Alamo City Husker

I Wow. I think you need to turn off fox news and take a few chill pills. Just to be fair and "balanced" FOX NEWS HASN'T HARDLY COVERED THIS STORY and talk radio for that matter, sports radio is covering better. Much to the chagrin of what I thought, the mainstream press is doing a better job at it than them. Sorry for upsetting people with my opinions. Liberal indoctrination? What are you talking about and how does this impact the story? We got to stick to the thread here per the Mods, I will PM you later

Wow. I think you need to turn off fox news and take a few chill pills. Just to be fair and "balanced" FOX NEWS HASN'T HARDLY COVERED THIS STORY and talk radio for that matter, sports radio is covering better. Much to the chagrin of what I thought, the mainstream press is doing a better job at it than them. Sorry for upsetting people with my opinions.

Please stop posting this sh#t in every topic. Hey since I checked last....you don't own this forum and are not a MOD....not to mention forums are for free speech expression. Truth be told its not in every topic. BUT ITS TRUE AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT...WAHWAHWAHWAHWAHWAH. I guess the truth hurts!!! How do I know this.....I was born and raised in Nebraska, I have lived in Texas for 18 years and they don't put up with that kind of crap here!!!NOT even at UT!!!! Well I am a mod and I can tell you to knock it off. It's derailing threads and there's a proper forum for it. With all due respect sir, This thread is about the idiots in from of Joe Pa's house, which is in my view similar to the wallstreet protesters if you listen to them! How am I "derailing" threads? I am sorry the only derailing is this guys feeling towards not agreeing with the comment. I did not bring up politics I brought up ideological thinking. By definition the two are two different.FWIW IMHO.

Please stop posting this sh#t in every topic. BTW they have this feature on here where you can block posters you don't want to see.FYI!!!!!!

Please stop posting this sh#t in every topic. Hey since I checked last....you don't own this forum and are not a MOD....not to mention forums are for free speech expression. Truth be told its not in every topic. BUT ITS TRUE AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT...WAHWAHWAHWAHWAHWAH. I guess the truth hurts!!! How do I know this.....I was born and raised in Nebraska, I have lived in Texas for 18 years and they don't put up with that kind of crap here!!!NOT even at UT!!!!

I think a large portion of their fans are obviously delusional or have no morals. Here's an interesting quote from SI. Alex Fakhraee, you sir are a f'ing idiot. This crap has me fuming. Alex Fakhraee, 19, of Ambler, Pa., said it might be time for the 84-year-old Paterno to go. But his concerns have more to do with the direction of the program under JoePa's leadership than the scandal. "I'm sure it's going to affect our image in some way," Fakhraee said outside the union. "From what I know, he knew about it and he reported it. After that I feel it's not his obligation. He's just here to coach the football team." Read more: http://sportsillustr...l#ixzz1dB6oiWAv [/left] That's what Liberal indoctrination does to minds that fathers haven't instilled any sort of morality in!!!!

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No wonder his son wrote his press release Sunday!!!

Makes me feel like the Wall street occupiers went to "Occupy" his house.....But seriously "say a prayer for the victims....tough life when people do bad things to you" AFTER YOUR GUY RAPED KIDS THEN TOOK ONE TO CHURCH?????WTTFFFFFFFFFFF!!!! We wonder why people become atheist. How about LEAD IN PRAYER JOE????You are a leader right? I hope I never hear another complaint about Bo at a presser, because this guy has had 65 years to master it, and he is nothing more than Bernie from weekend at Bernie's!!!! :steam :steam :steam

I finished reading the 23 page indictment, and I am so heartbroken as a father for those children. My first intuition is how Joe Pa gets off on not getting arrested, sickening. All I can say is my heart tells me that there are higher ups orchestrating this whole thing to try to salvage the institution of Penn State. Read all 23 pages make your own determination, but Penn State brings alot of money to an already cash strapped state, coincidentally that doesn't have a whole lot of other institutions. The connections to this college go all around the states. The only reason I see as why Joe Pa didn't retire sooner is because without him all the other guys above him don't have the power to quiet things down and keep it hush hush. "the graduate assistant was never questioned by university police AND NO OTHER ENTITY CONDUCTED AN INVESTIGATION UNTIL HE TESTIFIED IN GRAND JURY..." pg.7-8 INDICTMENT I am not going to quote pages 8-9 here read them for yourself, how does the graduate assistant not tell Joe Pa the details when he first tells him of the incident, but tells Joe pa's boss's the details. This stinks to high heaven! Couple that with a missing DA declared dead who was investigating earlier incidents, an inept prosecution picked by who knows WHAT DA, (Because there is no way that you can convince me that the perpetrator didn't have kiddie porn on his computer and NO SEARCH WARRANTS WERE PERFORMED ON HIS HOUSE, OR THAT NO JUDGE WOULD SIGN A SEARCH WARRANT AFTER THE INITIAL EVIDENCE). Then the two administration officials ( who coincidentally look more like pedophiles than the perpetrator) who get arrested were supposedly told them that it was "inappropriate wrestling" WHICH WAS THE EXACT PHRASING THAT THE OTHER 8 VICTIMS SAID THE MOLESTING STARTED,( by wrestling, laying on top of them with a erection, then saying they needed to take a shower, and raping them when in the shower, THEN TAKING ONE TO CHURCH AFTERWARDS)????? This has been planned for awhile now ALL the testimonies in the indictment sound like rehearsed lawyer speak, except for the assistant. I can hear the lawyers calling him now to offer him big Oprah interview money. I believe that a Federal appointed overseer will step in to give the University the credibility it needs to not go belly up. Read that indictment, after reading it they will have to change the name of the college, think I am joking read all the pages...if you can stomach it. I tell you it deeply wounds my spirit. Remember these ain't NYC, LA, or Chicago prosecutors. In Texas the would have called for the Texas Rangers and EVERYONE would have been rounded up rightfully so. I think within a week the perp commits suicide, this ain't going to be good for Joe Pa's health, and the college athletic landscape will be forever changed. I see legislators calling for limits on the amount colleges can receive from profits, new $2,000 stipend rescinded, and new regulations. I am telling you folks it is sick. The crime isn't what gets people its the coverup and this whole thing sounds like a script right off an episode of the Soprano's!!! Lord God comfort, cover, and heal those boys, In Jesus Name. AMEN.

The arrogance in it all is they thought the people would be behind them, that is what power does to a man, it makes you arrogant and steals your morality. I mean handing out the trophy to him, smiling, knowing all this information, while the investigation was going on????Arrogance!!!

I finished reading the 23 page indictment, and I am so heartbroken as a father for those children. My first intuition is how Joe Pa gets off on not getting arrested, sickening. All I can say is my heart tells me that there are higher ups orchestrating this whole thing to try to salvage the institution of Penn State. Read all 23 pages make your own determination, but Penn State brings alot of money to an already cash strapped state, coincidentally that doesn't have a whole lot of other institutions. The connections to this college go all around the states. The only reason I see as why Joe Pa didn't retire sooner is because without him all the other guys above him don't have the power to quiet things down and keep it hush hush. "the graduate assistant was never questioned by university police AND NO OTHER ENTITY CONDUCTED AN INVESTIGATION UNTIL HE TESTIFIED IN GRAND JURY..." pg.7-8 INDICTMENT I am not going to quote pages 8-9 here read them for yourself, how does the graduate assistant not tell Joe Pa the details when he first tells him of the incident, but tells Joe pa's boss's the details. This stinks to high heaven! Couple that with a missing DA declared dead who was investigating earlier incidents, an inept prosecution picked by who knows WHAT DA, (Because there is no way that you can convince me that the perpetrator didn't have kiddie porn on his computer and NO SEARCH WARRANTS WERE PERFORMED ON HIS HOUSE, OR THAT NO JUDGE WOULD SIGN A SEARCH WARRANT AFTER THE INITIAL EVIDENCE). Then the two administration officials ( who coincidentally look more like pedophiles than the perpetrator) who get arrested were supposedly told them that it was "inappropriate wrestling" WHICH WAS THE EXACT PHRASING THAT THE OTHER 8 VICTIMS SAID THE MOLESTING STARTED,( by wrestling, laying on top of them with a erection, then saying they needed to take a shower, and raping them when in the shower, THEN TAKING ONE TO CHURCH AFTERWARDS)????? This has been planned for awhile now ALL the testimonies in the indictment sound like rehearsed lawyer speak, except for the assistant. I can hear the lawyers calling him now to offer him big Oprah interview money. I believe that a Federal appointed overseer will step in to give the University the credibility it needs to not go belly up. Read that indictment, after reading it they will have to change the name of the college, think I am joking read all the pages...if you can stomach it. I tell you it deeply wounds my spirit. Remember these ain't NYC, LA, or Chicago prosecutors. In Texas the would have called for the Texas Rangers and EVERYONE would have been rounded up rightfully so. I think within a week the perp commits suicide, this ain't going to be good for Joe Pa's health, and the college athletic landscape will be forever changed. I see legislators calling for limits on the amount colleges can receive from profits, new $2,000 stipend rescinded, and new regulations. I am telling you folks it is sick. The crime isn't what gets people its the coverup and this whole thing sounds like a script right off an episode of the Soprano's!!! Lord God comfort, cover, and heal those boys, In Jesus Name. AMEN.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-08/penn-state-officials-taking-fall-for-paterno-donor-katz-says.html "Lewis Katz, who donated $15 million to Penn State University and whose name appears on a campus law building, said the school officials who stepped down after a former football assistant was charged with sexually assaulting children are “taking a fall” for the football program, including coach Joe Paterno." This isn't going to fly, heads will role. Legacy is not going to matter in all this.

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You need to read the grand jury report to understand this. Warning, though, it is horrifying and many people can't get through it completely. There's a lot more here than "an incident." There was a direct witness to a boy being forcibly raped in a Penn State shower. That witness told Paterno, and he relayed the info to his superiors. You need to understand the magnitude of these allegations to understand why JoePa (and everyone else who knew what Sandusky was doing) abdicated his responsibility so thoroughly by not making sure the police were contacted. Even worse, as recently as 2007 Sandusky was still coming to closed practices with young boys - AFTER Paterno and the school knew about the 1999 and 2002 incidents. In 2009, Sandusky was allowed to run an overnight football camp for youngsters on the Penn State campus. Sandusky was still allowed to use workout facilities as recently as last week. This is huge, and I don't think it's quite hit most of the public how ugly it is. That will sink in over the coming days and weeks. OK so I read all 23 pages. I still do not see where JoPa had direct knowledge of any sexual contact. Even in the earlier statements, he says there was inappropriate behavior on Sandusky's part. Before I go on, lets get one thing straight, in no way am I defending the actions of anyone involved. I am simply stating that JoPa should not get fired for his part. I am more disgusted by the grad assistant who at the age of 28 had to run home to daddy and tell him and NOT stop what he saw or Joesph Miller the wrestling coach who witnessed an incident and the janitor who ran and told everyone but did nothing to stop the attack including the police that listen in on a mothers conversation with him and the then DA that did nothing about it. WTF. This has nothing to do with living in the past (1960's) either. This is a sad story about a beloved coach that got away with it because no witness stepped in to stop it. JoPa turn the information over to his superiors, one of which oversaw the Campus Police. It wasn't his job to follow up, it was Gary Schultz as overseer of the campus police and Tim Curley, his boss. Like a poster said before character is doing the right thing when no one else is looking. If it was Joe Pa's grandson it would have been handled differently! That in itself is the hypocrisy of this whole situation which is inexcusable. IMHO

I predict a resignation due to the health issues from the stress that this has caused him. Tomorrow.

This isn't 1960 anymore, and that's how he treated this whole situation. Times have changed, and not just black people playing football (in his speech few weeks back). So no one with a pair informed Mr. Joe Pa, at the risk of recruiting no doubt. But I have to agree with Husker John in the original thread, he took an angle that I had not yet seen! "If this would have happened to Paterno's grandchildren, I bet he never would have contacted any higher-up.....he would have contacted law enforcement immediately......" -Husker John

http://abcnews.go.com/US/penn-state-scandal-paterno-speak-tomorrow/story?id=14894985#.TriB1LIf6Ht He is going to appear tomorrow at his regular press conference. He might need to hire PBO's WH press secretary for this one. I can imagine the room will be a little more packed than usual tomorrow. The sandblasters will come on Joe Pa. I have to give credit to the media, the weekend guys must have been inept because this thing has blown up big today! It was Google's top story almost all day. I wouldn't be surprised if he resigns. I feel more stuff will come out eventually, books will be written, talk show rounds and the whole 9 yards. Which is sad, I pray to God that one of these boys has been healed and has the courage to come out and speak about who and what happened, this stuff breaks a man's heart and gives him rage all at once.

Paterno is responsible because after he notified his superior and it was clear it was being swept under the rug, he let it lie rather than press the matter or go to the police himself. Everyone in the chain of command had the obligation to make sure the law got involved, and everyone in the chain of command abdicated their moral and legal responsibility to do so. Paterno was responsible because Its not the 1960's anymore, its 2011. Last week defending Grambling Coach for playing black kids, but he can't follow up on a 10 year old bou getting raped??? How could the grad assistant continue to work there for three years after seeing it, with sandusky still having a office there? What do they have a MAMBLA group on campus? Knapp, The university officials lawyers are already going to defend the two arrested by saying the statue of limitations had run out. Does anyone have any honor anymore? I bet that limitation law gets changed by the end of the year! This is going to get more disgusting as it goes and I think more people will get implicated along with sandusky. God help those boys!

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2011/11/07/penn-state-officials-head-to-court-amid-cover-up-allegations-sex-abuse-scandal/ http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-400_162-57319464/penn-state-sex-scandal-prompts-2-resignations/ "Resignations of famed football coach Joe Paterno and Spanier weren't discussed at the meeting, which was arranged Sunday and lasted two hours, university spokesman Bill Mahon said." First foot drops!

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bigten/story/2011-11-06/ex-coach-administrators-charged-at-penn-state/51101298/1 Vice President steps down, the first of many to come.

Your right how more "specific" do you get when you tell a coach that another one had a little kid in the shower???!!!WTF I would like to see how the local media is reacting out there or even in there forums. You have your typical apologists acting like Paterno is still as pure as the driven snow, but for the most part, they're just as disgusted as everyone else. All three's mugshots look shady to me, I thought it was the guy on the far right, or middle, not the left. IMO

Your right how more "specific" do you get when you tell a coach that another one had a little kid in the shower???!!!WTF I would like to see how the local media is reacting out there or even in there forums.

No, doing the right thing would have resulted in him calling the police. Now Paterno and everyone else with knowledge of the alleged crime should be sent to prison for life. If this is true it is very sickening! Also, if this happened in the 1990's then the alleged victims should be able to testify by now since they would be old enough. Hit another nail on the head!

Amen!