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1- Watson/Gill

2. Gill/Roby

3. Webster/McVeigh

4. Jacobson/Morrow/Fuller

5. Jordy/Morrow

Anyone see reports or write-ups on his visit to the spring game?

The idea of McMullen, Maurice and Williams pounding on the interior line early in the game and then bringing in the explosiveness of the Davis twins is exciting.

The group of receivers are looking so promising. Stanley Morgan JR, JD Spielman, Derrion Grim, McQuitty, Keyshawn JR....

 

Man that's a lot of talent right there. A lot of incredible talent. Things are looking bright to say the least.

Don't forget about DPE!

Here are the reasons I like the hire, in no particular order.

 

1) He's a former Husker - while this isn't a necessity to be a NU coach, Parrella is a guy who understands the culture of Lincoln and what it takes to be successful in college football and at NU

2) Long NFL career - 12 years in the NFL can be a great selling point for recruiting guys, even if he's not a house hold name. He has experience in what it takes to be successful at the highest level of football. Yes there is a question in whether he can "teach" it to kids, but I like his chances. Plus, he played for Banker, so he coaching the philosophy of Banker's D isn't going to be foreign.

3) Ties to California - there will be a lot of coaches in California high schools who are familiar with Parrella and who will welcome him into their school

4) Recent knowledge with high school kids - he started a football program in high school, so that takes a lot "recruiting" to get kids to come out for football and he probably has a good understanding of what today's high school kids are thinking about

5) Some coaching experience - I understand Parrella doesn't have 10-20 years of coaching experience, but he does have experience coaching D-line camps and has been coaching in high school and smaller college level. That level of kids aren't oozing with talent, so those kids are going to need good teaching and coaching to become good ball players.

 

Overall, I think he's a good fit with the program and current coaching staff.

Completely agree. Also, I think people are underestimating the inroads he made in California as a high school coach. As you mentioned, not only did he start a program but I am sure he is somewhat familiar with the landscape, other coaches and what kids from Cali are looking for in a school.

There was a discussion about retaining recruits. Transfers are more and more common all the time but I was curious what our numbers have been recently.

 

Here are the players we've signed and what happened to them:

 

Class of 2009

Stayed 2+ years - C. Green, Ankrah, Washington, Burkhead, A. Green, Sirles, Martinez, Randle, Martin, Middleton, Robinson, Kerr, Ash, Gomes, Zimmerer, Coffey, Pensick, Qvale, Kinnie

Left after 1 year/dismissed - Williams

Never made it - None

 

Class of 2010

Stayed 2+ years - Ashburn, Bell, Carnes, Cooper, J. Cotton, David, Enunwa, Evans, Guy, Hardrick, Heard, Jackson, Jean-Baptiste, Marsh, Mitchell, Moudy, Okuyemi, Rodriguez, Rome, Vestal

Left after 1 year/dismissed - None

Never made it - Harper

 

Class of 2011

Stayed 2+ years - Abdullah, Allen, Bondi, Carter, Davie, C. Jackson, Price, Peat, Pirman, Reeves, Santos, Stafford, Sterup, Sutton, Turner, Williams

Left after 1 year/dismissed - A. Green, Klachko, T. Moore,

Never made it - Starling

 

Class of 2012

Stayed 2+ years - Afalava, Alexander, Anderson, Armstrong, S. Cotton, Cross, Curry, McMullen, A. Moore, Rose, Seisay, Thurston, Valentine, Westerkamp, Whitaker

Left after 1 year/dismissed - Brown

Never made it - None

 

Class of 2013

Stayed 2+ years - Banderas, Carter, Collins, Finnin, Gerry, Gladney, Gregory, Hannon, Hart, Johnson, Joseph, Knevel, Kondolo, Love, Maurice, Natter, M. Newby, T. Newby, Stanton, A. Taylor

Left after 1 year/dismissed - D. Martinez, Miller*, Suttles

Never made it - Dixon, Mixon

 

Class of 2014

Stayed 2+ years - Akinmoladun, Brown, Bush, Cockrell, Darlington, Farmer, Foster, Gates, Gifford, Jones, Kalu, Keels, King, Mosley, Newell, Pierson-El, Stoltenberg, K. Williams

Left after 1 year/dismissed - Irons, Tolbert

Never made it - Harrison, Stewart, Walton, Wills

 

Try taking that until their junior season. The number of top level recruits left in the program is staggering.

2009 - 4 of the top 5 rated recruits were not here for their junior season.

2010 - 3 of the top 5 rated recruits were not here for their junior season.

2011- 2 of the top 5 rated recruits were not here for their junior season.

2012 - only 1 of the top 5 rated recruits not here for their junior season.

2013- 3 of the top 6 rated recruits not here for their junior season.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Staff offered Englehaupt tonight because they found out one of the guys isn't committing tomorrow... If we go 1/4 on Chase Allen, Dez Fitzpatrick, Lamar Jackson, and Isaiah Simmons then I would call that a lack of closing and a problem getting the job done.

I would agree.

I suppose you want the coaches fired

Not at all. I'm a reasonable guy. But I'm a realistic guy, like how it's looking like we'll end the cycle is disappointing. But when I said that two weeks ago I was told to wait till signing day. So I'll continue to wait and hope for the best.

I am little frustrated by Dez, but figured we were 50/50 on Simmons. This is there first full year and believe this is a much better class then in the past. Too many think its the end of the world.

I guess I'd disagree with it being better than in the past, it's pretty right on par. It's not the end of the world at all, but it's not necessarily what we needed. I'm pretty optimistic for next year's class and do really like some of the pieces we grabbed this year.

I am looking at average player rating, not class rating as 30+ of Bo's classes never made it past a year.

I don't think your information is accurate.

They were discussing this on the local ESPN Husker radio station. They said that 30% of Bo's classes did not make it to school, got kicked off the team or left after year 1.

Pretty sure that number is high. And even if it's not, it's a totally different discussion.

 

Its not a different discussion. Just because Bo may have pulled similar recruiting ratings that didn't stick for more then a year or make it to campus is very relevant to this conversation. Bo's classes were also buoyed at the top of the class by individuals who never made it to campus... Monte Harrision, Tre Dixon and Bubba Starling all come to mind. Take those guys and add in others who left after a year and we see the result that was this year.

 

I think the point is give this class some time. I don't see the defectors or atleast the high rate of defections after 0-2 years like we did under Bo in this class.

 

 

Keeping kids around is a different discussion than recruiting them.

 

And if we're looking at ratings of players currently on the roster, we were #25 this past year.

 

 

If you recruit a kid that never shows up to campus but count him toward the average rating when comparing that class to another class it is exceedingly relevant to the discussion.

 

 

Recruited kids that never get to campus is kind of an in-between state that could be in either.

 

But that is such a small minority that it doesn't have much of an effect on the larger discussion.

 

And you'd rather not even recruit the Starlings and Harrisons rather than take a chance they won't end up on campus? Was no one else recruiting them?

 

I get your point but they (Starling and Harrison) still elected to go somewhere else - in their cases they chose baseball over Nebraska. They may have been a commit at one point (as its being speculated with Fitz as a silent commit) but they never ended up here.

I guess we will just have to agree to disagree. Sorry for derailing the thread. Hopefully we land get Simmons.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Staff offered Englehaupt tonight because they found out one of the guys isn't committing tomorrow... If we go 1/4 on Chase Allen, Dez Fitzpatrick, Lamar Jackson, and Isaiah Simmons then I would call that a lack of closing and a problem getting the job done.

I would agree.

I suppose you want the coaches fired

Not at all. I'm a reasonable guy. But I'm a realistic guy, like how it's looking like we'll end the cycle is disappointing. But when I said that two weeks ago I was told to wait till signing day. So I'll continue to wait and hope for the best.

I am little frustrated by Dez, but figured we were 50/50 on Simmons. This is there first full year and believe this is a much better class then in the past. Too many think its the end of the world.

I guess I'd disagree with it being better than in the past, it's pretty right on par. It's not the end of the world at all, but it's not necessarily what we needed. I'm pretty optimistic for next year's class and do really like some of the pieces we grabbed this year.

I am looking at average player rating, not class rating as 30+ of Bo's classes never made it past a year.

I don't think your information is accurate.

They were discussing this on the local ESPN Husker radio station. They said that 30% of Bo's classes did not make it to school, got kicked off the team or left after year 1.

Pretty sure that number is high. And even if it's not, it's a totally different discussion.

 

Its not a different discussion. Just because Bo may have pulled similar recruiting ratings that didn't stick for more then a year or make it to campus is very relevant to this conversation. Bo's classes were also buoyed at the top of the class by individuals who never made it to campus... Monte Harrision, Tre Dixon and Bubba Starling all come to mind. Take those guys and add in others who left after a year and we see the result that was this year.

 

I think the point is give this class some time. I don't see the defectors or atleast the high rate of defections after 0-2 years like we did under Bo in this class.

 

 

Keeping kids around is a different discussion than recruiting them.

 

And if we're looking at ratings of players currently on the roster, we were #25 this past year.

 

If you recruit a kid that never shows up to campus but count him toward the average rating when comparing that class to another class it is exceedingly relevant to the discussion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Staff offered Englehaupt tonight because they found out one of the guys isn't committing tomorrow... If we go 1/4 on Chase Allen, Dez Fitzpatrick, Lamar Jackson, and Isaiah Simmons then I would call that a lack of closing and a problem getting the job done.

I would agree.

I suppose you want the coaches fired

Not at all. I'm a reasonable guy. But I'm a realistic guy, like how it's looking like we'll end the cycle is disappointing. But when I said that two weeks ago I was told to wait till signing day. So I'll continue to wait and hope for the best.

I am little frustrated by Dez, but figured we were 50/50 on Simmons. This is there first full year and believe this is a much better class then in the past. Too many think its the end of the world.

I guess I'd disagree with it being better than in the past, it's pretty right on par. It's not the end of the world at all, but it's not necessarily what we needed. I'm pretty optimistic for next year's class and do really like some of the pieces we grabbed this year.

I am looking at average player rating, not class rating as 30+ of Bo's classes never made it past a year.

I don't think your information is accurate.

They were discussing this on the local ESPN Husker radio station. They said that 30% of Bo's classes did not make it to school, got kicked off the team or left after year 1.

Pretty sure that number is high. And even if it's not, it's a totally different discussion.

 

Its not a different discussion. Just because Bo may have pulled similar recruiting ratings that didn't stick for more then a year or make it to campus is very relevant to this conversation. Bo's classes were also buoyed at the top of the class by individuals who never made it to campus... Monte Harrision, Tre Dixon and Bubba Starling all come to mind. Take those guys and add in others who left after a year and we see the result that was this year.

I think the point is give this class some time. I don't see the defectors or atleast the high rate of defections after 0-2 years like we did under Bo in this class.

Bray deserves every $ he gets and I would push for a multi year deal with him. I agree with your logic on moving the expiration and renewal dates. Perhaps last year was due to the timing of the hire of the staff and so forth.

https://mobile.twitter.com/isaiahsimmons25/status/690626187983384576

As with the rest of his recruitment I haven't read or heard anything about his recent trip. Has he made any comments about the visit? Any reaction or quotes from his parents?

You got to think it made an impression having the Calabass crew in town...

S Commit Tony Butler

 

The dude truly owns twitter.

 

 

Interesting - if not entirely pleasant - observation looking at Offensive Tackles.

 

I've seen a couple different places that Alaric Jackson wants to commit to Michigan State but they're not taking him right now. Seems that he is a backup plan for them. So I looked at who else they might be looking at, per 247. They only show four OTs with MSU offers who aren't committed elsewhere. This list might sound familiar: Jauan Williams, Matt Farniok, Alaric Jackson and EJ Price. Jauan Williams isn't going to MSU and EJ Price seems headed to the SEC. That would seem that the other OT MSU is waiting on is Farniok. If they don't get him - and I think Farniok picks NU or Iowa - Jackson would seem to be their next look.

 

And Jackson is also looking at Iowa. So there would be a scenario where Farniok and Jackson could end up at Iowa and Michigan State. And that would suck.

We'd literally be f'd.

 

 

No we wouldn't. But it would be another punch to the stomach in how recruits view Nebraska.

 

I disagree. We've landed a top 5 guard in the nation (Raridon) and are in (and possibly leading) for rivals #1 safety (L. Jackson).

Honestly if we get Williams back.. a D-Line of Freedom, Williams, McMullen, Davis/Neal is pretty athletic and solid

I expect to see Freedom, Williams, Maurice, McMullen - with Davis behind Freedom and Neal behind McMullen. Also, could see Carlos Davis overtaking Maurice by seasons end.

Offense Pod 1

3 WR/S Isaiah Simmons

3 WR Desmond Fitzpatrick

0 WR Kalija Lipscomb [Vandy Commit 01/17/16]

0 WR Zach Farrar

Offense Pod 2

2 OT Matt Farniok

1 OT Royce Newman

0 OT Jauan Williams

3 OT Alaric Jackson

Defense Pod 1

3 CB Lamar Jackson

3 S Tony Butler

0 JUCO CB Devron Davis

0 DT Amir Watts

Defense Pod 2

1 JUCO DE Tramal Ivy

3 DE Collin Miller

0 JUCO LB Kapri Doucet

2 LB Cameron Goode

Hopefully Big Red South has some success. Either way, they will undoubtedly gain some experience which should bode well for if/when Riley retires down the road.

With Ben McAdoo being hired as the Giants head coach - any rumblings as to him coming after Langsdorf as OC??

Kid looks solid. Surprising he wasn't offered sooner. Like others have said - appears to be a late bloomer but does have a nice offer sheet. Hopefully we can close.

 

I hope this is not a plan B for Fitz.

I think the plan all along was to take a few more WRs if the right ones came along. So I don't think this is a plan B.

 

Somewhat, I think that now that we are out of it with Farrar his recruitment is heating up as we have been looking to take 3 WR in this class.

Imo we have a DT and DE emergency

We definitely don't have an emergency at DT with the Davis twins red-shirting this year. I do agree it would be nice to build quality depth at the position.

Wait, what!? He picked Colorado or you're surprised they're an option? Lol, the waiting is killing me.

Waiting is the hardest part....

When you go back and look at the past 3-4 recruiting classes and look at the top recruits how many of our previous 'top recruits' ended up providing meaningful contributions? This is the first and foremost trend we need to buck.

With this kids ball skills and the development in route running that we will receive under the incoming coaching staff he could be scary good. Kid has NFL potential.

Is it to early to buy a red sweater vest for x-mas?

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