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You serious? Bo was wrong, and everyone agrees with this. Bo has to own this, and if it eventually leads to his ouster I won't agree with it but I won't protest it. Most folks feel the same - although like most folks, I don't think Bo is in jeopardy for this tape. But Bo being wrong doesn't absolve the idiot who leaked this. Situations can have multiple wrong sides, and this is one of them. Nobody is putting the blame that Bo deserves on the leaker. Not sure where you're coming up with that. I don't really care about the leak, its just a sideshow that is distracting from the real issue, an under performing coach. That is where I am coming from. Even worse, to a degree it may be creating sympathy for Bo by some, when as I added to the original post he is his own worst enemy with his unprofessional behavior. When you make millions per year, you might want to grow up a little especially if it means keeping your job or not!

Here is a bit more on Armstrong, early enough in the recruiting process that Fuller and Starling were still even in play and discussed: http://www.huskerloc...-from-safe-5446 "Against some of the best competition in the state of Texas, Armstrong finished his senior year going 83 of 139 (59.7%) for 1,475 yards and 23 touchdowns with his lone pick the result of a tipped ball. He ran for 1,052 yards on 121 carries (8.69 YPC) tallying 11 touchdowns on the ground. More importantly, he already has a good throwing motion to build off of." Let me tell you, I lived in San Antonio a long time, and never even heard of Cibolo Steele before Tommy Armstrong. What was he born, about 1995? Why would he come to NU? My bet is he had a Dad who knew all about 1995 NU and it's quarterback, and saw the same attributes in his son and encouraged his interest in coming. He was locked up for NU early and never really looked too hard or visited anywhere else. What do you think?

I feel if you evaluate the film and what he flashed against SMU, objectively what you will see is physical ability eerily similar to our legend Tommie, but with better throwing ability, and I know people have a hard time believing he could be our "next Frazier" for fear of a letdown. These coaches owe it to Husker Nation at this point to determine what we have in TA, as even a slightly watered down version of Frazier could be enough to get us to the BIG championship level. Here is a quote about his Spring game play: http://bleacherrepor...s-heir-apparent "He showed vision and acceleration as he read the defense, made his decisions on options and attacked the holes he was given. Armstrong finished the game with 10 carries for 39 yards. Armstrong got to show off his arm as well. He finished the game 5-of-7 for 102 yards and a 37-yard touchdown to Alonzo Moore. But the highlight of the game for Armstrong may have been the 32-yard strike he completed to Brandon Reilly. When the ball was thrown, Reilly was double-covered, and most fans thought the pass would be incomplete at best or intercepted at worst. Instead, Armstrong dropped the ball into Reilly’s hands through an incredibly narrow window, giving the Red team a first down and keeping alive a drive that ultimately led to a missed field goal."

Played a little against Southern Miss. Ran the option with authority. Not afraid to lower shoulder. Didn't throw, but rumor is he has a cannon for an arm. Staff has said he is a natural leader and the "it" factor. He passes the eyeball test. Appears to have the swagger needed at the position. Will be interesting to see of he oes Sat. Knee was a little slow to rehab. Glad he got action last week to test it out. Welcome o the board. This. He is exactly what this offense needs IMO. He brings electricity to this offense because he is quick elusive and a leader. If Beck wants a run-first offense then he is our guy. If he wants a pass first then RKIII is our guy from what i've seen. But I have heard TA also has a cannon. Perfect time for him to get some experience and to see the future of our offense. All the top QBs can make something out of nothing like the Wyoming guy and Hundley just did to us. Manzell would be the extreme example, that guy is amazing with those quick feet and elusiveness. You don't see him whining about the offensive line, he just refuses to be sacked or beaten on any play. Defenders will beat a block multiple times over the course of a game and the QB can never let one man take him down. TA showed that type of ability on film, and it is the very definition of the leadership you need at QB. It sets the tone for the entire team, vs. curling in a ball and being sacked, or trying futilely to run to the outside and not making it.

I don't have a problem with a split reps, then we could get a better comparison of the two. What I'd really like to see is a split between TM (once healthy) and TA, to give the other team that much more to worry about!

I think stupidity has been the main nemesis of this coaching staff, which could cause "analysis paralysis" that would appear the same as being ball less. Armstrong was the #5 rated QB in the country. Oregon offered and wanted to pluck him out of Texas similar to what they did with LaMichael James. Given the style of offense they run, that should tell you something. TA also goes about 220 pounds, Frazier came on campus weighing 180-190. What I am getting at is TA is more physically mature and already took a shirt to learn the system. The play calling when he finally got in should tell you something, this guy can really move the ball with his feet. He's confident and elusive. He can throw on the run. All the types of problems with TM's game appear to be TA strengths. Check the film, that Texas 5A ball he's dominating, second largest division. Assuming he can't throw well is a mistake. With respect to playing RK III, I get it, people want the local kid walk on to make good, what a story. I am more concerned with winning this year and next, and I think TA gives a better chance for that. You say RK III is a better passer, well I don't care a mobile QB can be a less accurate passer as long as he doesn't turn the ball over. TA threw barely any ints in high school, incredible 29 to 2 touchdown to int ratio. Nothing against RK III, but if we are ever going to get back to a conference championship level, who do you think is really going to get us there? I really hope we don't see a boring "game manager" performance from RK III while TA rides the pine Saturday. As has been mentioned, why do you think we keep losing highly regarded recruits to transfers. If in doubt, go TA!

The fact that anyone thinks we need to force Bo out, especially a well heeled booster, is sad but I don't blame them for feeling that way. Bo's behavior on that tape was inexcusable. Deflecting the blame on the "leaker" as if it was their fault, nah just not buying that. SMH at all the rants about what a lilly livered no good low down rotten scum bag the leaker was, as if they forced Bo to spew all that putrid language at gun point or something! Bo has always been his own worst enemy when it comes to unprofessional behavior.

I didn't think that all when I saw TA play. I saw poised and aggressive, among other things. TM peaked 4 seasons ago. It is about who can win now. While that may still be a healthy TM, we are way past due to see someone else at the helm. Our schedule is so weak I could probably coach and QB us to 9 wins. If TM gets us one or two more, I don't really care heading into next season vs. the 9 that are a gimmee.

I just found this Tim Beck quote from today (post practice) posted over at another board: "If Taylor can go he will go. I trust Taylor to tell me if he can go." Typical of these coaches! Duh the guy is hurt, you have a bye week coming up and the (hopefully) weakest opponent on your schedule. Your mobile gimpy legged QB just played 2.5 horrific quarters while your team was blown out in the process. However, you will let that player tell you if he is well enough to play next game that is 3 days away when he's not even able to practice? Wow, just wow.

Frosty is building a strong resume and would be a popular hire, but would he really even want to come back to Lincoln?

Hold the phone. I am not going to get excited about the prospects of seeing another QB until it's announced that will happen. As far as upside, I can't imaging R K III outdoing Tommy in the wow factor. If RK III comes in and plays exclusively while game managing us to an ugly victory, I won't be too excited about that. I'll take it of course, but blah it just sets the stage for more mediocrity. I tend to be an eternal optimist about NU football, but right now my optimism rides squarely on the shoulder of BP's decision and hopefully Tommy A's shoulders (and feet and arm for that matter). I hope BP chooses well, his job may actually be on the line here.

"We all knew what we were getting when we clamored for this guy in 2007. Profanity-laced tirades directed at your own fanbase are not the kind of thing that gets a head coach fired. They erode a massive chunk of your support, but they are not fireable offensive in and of themselves." Really? I've been cheering for BP to do well from the get go, but the hire was a rather blah one to me from the outset. Bo has not done much to change that perspective since either, aside from inheriting Suh.

Exactly! Playing a mobile QB with a bad wheel is ridiculous, but as has been stated, we've also seen that movie before...

I will confess I have been counting the days to see Tommy take over at QB for us. For any star-watchers that may be concerned with his mere high 3-star rating on Rivals, he was a 4-star on Scout and also their #5 rated QB in the country in 2011. This smells like deja vu Grant--> Frazier or even Mauer---> Gill if anyone can remember that far back. Time to get this kid on the field and give him a chance! Here's a July Article on this topic (http://nebraska.scou.../2/1311848.html):

I thought Jameis was from Alabama?

I saw Tommy do many things TM can't and he was obviously a man among boys in high school. Offers from Oregon, UCLA, TCU, GA Tech, hmmm... I have to laugh though, because when I or others have said that we can't wait to see him play, they believe its only because he ran the option a few times well against Southern Miss. But RK III is such a good thrower, they say. LMAO PS Thought it funny Texas didn't offer but if I recall correctly they came calling very late and he had no interest. Hilarious when you consider Texas has yet another underachieving 5-star pro-style QB, another 3-star McCoy brother QB (who's no Colt), and basically not one QB I'm aware of that we'd want on our roster.

Before Nebraska (Cibolo Steele HS) Armstrong Jr. was the only scholarship quarterback in Nebraska’s 2012 freshman class and was considered one of the nation’s top dual-threat quarterbacks. The 6-1, 215-pound Armstrong led Cibolo Steele High School to the Class 5A state championship game each of his final two seasons. Armstrong led Steele to 15 straight victories in 2011, before a loss in the state championship game. Armstrong produced huge numbers both as a runner and a passer as a senior. He finished with 1,281 rushing yards and 16 touchdowns, while passing for 1,945 yards and 29 touchdowns against just two interceptions, completing nearly 59 percent of his passes. Armstrong showed his all-around ability during Steele’s run to the state title game. In the quarterfinals, he threw for 279 yards and three touchdowns, while also rushing for a touchdown. A week later in a semifinal victory, Armstrong had 139 rushing yards and four touchdowns, while passing for another score. In 2011, Armstrong was named to the San Antonio Express News All-Area team as an all-purpose player and he was the District 25-5A Offensive MVP. Armstrong also earned first-team all-district honors as a junior, when he led Cibolo Steele to a 14-2 record and a Class 5A Division II state championship. In 2010, Armstrong ran for more than 500 yards and eight touchdowns, while completing better than 51 percent of his passes for 1,343 yards and 19 touchdowns, with just two interceptions. Armstrong was regarded as the No. 5 quarterback in the country and 18th-best overall prospect in the state of Texas by Scout.com, while Rivals.com ranked him among the top 50 players in Texas and one of the nation’s top 10 dual-threat signal callers. Armstrong played in the Offense-Defense Bowl in Arlington, Texas, following his senior season. Armstrong is one of two Texans in the Huskers’ 2012 class and gives NU at least one Lone Star State representative in its signing class for the 12th straight year. He only visited Nebraska, but had offers from coast to coast, including Georgia Tech, Oregon, Kansas, Missouri, Mississippi State, Southern Miss, TCU and UCLA. Height: 6'1" Weight: 220 Redshirt freshman, not wasting that year was the smartest thing Bo has done that I can remember. I'm going to add here that those clamoring to see Tommy (such as myself), probably follows recruiting and had an idea this is most likely our solution and future at QB. RKIII makes for a great backup ala Matt Turman, but he's a senior and we are wisest to get Tommy experience now and a better handle on whether he is our future QB or not. My hunch is this guy is the real deal.

Didn't know that. Well key point here is that is was a very long and winding road for them that took 25 years to accomplish.

Are you serious, we still don't do ANY full speed practices with contact? WOW

I disagree, yet I will also say that it is just further reasoning why a playoff is good for college football. Although I would prefer 8 teams to 4. http://www.thepostga...hompson-sec-bcs Great article, thanks! 8 teams would be better then the SEC could have 6 in there instead of 3! I'd like a 12-team playoff, where the top 4 get a bye the first week.

All we hear about lately is how great the Bama program is, what a dynasty, etc. I thought it would be useful to look back at their highly checkered 25-year period from 1983-2007, after Bear Bryant retired in 1982. Here are some numbers for Bama from 1983-2007: Record including vacated wins: 173-111-1 Average wins per year: 7.2 Average wins excluding 29 vacated/forfeited wins: 8.4 Years with wins forfeited, vacated, or bowl ineligible: 7 (all in the 15-year period from 1993-2007). Coaches: 7 Losing seasons (excludes the 29 foregone wins): 5 Outright conference championships: 2 National championships: 1 (1992, but 1993 team forfeited 9 games the following year due to NCAA violations and was 1-12 officially. Hard to believe 92 should have counted too.) Alabama was viewed as a model program under Bear Bryant, but when he retired in 1982 the program fell apart and there was a coaching turnstile of 6 coaches interrupted during the relative stability and success of the Stallings era from 1990-1996. Unfortunately that period was also tainted with Alabama becoming the cheatingest program in college football, which resulted in multiple NCAA violations, 3 years of bowl ineligibility, and the further embarrassment of vacating 29 wins. The cheating and resulting penalties ran all the way from 1993 to 2007, I would surmise as a result of Alabama booster’s and coaches intense pressure and zeal to resume their place among college football’s elite. Saban was clearly the right choice, at least unless/until they are caught cheating again but let’s hope they’ve learned their lesson. However, Alabama had to endure 6 coaches to get there while cheating rampantly with only limited success on the field. Also since Bama has learned how to “game” the recruiting system through rampant oversigning and not honoring 4-year scholarships, that may be enough of an advantage for them. This tells us little about what to do about Bo, other than it is not easy getting back to elite status for any program once they fall (and they all do sooner or later), and may require multiple coaching changes. It does reinforce that the right coach can make a difference almost immediately, but it took Bama almost 25 years to finally get there, unless you view the Stallings “win at all costs” era that plagued the school for well over a decade of NCAA probation and forfeited games worth one national championship. I will leave off with a final question, is this type of checkered past worth it to you? Whatever happens with Bo, next time someone jabs about a loss or how great Bama or the rest of the cheating SEC is, think about all of this and take pride in being a Husker fan no matter what. Replacing a legend is tough, but we have done if far more gracefully so far than Bama did, "Pelini Profanity" notwithstanding. We will get through this and be great again.

I just flew with my son from Tennessee to attend the SMU game! It was awesome, the program is MUCH MUCH bigger than Bo. Also with our weak schedule and talent I could probably coach this team to 9 wins!

With the soft schedule, it is an ideal time to get a backup some real game experience. If Bo stubbornly sticks to TM full time, we will know he truly is a scared deer in the headlights in way over his head. This could be a pivotal stretch for HCBP.

Benching Martinez for a series is not the answer. I did not think permanently benching him was either, but a time share may actually work here.

Spot on, the guy has been in over his head from day one. We have always had big problems on one side of the ball or the other since he took over.