LukeinNE

I don't really care that he didn't publicly say "Bo Pelini is coming back - period," until after the game. As a method of controlling the media, I think his "evaluate when the season ends" stance is a good one. That said, while we can't know exactly what happened, I think he pretty clearly kept Bo in the dark as well, and that contributed to the catastrophic outcome of the Iowa game. If he hadn't decided to keep him yet, that's one thing - but how could he not have? The Iowa game went worse than almost anyone could've imagined, so I have to believe that if Eichorst hadn't already decided, Bo would've been gone. Which comes back to what I think was Eichorst's fumble: we may not have beaten Iowa, but it would've been a heck of a lot closer had Bo not lost his mind, and I doubt he loses his mind if he's been told he's NU's guy in 2014, no matter what happens.

Ambition and ego. Maybe a smidge of duty to country. But mostly ambition and ego.

I don't think anybody supports fossil fuels as the future of energy. The argument is that green energy just isn't quite there yet (in the case of electricity generation, not even close to there), and that it will necessarily take time to develop green technologies in order to minimize disruptions in the transition phase.

The objection that immediately springs into my mind is what happens when it's raining sideways for the McNeese St. game? Goodbye, sellout streak.

Does this mean our increased Big Ten revenue shares are finally rolling in? I can never remember when that happens.

If the Huskers surprise people (outside of Nebraska, of course) it'll be due to the offensive line. Nearly every pre-season profile for the Huskers I've seen dings our potential because we have to "rebuild" our offensive line, without noting what our offensive line situation looked like last year.

Good column. Here's another good one - from the man who defended George Zimmerman. http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/13/opinion/omara-michael-brown-police-shooting-racial-injustice/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

Back to the topic of the thread: the data that you provided on the last page reinforced a truism: racial bias exists. Nobody on here disputes that it exists. The issue is that there's an enormous gap between racial bias existing and blacks living in an "oppressed state" as you put it. That's where the disagreements are, and I'd still welcome an expansion on that area from you. That being said... If you want to withdraw from any conversation, the only person stopping you is yourself.

Plausible deniability has always been an important aspect of the modern presidency. The ability to pin wrongdoing on someone downstairs has saved us from a few impeachment proceedings, I suspect.

I see your point, but I was referring to government power, not necessarily the literal size of the government (though I do think they inevitably intertwine), and never said anyone wanted bigger government. Again, my original point was the expansion of government power, not necessarily size - though I frankly think it's impossible to fulfill the wishes expressed on this forum without growing government, as well. I accept this one. I'll be sure to not assume their common ground with DC liberals/progressives/Democrats unless it is explicitly stated.

Could you elaborate? Assuming you're not just yanking my chain, I have absolutely no idea what point you're trying to make.

I'll say it again: you can't be serious. Just as an example, Obamacare requires people and employers to buy insurance, or they will be punished by the government. That's an obvious expansion of government power. Or from the Elizabeth Warren thread: "1. We believe that Wall Street needs stronger rules and tougher enforcement, and we're willing to fight for it." Again, this is a proposal that obviously would be an expansion of government power. Nobody that I would classify as liberal on this forum spoke against it. If there's something the folks on this board who overwhelmingly agree with the policies advanced by what is commonly known as "modern American liberalism" would rather be called, I would be happy to accommodate them. I am not a conservative in Washington, nor do I approve of them. I suppose I could be wrong, but I doubt I've said anything nice about them on this forum.

I'd like to think you can tell the difference between building a national (300+ million people!) narrative of white on black oppression with individual stories, which is what I was criticizing, and responding to a challenge for "examples of accused "liberals" like me, carlfense, Junior, tschu, et al, advocating big government in this forum" with (gasp) examples from this forum.

http://www.press-citizen.com/story/news/local/2014/06/18/armor-plated-military-truck-added-johnson-county-fleet/10814955/ I read a tweet from someone that said something like, "we could solve two big problems by taking the police's heavy equipment and giving it to the Kurds"

You....can't be serious. The global warming thread is full of calls for government action to combat climate change. The Obamacare thread.... The wealth inequality thread. The Elizabeth Warren commandments for progressives thread. Those are just the explicit examples from page one. I must've missed something over the weekend. I had/have three basic beliefs about climate change: it's happening and humans are a factor, future consequences are uncertain, and if climate alarmists are right, we're all screwed because there's no way we're going to do what they want in the time frame that they want. Naturally, I'm branded a knuckledragger because I'm not a disciple of the Goracle, but that's not a point to pound into the ground.

I didn't click through all of them, but the ones I did read basically made a point that I haven't disputed: racial bias exists. My response: and? That isn't something you can legislate out of existence. Because that's what liberals want. Well, I believe this is pretty much the first time I've ever seen you advocate less government.

Well, if nothing else, I can at least be glad that some of the liberals on this forum are finally (!) seeing the dangers of unchecked government power.

http://www.naacp.org/pages/criminal-justice-fact-sheet Standing alone, all of those statistics have about as much credibility as claiming the justice system is sexist because men are incarcerated at 10 times the rate of women. A significant reason minorities (and men) are jailed at disproportionately high rates is that they commit a disproportionately high percentage of the crimes in this country. That being said, half of black men and forty percent of white men are arrested by the time they're 23. That's largely a product of the drug war, which is a bad policy that does need to be abandoned. How I feel about it doesn't really matter. You spend a lot of time throwing around loaded words like "oppression" and I'd like to know what you really mean by that. To put it in your perspective, it'd be like me constantly saying "Obama is a socialist" while not doing anything to substantiate my claim aside from posting a few of his more radical soundbites and stating "the facts on this are clear."

I think you need to define what you mean by "state of oppression." Merriam-Webster: This conjures up images of apartheid South Africa and Iraq. The United States is not those places, so you need to be more specific in your language. Edit- I should clarify: clearly acts of oppression happen in the US. That is not the same as a "state of oppression."

Yeah, I doubt he could do it, even if he wanted to make it happen. I don't suppose it's legally binding, but it's long been accepted that as long as you keep giving money to the AD, you can keep your seats (or very close equivalents) for as long as you like. Violating that would cause a rebellion. The only chance would be to identify the section you wanted to give to the students and offer everyone seat upgrades without the higher donation level requirement. That'd be both difficult and pricey for the AD, so it won't happen.

Uh, yes, every time someone posts a story that reinforces their broader narrative, that's exactly what they're doing. The only "clear" thing in this thread is how desperate certain people, you included, are to pass judgment on a situation before facts are known. I'm not exactly sure whether you're deliberately misreading what I said, or literally lack the capability. What did I just say about your desperation to pass judgment on events without all of the information? Do you have any proof that racial bias was a motive here? And that's my point that you're vehemently protesting for some reason: anecdotes are a dumb way to make an argument. Give me a few hours and I could link hundreds of articles of police wrongfully shooting/arresting white people, blacks killing whites, and so on, to advance a narrative that whites are oppressed. I'm not going to, because I don't think that's an accurate narrative. A string of anecdotes can be used to say almost anything.

I believe embarrassed is the emotion we're looking for. Your reasoning for selectively quoting me in order to claim I said pretty much the exact opposite of what I actually said would be.....?

You can find plenty of non-anecdotal data; in fact much of it has been linked in this thread. But nah, we're just here propogating a conspiracy with cherry-picked examples, don't mind us Zero points for reading comprehension to you tonight.

I voted for Northwestern, but they don't belong on the list of "overlooked" teams. I've got an odd feeling about Illinois, though. They'll probably be another flop and Beckman will get his walking papers, but if they're not....I suspect the Nebraska game will be their coming out party.

A rent-a-cop acted in a stupid, overzealous way, stop the presses! I mean...I dunno, I just think it's sort of silly to build a case for a national conspiracy against blacks with a bunch of anecdotes. I'm not saying racial bias isn't real, it is, the only point of contention is pervasiveness, it's just not a good way to argue. I could easily match you story for story with non-black people being treated badly by police. I mean goodness, there's actually an "excessive use of force cop" meme: