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  1. Holy crap I'm out. Agree to disagree then. God forbid we read into the context of it all.
  2. I haven't excused the coaches from anything. In fact, I said so in my very first post in this thread. It's only fair to say that you need to look past the wins and losses and realize they didn't inherit a good football team. We got 9 wins last year against who? Year before that did we beat anyone with merit? It's an inflated number.
  3. I've been harping on that the last 4 years. Knowing how to tackle, carry the football, blocking technique, route running, etc. The last staff did these players no favors in that department. That was an uphill battle the current staff had to climb when they got here and they have done well with some of it. Tackling and fumbles seem better this year. Not perfect but better. Recruiting is probably part of it, but good coaches can shape raw players. It's gotta be drilled into them during the offseason. Fine. So they're finally learning fundamentals. How does that excuse terrible clock management by a staff w 200yrs experience twice in one season? How does that excuse terrible game plans? How does that excuse the largest regression on defense in the sports history? How does that excuse not fitting what these players are actually good at to try and win games instead of the round/square that seems to be happening? I get that it takes time to teach "college technique" but players today are coming in more ready to play as freshmen than ever in history. Sheer speed and athleticism should beat Purdue and Illinois. Except the fact our coaches kinda STINK. I never once excused the coaches for anything. I hold them as accountable for this mess as anyone, but all I'm trying to say is that they did have a good amount of rebuilding to do. Anytime you fire a coaching staff and bring in all new, you're rebuilding. But I do agree that 3-6 is unacceptable. It's only fair to say that they didn't inherit the team everyone thinks they did.
  4. God I love threads like these. Slept through the game, tells other people how to be fans. 125 posts, tells admins how to run website. I'm sorry who's the entitled one again?
  5. I've been harping on that the last 4 years. Knowing how to tackle, carry the football, blocking technique, route running, etc. The last staff did these players no favors in that department. That was an uphill battle the current staff had to climb when they got here and they have done well with some of it. Tackling and fumbles seem better this year. Not perfect but better. Recruiting is probably part of it, but good coaches can shape raw players. It's gotta be drilled into them during the offseason.
  6. Nebraska's attrition from last year was normal. Yes we lost Abdullah and Gregory notably but this was in no way a rebuilding project. Bo's teams were a house of cards. I explained why above. I never mentioned attrition. You do know what attrition means right??? Do you? Okay let's talk about attrition then. Abdullah was easily the offensive MVP over the last 2 years. Carried this team on his back when we needed him too and now that bell cow is gone. That only strengthens the case that it is a rebuilding scenario. 1. It's pretty clear you don't understand the true definition of attrition as it correlates to college football. Here's a hint: It's not like the NFL. There's attrition every single season in college football. Every single college football team experiences it. Players graduate or in small minority of cases some players are able to declare early for the NFL draft. Some just quit or leave the team or stop playing due to medical/personal reasons. Hopefully this makes some sort of sense to you as far as attrition and how it effects every single college football team every single year. 2. Per the bolded if you think losing one player automatically equates into calling the next season a 'rebuilding year' regardless of how good that player might have been then by your definition every single season is a rebuilding year. Here's another hint. It's not. I'll continue discussing this point with you when you stop cherry picking. All I'm saying is, Bo Pelini did not leave a fully equipped team behind and that the issues run deeper than the numbers show. But how many coaches leave behind a 'fully equipped team' in college football????????? Do you not follow the sport???? Again this is not the NFL. Let me make it clear for you. While Nebraska lost their best rb in a long time and a 1st round draft pick on defense there were still a lot of guys leftover from a team that won 9 games just last year. Now suddenly we are 3-6 and it's not because Bo didn't leave us with a fully equipped team. Do you not think any blame should be laid upon the current new staff of coaches???!!!! There's talent on this roster to warrant a better record than 3-6 and the coaching decisions which have at times resembled ones made on the high school level are right there in front of you for everyone to see. Holy excuses batman. So you're saying it's a rebuilding project? The reason we are 3-6 is a combination of what was left behind and the current staff's decisions. They are not mutually exclusive. Bo would have had to do some rebuilding if he was given another year.
  7. Nebraska's attrition from last year was normal. Yes we lost Abdullah and Gregory notably but this was in no way a rebuilding project. Bo's teams were a house of cards. I explained why above. I never mentioned attrition. You do know what attrition means right??? Do you? Okay let's talk about attrition then. Abdullah was easily the offensive MVP over the last 2 years. Carried this team on his back when we needed him too and now that bell cow is gone. That only strengthens the case that it is a rebuilding scenario. Kenny Bell gone? A reliable deep threat. Great perimeter run blocker. Yeah we really don't need that right now. Gregory? Boy a pass rush specialist like that would be swell this year wouldn't it. LBs? Yeah that cupboard was empty when Bray got here, and he has put results on the field regardless. Come on. We lost a lot of on field production. That only further proves that it is in fact a rebuilding process. Like I said above, it doesn't excuse the current staff from their list of mistakes, but they didn't exactly take over a contender either. Problem: People were THRILLED to see KB gone and if I remember correctly...many people hated RG and felt he did not play hard. Yet know those guys are missed? Vegas had the win total at 8.5...if they would have seen this as some rebuild project they would have put that total at 6.5 and been laughing all the way to their vault because they would have known that 150,000 Husker fans would have been betting the overs. Their attitudes were hard to deal with as a fan. Bell especially getting involved in the pay for play debate the way he did, and the crap he has pulled on twitter this year. But I know exactly what their production on the field meant and how hard that is to replace.
  8. Nebraska's attrition from last year was normal. Yes we lost Abdullah and Gregory notably but this was in no way a rebuilding project. Bo's teams were a house of cards. I explained why above. I never mentioned attrition. You do know what attrition means right??? Do you? Okay let's talk about attrition then. Abdullah was easily the offensive MVP over the last 2 years. Carried this team on his back when we needed him too and now that bell cow is gone. That only strengthens the case that it is a rebuilding scenario. 1. It's pretty clear you don't understand the true definition of attrition as it correlates to college football. Here's a hint: It's not like the NFL. There's attrition every single season in college football. Every single college football team experiences it. Players graduate or in small minority of cases some players are able to declare early for the NFL draft. Some just quit or leave the team or stop playing due to medical/personal reasons. Hopefully this makes some sort of sense to you as far as attrition and how it effects every single college football team every single year. 2. Per the bolded if you think losing one player automatically equates into calling the next season a 'rebuilding year' regardless of how good that player might have been then by your definition every single season is a rebuilding year. Here's another hint. It's not. I'll continue discussing this point with you when you stop cherry picking. All I'm saying is, Bo Pelini did not leave a fully equipped team behind and that the issues run deeper than the numbers show.
  9. Nebraska's attrition from last year was normal. Yes we lost Abdullah and Gregory notably but this was in no way a rebuilding project. Bo's teams were a house of cards. I explained why above. I never mentioned attrition. You do know what attrition means right??? Do you? Okay let's talk about attrition then. Abdullah was easily the offensive MVP over the last 2 years. Carried this team on his back when we needed him too and now that bell cow is gone. That only strengthens the case that it is a rebuilding scenario. Kenny Bell gone? A reliable deep threat. Great perimeter run blocker. Yeah we really don't need that right now. Gregory? Boy a pass rush specialist like that would be swell this year wouldn't it. LBs? Yeah that cupboard was empty when Bray got here, and he has put results on the field regardless. Come on. We lost a lot of on field production. That only further proves that it is in fact a rebuilding process. Like I said above, it doesn't excuse the current staff from their list of mistakes, but they didn't exactly take over a contender either.
  10. Nebraska's attrition from last year was normal. Yes we lost Abdullah and Gregory notably but this was in no way a rebuilding project. Bo's teams were a house of cards. I explained why above. I never mentioned attrition.
  11. Oh let's not kid ourselves about it being a rebuilding project. It absolutely is a rebuilding project. That doesn't excuse the results, and I'm not happy with the coaches and Eichorst, but you have to look pass the wins and loss column. Bo left a team that was so fundamentally bad it wasn't funny. Tackling, sustaining blocks and penalties were a nightmare over the last 3 years. Let's not forget how bad our S&C had gotten across the board. They weren't prepared at the most basic level to play football. He also poisoned the well when he left town. There are a number of players on this team that haven't bought into the new program. Riley shares some of the blame for this. He needs to take those players off the field, and yes some of them are playing. Charlie Strong has had to go through similar issues at UT. Either get on the bus or stay at the station. We have other people who want to ride. Recruiting was also less than stellar and will require hard work to be built back up. It wasn't a total breakdown as there is some talent here, certainly better than the numbers show. But it hasn't been great either. Now this staff has made enough mistakes this season to warrant some heat. But this was absolutely a rebuild. This team was no where near competing for any kind of trophies before Riley & co. stepped in.
  12. We're really stuck in a damned if you do and damned if you don't scenario aren't we? It's a big chance we take to enter the carousel again, but can we really tolerate the product on the field?
  13. There was some half a$$ed effort in todays game. No doubt. Get onboard or get off. Yup. But the coaches are just as responsible. Not only are these players still around, but being rewarded with game time. Purge the program. It all started with coaching and talent not coming through when it needed to. Now, passion and drive have started to affect them. I think the want to and drive was there for the first half of the season, or, at least the first few games. But, I think teams can only take so much. Sure, some of the guys may be focused, but 125 of them probably are not. And can you blame them? They went from winning 9 games to now probably not even going to a bowl game. They've had coaches telling them do things a certain way all season and it's not transitioning to the field. There's a chance there's doubt in many of their minds. Honestly, I think the season is officially a wash. I'm supporting the players through and through but it just feels like nothing is left of this season, and we're seeing it in the overall performance. Well it goes back to what Benning and Jason Peter said about taking pride in your craft. They're D-1 athletes and it's time to act like it. I can see where they have lost faith in the coaches, but still play with some damn pride. You have to want it. Peters and Benning would be no names under this staff. That's what they don't really "get." Okay? Doesn't invalidate their points. They, like too many people here, equate wins with effort. Wins are a result of superior preparation, of which effort is a component but not alone sufficient. They like to think they gave better effort than these kids because they were getting better results under a far superior HC. Reality check: they may not have been. Secondary reality check, if they gave better effort, it may have been because they saw it paying off under a coaching staff that knew how to win. If they'd played under the abominable mismanagement we see today, maybe they would have "given up" too. Don't get me wrong, I'm calling for the coach's heads as well, but the players need to put in the work. Regardless of who the staff is comprised of, they play for Nebraska. That's not an opportunity that gets laid out to everyone. Either get on the bus or stay at the station. We've got other passengers who would like to ride.
  14. There was some half a$$ed effort in todays game. No doubt. Get onboard or get off. Yup. But the coaches are just as responsible. Not only are these players still around, but being rewarded with game time. Purge the program. It all started with coaching and talent not coming through when it needed to. Now, passion and drive have started to affect them. I think the want to and drive was there for the first half of the season, or, at least the first few games. But, I think teams can only take so much. Sure, some of the guys may be focused, but 125 of them probably are not. And can you blame them? They went from winning 9 games to now probably not even going to a bowl game. They've had coaches telling them do things a certain way all season and it's not transitioning to the field. There's a chance there's doubt in many of their minds. Honestly, I think the season is officially a wash. I'm supporting the players through and through but it just feels like nothing is left of this season, and we're seeing it in the overall performance. Well it goes back to what Benning and Jason Peter said about taking pride in your craft. They're D-1 athletes and it's time to act like it. I can see where they have lost faith in the coaches, but still play with some damn pride. You have to want it. Peters and Benning would be no names under this staff. That's what they don't really "get." Okay? Doesn't invalidate their points.
  15. There was some half a$$ed effort in todays game. No doubt. Get onboard or get off. Yup. But the coaches are just as responsible. Not only are these players still around, but being rewarded with game time. Purge the program. It all started with coaching and talent not coming through when it needed to. Now, passion and drive have started to affect them. I think the want to and drive was there for the first half of the season, or, at least the first few games. But, I think teams can only take so much. Sure, some of the guys may be focused, but 125 of them probably are not. And can you blame them? They went from winning 9 games to now probably not even going to a bowl game. They've had coaches telling them do things a certain way all season and it's not transitioning to the field. There's a chance there's doubt in many of their minds. Honestly, I think the season is officially a wash. I'm supporting the players through and through but it just feels like nothing is left of this season, and we're seeing it in the overall performance. Well it goes back to what Benning and Jason Peter said about taking pride in your craft. They're D-1 athletes and it's time to act like it. I can see where they have lost faith in the coaches, but still play with some damn pride. You have to want it.
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