beorach Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 (edited) Preface/disclaimer/BS: I waited longer than most to join this conversation, right? Maybe things will change but I'm looking at things the same way I did in 2014 (and those posts are still around thanks to this swell website we frequent) because, like Bill Moos, I like to be prepared. Those old posts featured a different methodology, in terms of calculations (don't think I was using z-scores back then), and coaches have changed places but I digress. Do we need to get a guy to get us back in the top 25 regularly first so we can hire a guy to take the next step or are people expecting Bill Moos to hire the latter immediately somehow? We're not Kansas but our current state has to affect the process, right? Hiring a coach is always going to involve some risk but it stands to reason that your program's attractiveness factors in, I mean. p.s. - Do we need a guy who has multiple full seasons experience as a HC already? p.p.s. - Can we break the rules and get a great OC and DC with an administrative head coach? Let's get Joe Moglia, Brett Venables, and <insert greatest OC out there here>...taking care to spend the big dollars on the coordinators (who can bring whomever but the HC has to deal with whomever we can get as far as those coordinators go). While I'm dreaming, would it be as crazy to think we hire a great OL coach to be our OC? Michigan State's guy isn't too long in the tooth and they've always impressed. I know we all discussed another expectation that Eichorst failed to prioritize. We want our team to run the ball first and see the return of the Blackshirts. I guess the latter is generic (have a great defense) but the former is no longer the norm. I have two spreadsheets running now (one with stats from all games between FBS teams and the other from all games between conference teams) and decided to focus only on rushing d, rushing o, scoring d, and turnover margin to figure out what teams out there are the toughest. The only problem with the data right now (aside from it only being data - ;)) is some teams have only played a couple of conference games to date this season. The lists are as follows: All FBS Games Sample Top 25 "Toughest" Teams w/o SOS adjustment 1 Alabama 2 South Florida 3 Notre Dame 4 UCF 5 Ohio State 6 Penn State 7 Georgia 8 Auburn 9 Wisconsin 10 Clemson 11 Washington 12 TCU 13 Miami (Florida) 14 Wake Forest 15 North Carolina State 16 Stanford 17 Kansas State 18 Virginia Tech 19 UTSA 20 Michigan State 21 Michigan 22 San Diego State 23 Duke 24 Oklahoma 25 Appalachian State Nebraska is 89th by this rationale. All FBS Games Sample Top 25 "Toughest" Teams w/ SOS adjustment 1 Alabama 2 Notre Dame 3 Ohio State 4 Penn State 5 Clemson 6 Georgia 7 Auburn 8 Wisconsin 9 South Florida 10 UCF 11 Stanford 12 Miami (Florida) 13 North Carolina State 14 Washington 15 TCU 16 Michigan State 17 Wake Forest 18 Michigan 19 Oklahoma 20 San Diego State 21 Duke 22 Kansas State 23 USC 24 Virginia Tech 25 Oklahoma State Nebraska is 80th by this rationale. Conference Games Only Sample Top 25 "Toughest" Teams w/o SOS adjustment 1 South Florida 2 Alabama 3 Ohio State 4 Toledo 5 Georgia 6 Fresno State 7 Washington 8 Auburn 9 UCF 10 Clemson 11 Michigan State 12 TCU 13 Florida Atlantic 14 Marshall 15 Rice 16 Wisconsin 17 North Carolina State 18 Boise State 19 Appalachian State 20 Penn State 21 Tulane 22 Southern Mississippi 23 Georgia Tech 24 South Alabama 25 Western Michigan Nebraska is 100th by this rationale. Conference Games Only Sample Top 25 "Toughest" Teams w/ SOS adjustment 1 TCU 2 Boise State 3 Clemson 4 Michigan State 5 Tulane 6 South Alabama 7 Charlotte 8 Utah State 9 Toledo 10 Wyoming 11 North Carolina State 12 Georgia Southern 13 Appalachian State 14 Colorado State 15 Florida State 16 Southern Mississippi 17 Stanford 18 Miami (Florida) 19 Texas 20 Wake Forest 21 Washington 22 San Diego State 23 Northern Illinois 24 Wisconsin 25 South Florida Nebraska is 94th by this rationale. Edited October 20, 2017 by beorach 1 Quote Link to comment
brophog Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Turnovers regress to the mean heavily from year to year due to randomness. They should not be used in any such analysis, despite their impact on wins. They'll just add noise. Quote Link to comment
beorach Posted October 20, 2017 Author Share Posted October 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, brophog said: Turnovers regress to the mean heavily from year to year due to randomness. They should not be used in any such analysis, despite their impact on wins. They'll just add noise. I don't know. Our fumbling problems have largely disappeared (84th percentile using the all FBS games sample) since Bo became a Penguin. We still aren't forcing fumbles, of course (15th percentile from same sample). Queue a point about WR drops... Quote Link to comment
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