Hammerhead, if you don't think the players look on here, you are misguided, and even if they don't, their friends and families do, and it gets back to them, and do you think people tell them how great people are talking about them? NO, because that doesn't happen, it is mostly negative. And i only threw out the real fans reference as a talking point to see what people thought. I even stated afterward that it really is up to each of you to decide, and if you think that bashing and being negative and pointing out all that is bad bad bad, then by all means, keep doing it if it makes you feel better. I just wanted to give everyone a different perspective, and quickly realized that unless you are bashing or being negative on this board, there is no place for you here. I will go toe to toe with anyone in a bar or mutual setting discussing the problems and issues that I have with the team, but it doesn't get back to players, and doesn't have an impact. This does, and you can say it doesn't and can think that they hsould be able to handle it, but most of the people on here can't handle me...another voice...coming in here and calling fellow fans out, so how can we expect them to......just sayin.