your computer over there, do you really have room to talk?

Maybe the guy that's backing up Bo Ruud...? Makes sense to me.

That reminds me, how's that 2008 Heisman race shaping up as of this morning?

What is the story here? Obviously the formation of the Big XII is what ultimately did away with the yearly OU/NU game, but who made concessions to end up with the conference being set up the way it is today? I'm aware of the basics of the joining of the SWC and the Big 8, but I've never really heard the intricacies of the whole maneuver. Seems to me that if Nebraska and Oklahoma both wanted to play eachother every year so badly, they could have structured the conference in a way to make that happen, couldn't they?

Look at the last 20 years, that's the only time it's been considered a rivalry anyway (and it has been a superb rivalry over that time, rife with classic finishes and NC implications). I realize you're all still smitten for Oklahoma, and many of you don't have any respect for CU, but can I ask you why you hold the Oklahoma program in such high regard? I mean, obviously there have been some classic games between your two schools, but Oklahoma was pumping their players full of cash and HGH during their most prolific era... what's there to respect about that? Oh, for starting this thread you also get one of these:

Ding the dong? I didn't know they played that in Lincoln...

I don't know if you guys realize this, but you're one defensive genius away from being a Big XII title favorite. I mean, for God's sake, look at the numbers your offense has been putting up! If your defense had anything resembling a pulse, you'd have won at least 9 games this year. The talent is there on both sides of the ball, it's just only being utilized with the offense. But here's the question: is Callahan solely responsible for the offense's success? If he goes away, does the offensive production go with him?

It's comments like this one that make me love HuskerBoard.

carefull...you'll upset some people's view of the world. Not sure they all can handle it.... My apologies, I'll tread more carefully next time.

What's the first reason? Those trademark Nebraska cankles? Child bearing hips? Flapjack boobies? Waist length hair? Asses shaped like manhole covers? This is hard, there's so many awesome qualities to choose from!

And by the way, those of you who want to claim that everyone gets treated like garbage when they come to Boulder are absolutely full of it. http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100736

In college football, you basically have two types of fan bases - those who view college football as a sport, and those who view college football as a religion. Generally speaking, you'll find that the "sport" crowd is less knowledgeable about players, history, and records. They very well might not know how their opponent has played throughout the season, and they're far less likely to know the names of the opposing team's coaches, let alone their offensive/defensive tendencies and strengths. They're unlikely to travel en masse to bowl games, and they're probably going to stop attending games if their team starts out 0-3. They enjoy football as entertainment with benefits; obviously they solicit a far greater pleasure from winning than they would from watching a sitcom, but for the most part they just go to games to have fun, get drunk with their friends, and yell. They don't always handle losing well at the moment it happens, but they get over losses very quickly due to the fact that their emotional involvement to their team in no way resembles the emotional involvement they have with their families. The downside of this crowd is that, since they view football as little more than a source of entertainment, they don't have a built in "respect for the game". They talk a lot of trash, they don't worry about whether or not they can remember the first quarter, they throw stuff sometimes, and they're relatively likely to get in heated verbal (some of which become physical) spats with opposing fans. They do unfortunate things often, but their unfortunate actions are generally petty offenses. This is CU. The "religion" crowd is the exact opposite of the sport crowd. They know their facts, stats, and schemes. They will attend every game regardless of the circumstances, and will travel to bowl games regardless of the distance. To them, football is an integral part of their lives. Going to a big time game is likely something they'll tell their grandchildren about 30 years later... it's a spiritual experience. They will likely handle losing with some measure of grace, but they'll think about it for weeks or months after the game is over. They don't talk much trash, they usually don't throw things, and they're only likely to get in a fight if they feel someone is disrespecting their team or the game in some way. The downside of this crew is that they're far too dependent on their teams for ego gratification. They take losses personally, and can grieve over them more than they would if they lost a family member. They rarely do the sort of petty things that the "sport" crowd does, but they will occasionally do things that the sport crowd would never do. Bizarre, cultish things... like castrating an opposing fan, or threatening the lives of their coaches or players. In short, they rarely do bad things, but when they do, they're REALLY bad things. This is Nebraska. Obviously, there are CU fans that fall into the religion group, and there are Nebraska fans that fall into the sport group, but most CU fans are casual, and most NU fans are beyond devoted. Personally, I don't think one is at all right nor do I feel that one is at all wrong. They're just different.

Look, I'm not trying to make an argument that NU fans aren't classy, I'm simply defending my school from being called classless. Something that I'm extremely tired of hearing from Husker fans and something that is entirely unwarranted. What irks me to the nth degree is that whenever you hear about a Husker fan doing something horrible people say "oh, well every fan base has a couple bad fans" before going back to worshipping the Husker faithful. On the other hand, when a CU fan does something horrible everyone immediately chimes in with this "yup, their whole fan base is garbage. Decent human beings are in the minority in Boulder, everyone's always drunk and raping eachother" BS, and I'm entirely tired of it. If you want to look down on other fan bases now, you're gonna have to figure out how to do it when staring up from the ground, because after all the nonsense that some of your fans have pulled this year, you guys no longer have a leg to stand on when it comes to condemning bad fan behavior.

Not that they didn't try, though. Unlike some CU students who threw some water bottles at an uninhabited patch of grass, some NU students took it upon themselves to throw bottles at A PERSON (Brandon Drumm) after he scored in Lincoln in 2002. Don't even try to look down your nose at CU for fan behavior, not anymore. Not after this year. Find a story for me about a CU fan threatening the life of a CU coach, or one about CU fans booing the children of our head coach, THEN you can go ahead and say whatever you want.

Much appreciated, and we'll be looking forward to next year's game too (when BOTH teams are a lot better). Sloppy as all hell, but it was still a fun game today, eh?

And just because one good post deserves another, here's an account from a CU fan about NU fan behavior today: Three asshats were standing during play in the early 4th qtr w/CU up 16 points- they refused to sit when asked and simply flipped off anybody and everybody around them. They were being reals pricks. A CU fan came up and put his hand on one of their backs and one of the NU fans made a fist and faked that he was going to punch him in the face- The guy sitting next to my dad saw enough and bolted down the aisle - in no time at all he came back up w/a Boulder police officer- NU fan refused to sit and the Boulder police motioned him to come and he was escorted out of our section"

And what about the CU fans who backed you up? Classless urchins as well? Yeesh, get over yourself already. It's a college football game, and a rivalry game at that, you're in the student section, and you get offended by a few F bombs? What did you think you were going to hear, Raffie lyrics?

My vote's for either Yale or Harvard.

According to wikipedia the Buffs started playing in 1884 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_Buffaloes#Football), but CU's website only has schedules/results listed back to 1890... I'm not sure which is right. Regardless, I certainly agree with and appreciate your second point.