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21 minutes ago, teachercd said:

Dude, those early days of UFC were wild!

 

 

Much better than today IMO.   Anyways, enough with the weekly nonsense posting and let’s get back to the topic please.  

5 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

I don't think I've seen the full list of what they got wrong, but they weren't wrong to take emergency measures in the early days, along with most countries.

I agree with this statement.  Unfortunately, the early days ended up being early months/early year.  And not based on science.  We actually know that the Scientists we were supposed to trust literally lied to us about more than just one or two things, of which they say it was in the interest of public safety.  
Another one of those that just came to mind was the Covid shot.   Remember when we were told it protected you AND prevented transmission???  Big props to @RedDenverfor not falling for that one, I know I did.   But guess what?  The CDC knew it didn’t?  How do we know this?  Good question, Deborah Birx finally let the cat out of the bag after studies came out showing the data and she basically had to say it.   Though she says they knew even earlier than that!  

This is VERY important because many people got fired for not taking the Covid shot or not allowed to attend in person school because we were told those people were responsible for transmission to others.  Turns out the vaccinated were just as responsible according to studies.  

58 minutes ago, Danny Bateman said:

Who knows, maybe injecting bleach or rectal administration of UV light will turn out to be great options down the road. 
 

If they do hopefully SOME PEOPLE can admit they were just wrong on the matter!

Did anyone actually suggest rectal administration of UV light to treat Covid? Or are you just making a funny?  We know an actual real life study was done on the trachea, but rectal?  
 

But hey, let’s just pretend everyone got everything right while we tried to mock and silence the dissenters and no need to hold anyone accountable because…..well it’s was years ago and let’s move on or something.  
 

You say you work in Healthcare.    Let me ask…..

1) was it right to treat those who didn’t want to get the Covid-19 shot the way they got treated?  Vaccine mandates for the population set that didn’t need them.  Fired, mocked on social media, not allowed to attend school considering what we knew and know?

2) was it right to keep schools closed Fall of 2020, spring of 2021, Fall if 2021 when Europe gave us school safety data in May 2020? 

3) was it right to have mask mandates when Fauci said the following pre-Covid:  “There’s no reason to be walking around with a mask. When you’re in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it’s not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. And, often, there are unintended consequences — people keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face.”  And plenty of research has been shown that the mandates didn’t work.  
 

4). How about keeping Business’s closed past late April/Early May when researchers had a pretty good idea about transmission and who was affected the most.  Luckily we had some Governors who went against the “Scientific consensus” and allowed their States to operate responsibly.  Remember when the open up the country crowd was mocked here in HB, the traditional news media, the Demmocrat Presidential candidate, social media platforms?   Yep, me too.  
Opening the economy earlier than EU was Probably one of the biggest reasons the US is outperforming other countries in post Covid economic rates.  
 

4 minutes ago, Danny Bateman said:

I would argue we should be pissed any time any freedoms are restricted, within reason

Interesting.   I agree though.  

30 minutes ago, Crusader Husker said:

Sad thing is I think Wendy's might be cheaper. 

 

McDonalds might be about the same price as Canes here, and Canes you get more food.

Saw a study that showed McDonalds has raised prices faster than any other major fast food chain. 

20 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

But.....hey...let's crucify the people trying to figure out the best path forward.

Orrrrrrrrr, we could hold them to account for what they got wrong WHILE they were trying to crucify the people who were eventually proven correct.   this is the whole censorship discussion. 
 

And, don’t fall into NOPES deliberate attempt to think this is just a .90% people mad about masks discussion.  

6 hours ago, Lorewarn said:

Which posters are you referring to?

The ones that can’t admit many folks got things wrong in the beginning and/or the ones that said people were putting lives in danger for having alternative thoughts to the consensus but ended being correct.   
 

Had those posters been in charge of censorship, we would have silenced some correct perspectives while amplifying to incorrect ones.  This is the point Teach are and I are saying.  Just using Covid as an example.  

Just now, teachercd said:

This is basically 100% what was said at the time.  I know that Covid-Bros will be like "Well, they didn't know everything yet" which is fine and I agree but this is pretty what was said over and over at first.

It’s amazing that posters here can’t admit that many people got many things wrong on Covid.  Figuring out what we did wrong and what ended up being right should be a priority going forward since Covid will not be the kart pandemic the world encounters.  
 

Instead, its like pulling teeth to get “The Experts” in this country to talk about it and just admit to not knowing s#!t at the time on what to do (or knowing it came from a lab and stop slow rolling the inevitable conclusion), letting the public know they were kinda making educated guesses, they are sorry for denigrating others that were correct on a few things, and now learn from the past.  

20 minutes ago, ZRod said:

Nope

Good Lord  

…Fauci and others first said masks aren’t helpful, then they said masks were essentially mandatory and it didn’t matter what kind…then actual studies came out and said only correct fitting N95 masks actually made a difference.   
 

…..We were told Covid is transmitted through touch and EVERYTHING should be sterilized and gloves worn……..Theeeeeennnnn it wasn’t.  Hooray for Clorox though.  
 

…..we were told to quarantine inside and public areas had to be closed because of science….well that turn out so correctly.   Remember people getting arrested on the beach   Remember skate parks getting filled with sand   Is that still a “Nope” 

Lets see….then were told kids couldn’t go to school because they were death trap…..even though Europe already let us know that was t the case.  Then when some States got wise and opened schools, those Governors were called too cavalier with people’s lives by those same wizards of smart telling schools to close.   Still a “Nope”???

Hmmmm….we could go to vaccinations mandates and how vaccines were essential FOR EVERYONE, instead of those who account for 90% of Covid deaths.  People under 40 couldn’t go to work unless they got vaccinated, kids couldn’t go to college unless they were vaccinated, because why?????  Well, we were told vaccinated individuals COULD NOT transmit disease.   How did that science hold up? 
 

When Covid started, you were considered a right wing conspiracy theorist if you said Covid-19 was lab created.   How has that held up?  
 

Im sure there is more that will come to mind, but to say “Nope” is being, well…..Wrong will put it nicely.   
 

52 minutes ago, teachercd said:

I get your point, I guess the issue is, what/who decides what is "good" information or not?

 

If you are just talking about verified stuff, it seems like that would be easy enough.

 

And then what about stuff that is not verified yet.  But say that an account with a lot of followers tweets out "I would not be shocked if the Russians were behind this", does that get banned?

 

I mean, I suppose we do have false advertising laws in place so it seems like SOMETHING could be done.

Another great example of this is much of the Covid information in the first 6 months to a year that far far far too many people insisted was conspiracy or whacked out nut job posting…….actually turned out to be correct and the people we were pushed to accept as gospel were the ones that were wrong.  

7 minutes ago, Lorewarn said:

 

 

Is it lying once, lying always, or somewhere in between?

Let us know when you figure it out, my man 

8 hours ago, Lorewarn said:

 

 

What constitutes someone being a liar?

My Man, I’m sure you already know the answer. 

1 hour ago, DevoHusker said:

I don't agree with the idea of P2025. The Heritage Foundation has been around since long before Trump. The post provided visual evidence the announcement was wrong.

 

Did you have anything proving the post wrong, or do you just not like the source.

You are arguing with the guy who continually posted false stories during the Trump Russia investigation of 2017/2018 and heavily relied on Adam Schiff who as we know, was found to be a liar.  I think you are fine!

28 minutes ago, teachercd said:

Not a lot of us have been part of a protest or rally…

 

me and @TGHusker are about it.

I protested what my wife cooked for dinner last year….NEVER AGAIN will I do that.   She basically turned me into an INCEL for awhile.   Taught me real quick my protests had no power and she carry’s it all!  

2 hours ago, DevoHusker said:

 

 

Gotta respect the Yutes.

4 hours ago, Twinkletoes Flintstone said:

I have also thought about the sales tax aspect of this.  But maybe it's tied to Lincoln hotels and a bit heftier than 1/8 cent.  

 

Not to thread jack, but what do the Royals do now?  I'm surprised the ballot measure failed.  IS a KC KS burb willing to do it?

Royals will still end up in or near downtown I believe. Chiefs may end up in Kansas near the racetrack.  

2 hours ago, Dr. Strangelove said:

I'm always tickled when ardent right wing supporters unknowingly embrace left wing ideas. 

I’m always tickled when people think getting ALL employees access to RSU’s is a left wing or right wing idea 

51 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

 

 

Charlie Kirk is an a$$ and a grifter and it’s getting worse with him.  
 

many years ago he had one or two good points on some Covid stuff, but since, he grifts and grifts. 

7 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

Good questions.

 

First off, the tax situation in Nebraska right now is such a hot topic right now that I think if this were to be proposed, it would make people's heads explode.  

Yes, the football team is important to the state.  However, economically, the VAST majority of it is in Lincoln.  I, personally, would have some issues with me sitting in small town central Nebraska being charged the same sales tax for the stadium as people sitting in Lincoln where the vast majority of the economic benefit is.  Maybe Lincoln needs to have an additional 1% sales tax.  I go shopping in Lincoln, so I would still be paying some of it.

 

On the project as a whole, I'm just not for a new build.  First off, it would need to be somewhere out away from down town.  There just isn't anywhere else to build it in that area unless you would tear down an entire neighborhood somewhere and I can't imagine where that would be.  A football stadium like this takes up a huge amount of room.  And, being right down town is part of the overall atmosphere and experience going to the game.  On the economic side, I would hate to be the owner of one of the bars or restaurants downtown and then being told they are moving the stadium somewhere else.  Those 6-7 Saturdays in the fall are what make or break some of those businesses.

 

Second, I just still like Memorial stadium with all it's quirks.  I'm not someone who needs to be sitting in a brand new shiny stadium to have a great time.  I also think the history in the stadium means something.  It's like Wrigley field.  It's old.  It's not as nice and shiny as some brand new ball park.  But, it has character and history and it's in a neighborhood that is a lot of fun to be in during the games.  No way in hell would they think about tearing it down and moving it.  They just went through a huge renovation of the park and I'm sure it might have cost more than a new build.  But, now, we still have the same park but upgraded.  Win win in my book.

 

I also want to add.  I get so friggen sick and tired of sports teams always thinking they need a new stadium and it falls on tax payers to fund it.  Then, 20 years later, Oppp....we need a new stadium and the mortgage to build the previous one isn't even paid off.

 

 

And....let's not forget, they just built a brand knew state of the art football facility right next to Memorial.  They are NOT going to now tear down Memorial and build it somewhere else.

 

OK, I'll end my rant now.

Thanks for the feedback.  
 

If renovation is the best way forward, it still seems that a small sales tax alone or in conjunction with private donors is the best funding mechanism vs only private donations.

I think others have stated that private donors don’t have unlimited amounts of money and will be making choices between NIL or facility renovations.  
 

One other thing to mention, now that athletes are getting paid in college, is that in the professional leagues, many facilities aren’t up to top notch college facilities because the professional athletes are getting paid and money goes to them vs facilities.  College athletes may have to accept that the facility arms race may slow down (Hopefully!!) now that funds are going to them vs potential facility upgrades.  

I think it will be interesting to see how much improvement the WR group makes because they have what looks to be competent QB’s getting them the ball on time or when open.  A great WR group can make a QB look good, but it also works on reverse to where a great QB can make WR’s look better.  

Here’s to hoping both groups are top shelf and they feed off each other towards greatness!

1 hour ago, BigRedBuster said:

I think the vast majority of fans understand something needs done with South Stadium.  But, the big question is, can something really nice be done cheaper than what was proposed?

I don’t live up that way and I know you have the pulse of things in a variety of areas of NE so have a question/s on funding.  
 

In KC, a huge mistake was made in the early 2000’s when both organizations (Chiefs and Royals) tied themselves to a renovation project instead of new build.  Fast forward 20 years and now the Royals want, and really need a downtown stadium, and the Chiefs want hundreds of millions to fix/renovate Arrowhead which is just gonna kick the can down the road a little farther when a new build would be money better spent.  Both should have been playing in new stadiums by now.   These are for profit organizations asking for public money for stadiums they will not own.  Jackson County threw good money at bad projects that only lasted 20 years.  
 

Not sure who actually owns Memorial Stadium, (University, city, county, state) but it’s a different case study vs professional sports.   Private donations for the stadium usually are how these things get built for colleges, but since the football team is so important to the state in terms of tax revenue, name recognition, etc…what would be wrong with a small statewide sales tax increase, or statewide car rental tax, to pay for a new build?  The money wouldn’t be going to billionaire owners which is the common objection in pro sports for these things.   The benefactor is the State University.  Would a 1/8th cent sales tax increase over 25 years or something like that be palatable to state in order to pay for a new Memorial Stadium? 

6 minutes ago, teachercd said:

We also have a HUGE job jumping work force...They basically figured out the best way to get more money was to move from job to job, which is true.  But it can/does leave openings. 

Don’t forget about the Gig workforce.  So many people now make their living driving Uber, DoorDash, Lyft, or on YouTube, Instagram, etc….that normally would have been with a traditional employer.