The King

Thx for moving it Mavric.

Pelini has been very impresses with Charles Jackson. Completely new mentality from him this year. Byerson Cockrell will help us out. Physical. On phone so hard to link tweets.

Imani is one of the nicest guys on the planet, too. Just a great guy. Glad he is on this team - and he would play at a lot of other schools.

It won't let me quote the two people - but I dropped this two days ago - whoever posted the Ohio State post game and Walksalone have continued it. I wonder why people don't attack you guys? Interesting, very interesting. In fact, you guys got +1's for apparently trying to start it back up LOL. Because my whole life isn't spent on here I'm not part of "the crowd", cool I get it. That's fine. Anyway, I'm looking forward to the next chapter of Nebraska football - where we can hopefully win something of significance. Or maybe our next "best QB in the nation" will win an award or a conf. champ or a real bowl game to justify such claims. Oh and I'm a troll? Ha.

Can't wait to see our linebackers wreak havoc for opposing offenses. This defense is really shaping up to be something special in the future.

Tell that to Quincy, not me. He is the one who blamed Martinez for the drops.

I quoted the wrong one. Anyway, that is fine. He also caught a 99 yard bomb if I recall correctly and he still would rather have a certain QB back there than another one. Doesn't matter if it "makes sense" or not. But, he was "more" comfortable with Tommy than Taylor (that should say a lot since Enunwa was a sr.). Maybe it didn't translate to catches for Enunwa but that wasn't my point.

Precisely why I asked the question in a previous post: Do you think chemistry and leadership factor into how a team does? It's not secret that Tommy is a better leader and more vocal than Taylor ever was or will be. That's not a knock on Taylor, it's just a great trait to have in a QB. I happen to think they do factor in. EDIT - It has nothing to do with not wanting to play for T-Mart, it's about who they would RATHER play with.

Especially don't bring it up when tons of players have said exactly the opposite. It actually isn't speculation. It's pretty well documented that people welcome the leadership TA brings to the team and it is also well documented how much more willing people were to put their necks out for Tommy in the media - and don't you remember the whole Quincy Enunwa situation with who'd he rather have start or w/e and he pretty much threw TM under the bus? I actually recall very well how Enunwa was complaining about Martinez throwing a catchable ball ... Right before he proceeded to drop several catchable balls from TA the rest of the season. I never said TA is better and I never blamed Taylor for being horrific on offense. This all started because someone called out Armstrong for his turnovers yet idolized T-Mart who has one of the worst cases of fumbilitis I've ever seen. Based on this, I just thought TM was limited in what he could do for us based on the offense we ran with him. It limited us to his skill set which was not tailored to getting the ball to our playmakers in space, which is what we need to do. Thats why I'd wager we win more without him, than with him. Eliminating 1.5 fumbles a game or whatever is pretty important.

Especially don't bring it up when tons of players have said exactly the opposite. It actually isn't speculation. It's pretty well documented that people welcome the leadership TA brings to the team and it is also well documented how much more willing people were to put their necks out for Tommy in the media - and don't you remember the whole Quincy Enunwa situation with who'd he rather have start or w/e and he pretty much threw TM under the bus? Thanks in advance for the documentation that you are about to bless us with, since it is, as you say, well documented. Can't wait. There are numerous things I've posted on here and PM'd to people that was not public knowledge at the time and did become public knowledge. Furthermore, I know there are articles out there that talk about Tommy's leadership ability. Enunwa regarding a question about Martinez and dropped balls: "You guys are going to make me say something I shouldn't say so I'm not going to answer that."

It was the anti-Taylor guys that brought him up, I don't understand why The King and folks like him needs to Martinez to talk up Armstrong. Especially since he has done nothing to show he was better than even a freshman Martinez. I get it. You don't like Taylor and for some reason love Armstrong. Can we move on and talk about the team without disparaging one of the most prolific players in Nebraska history? NOOOO. You obviously dont get it. And I'm defending True on this cuz we happen to agree on Armstrong. I think when it's all said and done he'll be a better qb here than Taylor. No, he probably wont set the records, but overall, when it's all said and done, he'll be remembered as better. BUT GOD DAMN IT, THAT DOESNT MEAN WE THINK TAYLOR SUCKED OR DISLIKED HIM. Same way goes with this past season. The notion that we thought Armstrong was better than Taylor. LOL. Yeah. We're dumb enough to think a reddyfresh is better than a 5th year senior with 4 full years experience. LOL. NO. The concept was that Armstrong was better than an obviously hurt Taylor. And he was. No even close. I'd like to see it put to bed, but it wont be. 23 years from now, we'll still be rehashing Taylor Martinez. How great he was, and how bad he was, all at the same time. It's mind-boggling. DING f'ing DINGGGG DING DING I do not hate Taylor. I also stated that Tommy won't necessarily be a "better' player. I merely brought up that Taylor had turnover issues just like Tommy appears to have - except for only way more severe and people didn't seem to give a f#*k. I completely forgot the post, but I broke down the fumbles that the top QBs in the nation had and Martinez stood out like a sore thumb. You don't win games by consistently fumbling.

Especially don't bring it up when tons of players have said exactly the opposite. It actually isn't speculation. It's pretty well documented that people welcome the leadership TA brings to the team and it is also well documented how much more willing people were to put their necks out for Tommy in the media - and don't you remember the whole Quincy Enunwa situation with who'd he rather have start or w/e and he pretty much threw TM under the bus?

Maybe just maybe, and I could be wrong since I'm a moron that+1ed Landlord largely do to his last paragraph, posters are stick of the continual bashing Taylor gets. This incident was brought to you by the king. And isn't it ironic that some posters get butthurt over criticism of TA citing the he's a freshman card, yet they were some of the first casting stones Taylor's frosh year. We obviously need Peyton Manning 2.0 Interesting, because I wasn't the first one to bring up Taylor Martinez; in fact, I just said that WRs disagree that he throws a better ball than TA. I then defended TA against someone who said he wasn't very good and made bad decisions - and then I mentioned if TA is bad decision maker, I'm afraid what that would make Taylor. I also said we would win more games with whoever the next QB is and sighted that TA was 7-1 as a starter and no one who makes a "lot of bad decisions" has that record. Sorry for defending our current Qb who was getting thrown to the way side by some posters.

How many were lost? How many were from getting blindsided in the pocket because the O-Line couldn't protect the pocket? Did he drop the ball? Sure, but so does TA (and far too often its during the snap). I still don't get the Martinez haters. The dude set over 30 school records, including: total offense, passing yards, touchdown passes and rushing yards by a QB. Dude played through injuries, dealt with scorn from fans, led the team to 2 conference championship games (games the defense slept through), and essentially put up video game numbers for 3 years. What did he do to earn your unabashed hatred? It is a fact, Martinez is one of the great Nebraska QBs and it is a shame that the team couldn't help him win a championship. I'm fairly positive that those fumble numbers are not correct going into his junior year,but i dont care enough to check. Its funny that even with Taylor (allegedly according to the king) throwing a worse ball, he still had a much better passing percentage. It's okay king, you're entitled to being wrong. Those numbers were correct. This site doesn't even include games stats unless it's two FBS schools and there are 45 in his 1st three years. I checked this a while back and he did have a couple more fumbles that don't show up here. http://www.teamranki...er-stat/fumbles #it'sokaytobefairlypositiveandbewrong I'm not sure what that link is supposed to show, but i didn't see anywhere that mentioned Taylor Martinez and fumbles. Btw, i think that those 47 fumbles were going into his senior year. My apologies, it was going INTO his senior year at the conclusion of his junior year. I've been in a bit of rush today. Still, that's a whole lot of fumbles.

How many were lost? How many were from getting blindsided in the pocket because the O-Line couldn't protect the pocket? Did he drop the ball? Sure, but so does TA (and far too often its during the snap). I still don't get the Martinez haters. The dude set over 30 school records, including: total offense, passing yards, touchdown passes and rushing yards by a QB. Dude played through injuries, dealt with scorn from fans, led the team to 2 conference championship games (games the defense slept through), and essentially put up video game numbers for 3 years. What did he do to earn your unabashed hatred? It is a fact, Martinez is one of the great Nebraska QBs and it is a shame that the team couldn't help him win a championship. I have also repeatedly said that the first 3 years of Martinez, he was unquestionably the best QB on our roster and for our team and that we owe him a lot for the things you stated. That doesn't mean I have to agree that he was some Husker legend and a lot of his records are set for the same point I'm about to make: If Jamal Turner started at QB as a true freshman, had the whole offense tailored to him, got a coach "let go" for telling Bo that this offense isn't working with him (and we should probably tailor the offense to the entire team, not one specific player - especially an injured one at that) I'm sure he would have video game like numbers after 4 years also. Also, I said 3 years ago, that we would never win anything meaningful (and I reiterated it this year and last year, I believe) with him at the helm. Look at that, we haven't. That's what having an inconsistent QB does for you. He loses big games. I do not hate Martinez. I hate his turnovers. I am glad he was a Husker. I'm still happy we can finally move on. Let me ask you this: Does team chemistry and leadership factor into the equation at all for you? Obviously it isn't reflected in "broken" records, but there are other things those things do effect. Notice how the D finally came around when Tommy started playing and he was frequently over talking to them? I will not post any more info, but the team trusts and believe in Tommy a lot more than they ever did Taylor. Part of that is because of Tommy's personality, which is unfortunate for Taylor, but oh well. Finally, I don't recall how many he lost of the top of my head in his first 3 years. I do know that even you maintain the ball, if you lose yardage, cost your team a first down, put your team behind the sticks, blow it on 3rd down - none of those are reflected in "oh, he only lost X fumbles." I don't care how many he lost, I care about how it cost us repeatedly in key situations by screwing up the down&distance. And I don't care about being blindsided - everyone gets blind sided. Maybe he should have better pocket presence and awareness. Of course the OL should block better but I can give hypotheticals if you can too. Anything else you care to have answered?

Oh, I'll also throw in (going into his junior year) Taylor had 47 FUMBLES. 4. 7. 4-7. 47. FUMBLES.

Difference between throwing a rocket and putting heat on the ball. Taylor tended to throw rockets (and I believe Jamal Turner) was the one who, as a freshman, spoke the truth about difficult it was to catch a ball from Taylor. I believe other WRs also spoke out about how he needs to have better control of his velocity.

So much wrong in one post. Martinez QB Rating: 2010: 138.8 2011: 126.5 - Coincided with the move to the B1G and still recovering from his injury 2012: 141.6 2013: 140.0 TA was 124.3 Interceptions: 2010: 7 on 196 attempts 2011: 8 on 288 attempts 2012: 12 on 368 attempts 2013: 2 on 110 attempts TA had 8 INTs on 131 attempts. Completion percentage: 2010: 59.2 2011: 56.2 2012: 62.0 2013: 62.7 TA had a 52% completion percentage Taylor was a special player, if he had a decent defense backing him up we easily win the 2012 CCG, and would have had a chance to play for a natty (it was defensive failures that cost us games over the past 4 years and not the offense unless we are talking about games Taylor didn't play in like the loss to Iowa and Mich St). If Armstrong wins anything it will be because of the much improved defense. Edited to add completion percentage, I knew I forgot something. I didn't even read any of that because I was using QBR, not rating. I think that's pretty evident if you look further than what you want to see. Furthermore, why don't you try posting Taylor's total fumbles as well? And how many drives that f'd up? Might've not been a turnover, but it certainly f'd us numerous times. You don't find it odd how much support Tommy got from the team as opposed to Taylor? I didn't say Taylor was bad nor did I say Tommy was better, I just said we will win more games WITH WHOEVER THE NEXT QB is - because team chemistry is pretty damn important and so is leadership. Oh and there is a fun story about Taylor overriding too many plays and getting us into worse positions.

Not really fair to compare TA with TM on the offense. TA going into this year has a LOT more firepower behind him than TM did his sophmore year, and the defense is much better. TM won us more games than he lost us, with less support. That being said, I fully expect TA to be the starter heading into the season and I'm sure he will work on his decision making to cut down on turnovers since we don't need to lean on him. And I agree that his knee probably wasn't 100% and that he will be more mobile this season. My thoughts on TM are well-documented. People thought we'd be f'd with Tommy Armstrong instead of TM because "TM was so good" and we ended up going 7-1 with Armstrong as starter. TM is horribly overrated and most people not wearing scarlet and cream glasses can see it. Well, you're wrong, but you're not the first one to be wrong, so it's okay. You're full of gold today :-) FWIW, with direct knowledge of the situation, a certain coach is thankful that Taylor Martinez isn't here anymore and has attempted numerous times to tell a certain Bo that T-Magic isn't the best QB on the roster for this offense.

How much does the alleged simplification of our offense by the coaching staff help make this offense run more smoothly? How many tackles will Tommy make this year as opposed to how many Taylor made last year? How much better is Tommy at punt returns that Taylor? I don't know, you tell me. The offense looked pretty horrific in the one game Taylor came back for and prior to that, and then (for the most part) it looked pretty smooth (with tons of OL injuries as well as WR injuries) when he wasn't in the game. I'd say if he can make less tackles than Taylor made during his career, that'd be a bonus. Considering Taylor had pretty severe turnover issues which get greatly overlooked because of his occasional running ability. And you're just building straw man arguments and being an idiot. Don't be an idiot.

I.....wow..... I really enjoyed watching Armstrong play......Jesus I can't believe this is a serious post. You don't go 7-1 with a QB that makes "a lot of bad decisions". 8 INTs, 4 fumbles (not 100% sure about this number), completion % of 51.9 and a 124 QB rating shows a QB that does make some bad decisions. Next QB being whom? If it is TA I'd take that wager. You really want to open that can of worms? How many turnovers did Taylor have as a freshman, sophomore, junior? Huh? I'm scared of what kind of decision maker he was if Tommy made "a lot". Taylor made a f#*k ton then. But, wait, Taylor was fast and he turned games around - Oh really? Taylor's frosh yr was a 70 QB rating, then it was 60 as a soph, then 70 again as a jr then 45 as a sr. Tommy Armstrong pretty much just had a similar year to T-Magic as a soph, but he was a frosh. Oh and not to mention, Taylor knew he was the #1 guy and it was his team. Tommy didn't know until after the season started. And the next QB being either Armstrong or Stanton, whoever wins the job, will at least win a conference championship.

Not really fair to compare TA with TM on the offense. TA going into this year has a LOT more firepower behind him than TM did his sophmore year, and the defense is much better. TM won us more games than he lost us, with less support. That being said, I fully expect TA to be the starter heading into the season and I'm sure he will work on his decision making to cut down on turnovers since we don't need to lean on him. And I agree that his knee probably wasn't 100% and that he will be more mobile this season. My thoughts on TM are well-documented. People thought we'd be f'd with Tommy Armstrong instead of TM because "TM was so good" and we ended up going 7-1 with Armstrong as starter. TM is horribly overrated and most people not wearing scarlet and cream glasses can see it.

And yes, I'm ready to throw in the towel on #4, its not like he's the second coming of #15. heck, he's not even the second coming of #3. Bet we win more with our next QB than we ever did with Taylor. I also bet our offense continues to look a lot smoother. I'd also wager that Tommy Armstrong wasn't even 90% last year on his knee.