dergibog Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 I didn't see the intentional grounding call on TMart, but I have a question... Was his forward progress stopped? If it was, then the play is over and there is no intentional grounding, just like Blaine Gabbert's fumble wasn't a fumble because his forward progress was stopped. I'm just saying... Quote Link to comment
papersun87 Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 I thought if it crossed the line of scrimmage then it wasn't grounding. Someone wanna correct me? Quote Link to comment
General Blackshirt Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 There really isn't a difference between intentional grounding and a sack, is there? It's a spot-of-the-foul, loss of down penalty, right? If so, it's the exact same thing as a sack. But i don't know. Maybe the add yards. I don't remember. Quote Link to comment
HuskerJosh Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 I thought if it crossed the line of scrimmage then it wasn't grounding. Someone wanna correct me? Gotta be out of the tackle box for that to be true. Quote Link to comment
oNe Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Also one thing is whether or not the QB is outside of the tackles. Quote Link to comment
oNe Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 I thought if it crossed the line of scrimmage then it wasn't grounding. Someone wanna correct me? Gotta be out of the tackle box for that to be true. Beat me to it. Quote Link to comment
ESPY Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 What about when the QB is in the pocket between the tackles and throws the ball to nothing but open field? Example - In the 3rd qtr, Tannehill threw a deep ball to no man's land, and by "no man's land" I mean no one was within 15 yards of where the ball landed. I think Fuller ran the wrong route, a hook instead of a fly, so the throw was probably not intentional. But, it makes you wonder, doesn't it? Quote Link to comment
HuskerJosh Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 What about when the QB is in the pocket between the tackles and throws the ball to nothing but open field? Example - In the 3rd qtr, Tannehill threw a deep ball to no man's land, and by "no man's land" I mean no one was within 15 yards of where the ball landed. I think Fuller ran the wrong route, a hook instead of a fly, so the throw was probably not intentional. But, it makes you wonder, doesn't it? The QB has to be under duress. It's a judgment call, the refs have to believe he was throwing it to avoid a sack. Of course, Tannehill could have been facing the Spanish Armada, then thrown that ball and we wouldn't have gotten a flag. Quote Link to comment
NoDoubt Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 There really isn't a difference between intentional grounding and a sack, is there? It's a spot-of-the-foul, loss of down penalty, right? If so, it's the exact same thing as a sack. But i don't know. Maybe the add yards. I don't remember. It's 5 yards from the spot of the foul and a loss of down. So just like a sack -5 yards. I know this because in the opening drive of the Texas game Martinez got called for a IG even tho he was on his knees. It just so happens that on the 3rd and 19 that ensued he ended up a yard short and we had to punt, without that faulty penalty the drive would have continued. Quote Link to comment
BIGREDFAN_in_OMAHA Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 There really isn't a difference between intentional grounding and a sack, is there? It's a spot-of-the-foul, loss of down penalty, right? If so, it's the exact same thing as a sack. But i don't know. Maybe the add yards. I don't remember. It's 5 yards from the spot of the foul and a loss of down. So just like a sack -5 yards. I know this because in the opening drive of the Texas game Martinez got called for a IG even tho he was on his knees. It just so happens that on the 3rd and 19 that ensued he ended up a yard short and we had to punt, without that faulty penalty the drive would have continued. Field position wise it would be similar. But a sack would be credited to a players stats and a penalty goes against the team. Quote Link to comment
schuhbdoo Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Taylor needs to learn how to take a sack. That is a bad play and he needs to just learn that. He is still a RSFr. Quote Link to comment
GBRsal Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 10-2 and a north title is pretty good for a rookie - he'll get better Quote Link to comment
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