cm husker

No kidding. Pelini is gone and we replaced him with a nicer person, but a much worse football coach. It will take a few more seasons to say that with any accuracy. Actually, he could be 100% accurate right now, but you could indeed claim it would take a few seasons to confirm it. Of course. That's the whole point. If NU tanks this seasons, i.e., loses out, this staff should be summarily fired and Frost or gill or just about anyone else should be brought in. There would be absolutely no excuse for such a collapse, and it would all but confirm this was the wrong hire. Waiting 3 to 4 years to confirm it would be a waste of time and would risk NU falling into true obscurity. Good thing your voice has no impact on anything. Sounds like you've got a real clear plan there. Fire everybody and bring in ANYBODY! Hey, just like the "anybody but Bo" crowd. Only this time we'd have a chance to improve our situation.

9 games into Bo's first season he had two blowouts to the tune of 52-17 and 62-28. Those mostly disappeared the next two years, but then reared their extremely ugly heads all of the next four seasons. Riley's been in every game thus far. Without making a claim about that specifically, I'll say that if Riley can start winning more of the close ones, and gets to the 9/10 win average, while avoiding the 50+ to 30- blowout games, he'll be just fine. Those bad losses... has NU played any teams this season that were of the caliber of those opponents? But I'm glad you're onboard with no canning .700 coaches.

You've been lambasting this over and over in every thread you comment on and it's simply not proven yet. The sample size is large enough to know that they're not beating bottom dwellers but as it stands all their losses have been to teams with no fewer than 3 losses and they've only played one team with a losing record. I'm thinking you've misread this and many of my other posts if you think I'm defending Riley's product. I know you're not. That's my point. You're regurgitating substance-less fodder. Then your post calling me makes no sense (or works against you... "no fewer than 3 losses"... each of those should have 4 losses)

You've been lambasting this over and over in every thread you comment on and it's simply not proven yet. The sample size is large enough to know that they're not beating bottom dwellers but as it stands all their losses have been to teams with no fewer than 3 losses and they've only played one team with a losing record. I'm thinking you've misread this and many of my other posts if you think I'm defending Riley's product.

No kidding. Pelini is gone and we replaced him with a nicer person, but a much worse football coach. It will take a few more seasons to say that with any accuracy. Actually, he could be 100% accurate right now, but you could indeed claim it would take a few seasons to confirm it. Of course. That's the whole point. If NU tanks this seasons, i.e., loses out, this staff should be summarily fired and Frost or gill or just about anyone else should be brought in. There would be absolutely no excuse for such a collapse, and it would all but confirm this was the wrong hire. Waiting 3 to 4 years to confirm it would be a waste of time and would risk NU falling into true obscurity.

Close losses are not an indication that they may turn into wins. And NU hasn't faced a team as good as any of the teams that beat NU big in the past few years.

Yeah, but it's entirely possible the toxic stew and threadbare depth at Nebraska might have a direct impact on our current football program. Bo Pelini's name is gonna come up for years. Just as Solich and Callahan and Pederson do. This roster is not threadbare in terms of talent. Despite injuries, the team is fielding talented players. attrition is about equal to all other programs. Im sick of this player bashing based excuse. There's not a team in America that doesn't appear thin at a position here or a position there.

No kidding. Pelini is gone and we replaced him with a nicer person, but a much worse football coach. It will take a few more seasons to say that with any accuracy. Actually, he could be 100% accurate right now, but you could indeed claim it would take a few seasons to confirm it. To confirm that a career .500 coach will continue to be .500. What's interesting to me is the thought experiment that Riley gets up to 9/10 wins a season consistently got a period of 5 years. Does NU keep him? Because at least some here argue that if Bo was nicer, he would have been retained. For others, they say that "plateauing" at that level is an unacceptable failure. Personally, I think he should be retained if he does that, just like I thought Bo should be. Then again, it's likely moot, as he'll be nearing retirement.

This play? https://vine.co/v/eYO9mQi3IvE Found in the Creativity in the Run Game thread http://www.huskerboard.com/index.php?/topic/77085-creativity-in-the-run-game/page-3 Got the first down, right?

Wrong again. Which part? http://m.journalstar.com/sports/columnists/sipple/steven-m-sipple-osborne-s-sense-of-calm-will-be/article_4728be79-4ff7-5d81-9b58-4d61ccf004d4.html?mobile_touch=true There's getting to be a decent list of fail lying at the man's feet. When posters claim so and so are against the program and are sabotaging it, it almost appears they're placing blame on the wrong person. He's had a hand in some pretty dismal hires the past couple of decades. And this is and will always be a fundamental divide in husker nation. Neither frank nor Bo were dismal hires.

Wrong again. Which part? http://m.journalstar.com/sports/columnists/sipple/steven-m-sipple-osborne-s-sense-of-calm-will-be/article_4728be79-4ff7-5d81-9b58-4d61ccf004d4.html?mobile_touch=true There's getting to be a decent list of fail lying at the man's feet. When posters claim so and so are against the program and are sabotaging it, it almost appears they're placing blame on the wrong person. He's had a hand in some pretty dismal hires the past couple of decades. And this is and will always be a fundamental divide in husker nation. Neither frank nor Bo were dismal hires.

Wrong again. Which part? http://m.journalstar.com/sports/columnists/sipple/steven-m-sipple-osborne-s-sense-of-calm-will-be/article_4728be79-4ff7-5d81-9b58-4d61ccf004d4.html?mobile_touch=true What part of that story, written a decade after the event, supports your statements above?

You've just lost any chance at any credibility whatsoever. What, you don't think the guy that identified and recruited Mike Rozier wanted to turn the #1 RB prospect in the country into a defensive back?

Are you saying that Tommy is better than the "uninformed" fans are giving him credit for, or that our backups are worse? That he's much better than our uninformed fans believe (or at least claim in order to cling to the hope the current staff is an upgrade).

Yeah, TO is awful at hiring coaches. What a terrible staff he had all of those years...

Wrong again.

I doubt many fans are overly gloomy about the staff because of the 3-5 record. Not sure but I doubt it. My guess is that most of the excessive negativity is coming from a small minority of vocal (vocal *now*) fans. Some of the small group are people who really don't understand analytics at all. 3-5 to them is dispositive. The end. Then there are some agenda folks anti mike, AD, or Perlman plus some pro Bo's. And last but not least are the complainers. They do it because it's what they do. 3-5 is good fodder. Zoogs thanks for the op. Interesting. I'm not anti-Mike (but am very anti-Pederson, I mean Eichorst, and his boss). NU screwed up big time going against what TO thought was best for football. We'll suffer the penalty, and all the pretzeled "analytics" aside, this is a .500 staff doing what a .500 staff does. Knute Rockne and Bob Devaney would have a hell of a chuckle over this nonsense. And of course the bottom line is that NU didn't upgrade at all. At best we stayed the same, but have a super nice laid back senior citizen coaching the Huskers now. This mentality is defeatist. It's low hanging fruit. It's pointless. Most of all, it's largely untrue and baseless. The scheme is completely different and is necessary to compete with the teams currently winning championships. Look at the teams in the B1G that run the same pro-style scheme. Wisconsin Michigan Michigan State Iowa Ohio State Illinois Penn State Rutgers Those all look like teams doing well. Look at the nationally recognized programs doing the same. USC UCLA Alabama Florida Oklahoma Georgia Florida State Clemson etc etc....you get the point, but this guy thinks Nebraska needs to run the triple option to be successful. He even referenced Knute Rockne and Bob Devaney, so that must make his opinion have more merit. Oregon, Georgia Tech may be diamonds in the rough, but Navy, Army, Air Force, and any other team running an outdated scheme is proof that it doesn't work and that's why you don't see it being run all over the country like it once was. Stop ignoring the game has changed an entire generation later since success has been had in this state. Ohio St runs a pro system? Hilarious. Very few teams in the country ran TO's system. Obviously he shouldn't have been using it...

It fits the narrative so people will push that agenda. Tom Osborne was around Pelini a lot. He had an opportunity to hire Gill and he had an opportunity to fire Pelini. Instead, he doubled down on him and also endorsed him for subsequent jobs. Why do some Husker fans insist believing they know more about Nebraska football success than Tom Osborne? What sort of arrogance does that require? I'll make my own judgement based on what we know about Bo's character and attitude he instilled within the program. What do you know about Bo? Any personal interactions with the man or are you just going off of the media reports? I'm taking my feelings directly from Bo's own words. His true character shows when he doesn't realize he is being taped. Problem is, you don't have all of his private time on tape. That's why it's bad to take these things out of context. Personally, I never had a single problem with his post OSU comments. Personally, I agreed with them.

It fits the narrative so people will push that agenda. Tom Osborne was around Pelini a lot. He had an opportunity to hire Gill and he had an opportunity to fire Pelini. Instead, he doubled down on him and also endorsed him for subsequent jobs. Why do some Husker fans insist believing they know more about Nebraska football success than Tom Osborne? What sort of arrogance does that require? Tom Osborne hired Pederson. Untrue.

It fits the narrative so people will push that agenda. Tom Osborne was around Pelini a lot. He had an opportunity to hire Gill and he had an opportunity to fire Pelini. Instead, he doubled down on him and also endorsed him for subsequent jobs. Why do some Husker fans insist believing they know more about Nebraska football success than Tom Osborne? What sort of arrogance does that require? I'll make my own judgement based on what we know about Bo's character and attitude he instilled within the program. What do you know about Bo? Any personal interactions with the man or are you just going off of the media reports?

It fits the narrative so people will push that agenda. Tom Osborne was around Pelini a lot. He had an opportunity to hire Gill and he had an opportunity to fire Pelini. Instead, he doubled down on him and also endorsed him for subsequent jobs. Why do some Husker fans insist believing they know more about Nebraska football success than Tom Osborne? What sort of arrogance does that require?

I love Woodhead, but he wouldn't have been a great fit for NU's style of offense at the time. That said, maybe with talent like that, you consider adapting the system around him. Hard to say where he ends up if Frank is retained. I'm wondering where the myth about Reggie Bush being turned away got started, though. That's a new one...

Johnny's opinion in this case is about as informed as most people's on this board. These former players should know better.. they know that people outside the program, even former members, simply don't know what's going on inside the program today. I would be dollars against dimes that Rodgers hasn't even talked to a recent player lately.

Maybe Tommy could finish up early and transfer to Oregon for post grad work. That would make Oregon really happy and it would probably make an uniformed segment of NU fans, which is apparently quite large, happy as well.

Get him cm husker! This focker Cavanaugh thinks he know more about coaching the offensive line than you do! That derty sumbeach! Huh? Not sure why you threw this in this thread or called me out about substitutions. I've not said much, if anything, on the topic. But because you raised it, Cavanaugh is extremely misguided if he thinks these kids are going to "get ready" while never touching the field. Practice is great, but it can't simulate game situations. I don't care what the NFL does; guys rotate and need to rotate in college because that's how you gain experience and prepare for when the class turnsover. This is discussions is really related to another significant concern I have about this offense and the philosophy being instilled now: if you can't pass block, you can't play. That's why we have guys like Wilbon, who has showed flashes of real ability as a dynamic running back, riding the pine. Because the premium put on "pass pro" keeps guys on the bench. As I've said, Ameer would have struggled to see the field in this offense. And the same is true of certain OL men. Pass blocking is one of the most difficult tasks, mentally and physically, that you can put on an OL. It takes a ton of time in practice to work the various looks an OL may face in a given game and understand exactly how it fits together. Run blocking on the contrary, though it can be more complicated, is less reaction based and more aggressive. A guy has to learn his assignment and go execute, not learn his assignment based on a variety of situations, read the correct situation at game speed and then execute. I have a simple philosophy when it comes to college offense: reduce the number of "choices" or reads for a players by putting D's in a position where they have to commit to one look or another. This is true of the passing game, which is why I like option employed, as it simplifies defensive coverages usually. It's why I like run based offenses, because it makes it "easier" on the OL to know what he's doing and go out and exert his will on the opponent. No one can tell me that guys like Tanner Farmer, with his physical ability alone, doesn't deserve a look at game speed. We need to run an offense that gives our playmakers a chance. I heard that Tanner Farmer has stiff hips and that they're still trying to loosen him up. You can have all of the strength in the world, but if you can't rotate your body quickly as an offensive lineman you'll perform with bad technique and won't be in the right position to make a block. That would be surprising from a state champion wrestler, but ok...