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It helped Oregon State to below .500 records 3 of the past 5 seasons. I get that one of Riley's main qualifications is being a nice guy. Not sure I've heard that qualification about either Meyer or Harbaugh..... Quick message to all of you people: BE A FAN OF THE UNIVERSITY OF NEBRASKA AND NOT GOD DAMN BO PELINI. HE DOESN'T f'ing COACH HERE ANYMORE, SO HE DOESN'T MATTER TO OUR UNIVERSITY ANYMORE. Oh, and before you point out that you didn't bring up Pellllini it is fairly obvious where you are going with EVERY DAMN COMMENT you make on this board. Just go away, and take all your cronies with you. Why the hell can't you just be a fan of the Nebraska Cornhuskers around here anymore? You my friend are no better then Bo Pelini. Cursing on a public forum.. lol. Oh did anyone see The Buckeyes take on the identity of there Head coach after he got pissed and threw his head set last night. Urban had a meltdown but his team did not. He sure threw the hell out of that headset. I was looking for a visor, LOL

P.S. - was watching both the playoff games yesterday. The difference between what Meyer/Helfrich does and other teams that run the spread (see Baylor yesterday) do? They don't run that check-with-me BS EVERY DAMN PLAY. Baylor ran it with a 32 year old new coordinator and we see what happened.

Ask Bucky what they think of their offense. Their QB was horrendous yesterday (cept for the last two possessions they had). And they still won the game. If Cardale Jones has a terrible game, the Buckeyes don't win that game. I guess I'm having a hard time following you in this thread. An offensive system isn't gimmicky if you know how to run it and see successful. It's gimmicky if you try to run a system but don't have the success of others. It's gimmicky if it's based on the QB being really good and is successful. OSUs offense isn't gimmicky because it is a power run system but last night they would have never won in the QB didn't have good game even though you said he was horrendous. Okay friend - here's basically what I'm saying: Spread: 1. If you are a team that uses this spread and you lack a certain level of execution - maybe you shouldn't be running it. (See Nebraska) 2. If you are a team that uses this spread and your QB lacks a certain level of discipline - maybe you shouldn't be running it. (See Nebraska) 3. If you are a team that uses this spread and you can't recruit the most top level talent - maybe you shouldn't be running it. (See Nebraska) 4. If you are a team that uses this spread and you aren't physical off the ball 100% of the time on offense - maybe you shouldn't be running it (See Nebraska) A pro-style offense can erase most of a QB's deficiencies (cept yesterday in the case of Winston, LOLZ). The reason why both Bammer and Free Shoes got to the championship (even though both their QBs played like garbage at different times during the year) is because of the level of true multiple sets they run out of their pro style offenses. It doesn't get guys recruited (unless you live in Ohio or you give out free shoes like Oregon) to your school in an area that isn't talent rich traditionally (see Baylor). The offense that both Bucky and Sparty played yesterday kept both their QBs in the game, even though both of their QBs had moments where they went full retard (Stave and his picks and that GAWD AWFUL pick by Shaw yesterday). If the wheels fall off when running the spread, they're off. When Bo, on the day he got hired, said he wanted to run an offense like Florida's, I cringed.

We got no grounds to stand on until we start winning these games. Until then, Bucky, Buckeyes, Sparty get all the cred right now.

Ask Bucky what they think of their offense. Their QB was horrendous yesterday (cept for the last two possessions they had). And they still won the game. If Cardale Jones has a terrible game, the Buckeyes don't win that game.

Hence my other thread about offenses. Bucky won despite Stave going full retard (cept for the last two possessions).

And the fact that they are the new Free Shoes University doesn't help, I'm sure

You gotta love it. They won despite Urban. Thought he must have gone to the Bo Pelini School on Coaching. First half - first and goal from the one and they line up in shotgun? With a big QB. Sneak the damn thing 3 times if you have to. Then that last drive pass. What the hell was he thinking. We'll trick em. Was pulling my nose hairs out. GO SEC. Down the tubes. YES! Ohio State has never run under center since Urban Meyer became coach. Switching to that at the goal line could be disastrous. (Since they never practice it) That had less to do with Urban and more to do with Tom Herman, the new head guy at Houston. Buckeye fans can't wait for that guy to leave. They were going thermonuclear last night on that last drive when he threw the ball on first down.

Yeah, running more plays on the stat sheet means absolutely JACK and S**T when you aren't scoring. Did it help to change tempo? Yep. USC has played against up-tempo before. Against some team in the upper Northwestern states somewhere.... My overriding point? If you're going to run this (what I call) gimmicky type stuff - then stick with just that. Recruit to it. Run it to PERFECTION. But you'd better have a plan to get up under center and smack a mofo in the mouth when you need a few yards.

You guys who think that Frost is the #1 reason why Oregon is so dominant are mistaken. Mark Helfrich was the Offensive coordinator for four years prior to becoming the HC. Frost needs to get some more experience before you can say he's the 2nd coming.

Funny thing about running an offense - when you stick with it, and it's working, run it. Not true to it, find different ways to stick with it and make it work? Disaster. Point in case: Lane Kiffin starts to panic and decides to go with dual back guns. Runs his fullback out into the flats, keeps Yeldon in for protection. Luke Fickell zone blitzes, drops Miller into coverage: Miller was out in the flat to cover because the fullback came out. Bammer has been best this year running the ball and if passing, throwing screens, and obviously getting Cooper the ball. This was a play that was noticable to me because of the confusion ON the play prior to the snap. I just knew that Saban would call a timeout on this play. He didn't. Result? Meyer was getting big runs, but no scores. He didn't panic - he stuck to it and BLAM! Elliott is player of the game with two plus bills. Just be true to who you are on the field. Are we Nebraska, or Ohio State/Oregon? Be who we are - run what we can, and execute it to perfection. Do that and not too many teams can stop you, no matter who you are.

I've coached the zone read before. It is gimmicky. Why? Because it all depends on the play of one single player. See - Urban Meyer and Mark Helfrich are doing so well with their respective ball clubs because their QB play has been lights out. Only with Meyer, his QB play has been lights out with three different guys (which is why he'll be the national COY). Cardale Jones/JT Barrett have been successful in the passing game, which opens up Elliott in the running game. Helfrich has the Heisman Trophy winner at QB who is extremely effective and very DISCIPLINED with the football. He's thrown, what, four picks this year? This offense works if the QB is successful, and execution is PHYSICAL at the point of attack. Go back and look at Elliott's long run in the 4th from last night. Receiver got a huge crackback block. Execution and physicality. Tech runs an OPTION offense, not a spread. The option they run is a very physicial type of offense. But yes, if they don't hit the few passes they throw down the field (see the ACC Championship game), then they are behind the 8 ball. But their offense is based on being PHYSICAL at the point of attack. Five turnovers. Bammer scored 14 off turnovers too. Not saying that game in Pasedena would go any differently if they held on to the football, but Free Shoes been playing with fire all year long. See above. Here's my point I'm trying to make here. Urban Meyer can run that offense because he recruits to run it, and he KNOWS HOW TO RUN IT. Huskers aren't built that way anymore, and can't recruit that way. When the Huskers were contending for championships, other teams (that were running traditional offenses) saw something. They said, "Hey - Nebraska has made a living on this...those guys may be onto something...?" So what'd they do? Start recruiting players like that. That's why you have an Oregon, TCU, Florida that are contending for championships. But again, with that being said.....if you're not successful, you can't recruit to that type of player. Look at the goal-to-go situations for Ohio State in the first half last night. Bammer was slamming the door on them early on. If you can't line up and get 3 to 5 yards from under center, it says something. I just don't like the style of offense because if you don't have the hosses for it - it lacks a physicality to it when you need it late in a game. That's all. EDIT: My argument? Baylor, Auburn, Navy, Arizona, Mississippi State, and yes, Nebraska all run a very similar style of spread offense. All 0-fer. Why? When they needed toughness at a certain point, they only had finesse. FYI.... My comment was sarcasm. What everyone is talking about is simply different systems. What you have pointed out is the fact that any system is successful if you recruit good talent to run it. The word gimmicky is simply used to describe an offense someone doesn't like. Every successful offense is based on doing something well that sets up the rest. There is nothing gimmicky about that. LOL - no probs. I call it offense when you plan to run it. When you run it cause you see someone else do it (and you aren't true to who you need to be), then I call it gimmicky.

Does Alabama even have a fullback? Man, yeah. He was ballin, just like Watt was yesterday for Bucky, too. People just don't notice a fullback, that's all. They just didn't know their offensive coordinator was going to go full retard on em and stop running the ball. I know Watt at Wisconsin. I am gonna have to go back and look at Bama. I really dont remember a Fullback. Here we go: And next (zone blocking, same play): Result?

Does Alabama even have a fullback? Man, yeah. He was ballin, just like Watt was yesterday for Bucky, too. People just don't notice a fullback, that's all. They just didn't know their offensive coordinator was going to go full retard on em and stop running the ball.

I've coached the zone read before. It is gimmicky. Why? Because it all depends on the play of one single player. See - Urban Meyer and Mark Helfrich are doing so well with their respective ball clubs because their QB play has been lights out. Only with Meyer, his QB play has been lights out with three different guys (which is why he'll be the national COY). Cardale Jones/JT Barrett have been successful in the passing game, which opens up Elliott in the running game. Helfrich has the Heisman Trophy winner at QB who is extremely effective and very DISCIPLINED with the football. He's thrown, what, four picks this year? This offense works if the QB is successful, and execution is PHYSICAL at the point of attack. Go back and look at Elliott's long run in the 4th from last night. Receiver got a huge crackback block. Execution and physicality. Tech runs an OPTION offense, not a spread. The option they run is a very physicial type of offense. But yes, if they don't hit the few passes they throw down the field (see the ACC Championship game), then they are behind the 8 ball. But their offense is based on being PHYSICAL at the point of attack. Five turnovers. Bammer scored 14 off turnovers too. Not saying that game in Pasedena would go any differently if they held on to the football, but Free Shoes been playing with fire all year long. See above. Here's my point I'm trying to make here. Urban Meyer can run that offense because he recruits to run it, and he KNOWS HOW TO RUN IT. Huskers aren't built that way anymore, and can't recruit that way. When the Huskers were contending for championships, other teams (that were running traditional offenses) saw something. They said, "Hey - Nebraska has made a living on this...those guys may be onto something...?" So what'd they do? Start recruiting players like that. That's why you have an Oregon, TCU, Florida that are contending for championships. But again, with that being said.....if you're not successful, you can't recruit to that type of player. Look at the goal-to-go situations for Ohio State in the first half last night. Bammer was slamming the door on them early on. If you can't line up and get 3 to 5 yards from under center, it says something. I just don't like the style of offense because if you don't have the hosses for it - it lacks a physicality to it when you need it late in a game. That's all. EDIT: My argument? Baylor, Auburn, Navy, Arizona, Mississippi State, and yes, Nebraska all run a very similar style of spread offense. All 0-fer. Why? When they needed toughness at a certain point, they only had finesse.

Interesting. Is there an article or interview on this? See above post.

As opposed to a guy who went to UCF and for all we know, walked onto the football team and never lettered? As opposed to a guy who went to Va Tech and for all we know, never played a down of football? Yep - let's pay the first guy close to three quarters of a million bucks and the second guy, we'll put him in charge of this complex defensive scheme that we've decided to run.

Fake Bo Pelini‏@FauxPelini Dec 28 .@NFLCOMMISH Pls suspend Aaron Rodgers for trying to trip Suh

That block on Sullivan was only illegal because the NFL Rules Committee changed the rule the year PRIOR.

And the same two coaches' thoughts on which one they'd use: And that's why Glen Mason does games, and Gerry DiNardo is in the cushy studio job. Dude was right on all accounts, especially about Urban Meyer.

This spread style of offense is p**syfying the game of football right now. While it has moments of toughness - it lacks a certain physical toughness. Pistol: Spread:

Gordon's star power has subsided...

I am going to respectfully disagree here. Why? You realize among active quarterbacks his senior season he had the 3rd best career passer rating behind Sam Bradford and Tim Tebow? Better passer rating, better completion percentage, more yardage, better runner. Not saying that's proof of anything but I don't know how you take one over the other. Zac Taylor has a much higher football IQ and made the correct play more often than Ganz. Joe would force a lot of passes and threw a ton of picks, many of which were under zero pressure. Zac had a much worse supporting cast, and honestly probably won us 4-5 games a season just on his ability to stand in the pocket and deliver the ball for first downs knowing he was going to get creamed. I liked Joe Ganz. I am also going to get murdered for this, but he is probably the most overrated QB in Nebraska Football history. IMHO I think folks loved Ganz more because he WASN'T Sam Keller.

Aaaaand Romo probably just shate himself.