madrat

You realize Martinez began 0-4. Did you expect instant results? These guys got their first significant P-T and were very competitive. Indiana was certainly winnable and they put us in position to win. Minnesota whooped our whole team and Martinez wasn't going to add anything there.

You said I was lying. So far you've been long on personal attacks and short on Google-fu. Makes me think you hang at HuskerMax. But since you keep going on a tangent, I'll help you out. Post #25 https://forum.huskermax.com/threads/jurgens-improving.114016/page-2#post-4134586 Sorry, dude, but you're grasping at straws saying Jurgens was our best OL. It was not true. Maybe you dislike facts coming from others, but I have no reason to get personal with you. Being a slow day and all is no excuse to get testy with me.

Now you're doing exactly what you projected on me, trolling.

He was getting the snaps completed in the high 90% range, which was big. He definitely gets out of the blocks fast. He did whiff on a high percentage of blocks, which doesn't help. But he certainly made more at the end of the season than at the beginning. I'd like to see him win 70% of his match-ups, but he's probably going to be a senior before he gets that high. The average B1G center was getting more than half of their blocks simply because they tend to be upperclassmen with experience. Nebraska opted to go with a freshman center in a league that punishes you for any weakness. While not the only weakness on our team, in crunch time we faltered way too often in the first half of the season. Even an unexciting upperclassmen making average B1G center play would have lessened the pressure on Martinez. But for awhile there every snap was exciting.

Ouch. I'm supposed to be hurt because the honesty isn't fitting your narrative.

Name the starting centers in the B1G that he was better than. Short list.

Your second part (the edit) is very acceptable as long as they honor the recruitment promises. There is nothing wrong with persuasion in this case.

Did I? I simply choose not to entertain your argument. This isn't exactly secret that coaches say one thing and sometimes are doing another. I'd like to see less hype from our coaches about what they will do and more of them allowing what is already here to get it done. It's a WIP in the sense they really have a lot of room to improve. Getting just six wins next year would not be good for the program.

Subjective opinion is great. Glad you liked our results for the season. This team could easily gone with less risky decisions and got to a bowl. 5-7 is not speculation. Our dramatic coaching decisions made that happen. Vedral and McCaffrey proved on the field that we had options other than Martinez. When an injury sidelined Robinson the backups ducked it up. Nebraska was never short on talent available to play. Nebraska was short on talent being utilized.

Who said the scoring was posted publicly? I just said it was confirmed when I said the same. Jurgens public praise did not match the coaches scores. You can pm people there if you see them discuss it. The results aren't exactly archived for the public consumption. I doubt coaches are going to bad mouth their own choices. This staff struggled to publicly give Mills praise all season. They lavish praise on some more than others.

Shouldn't be too hard for you all to locate the discussion over there to confirm what I just said. You don't have to believe me so I understand.

I agree for the most part. But promises are promises. If the last staff promised them a chance to get that 5th year, which is generally understood by some players, then stick to the promise.

I'm not posting the link. They will just move it if it goes public. There are probably some posters here with access. I was shown it when I was over at Huskers Max. Unfortunately that site is a bit of a dive with the moderator chums with some bad actors.

If the coaches decide that then they are paid to make those decisions. But it would be chump if they hide behind the motive you're speaking about. These kids come in expecting to exhaust eligibility. We had this debate unfold in the World Herald (might have been Lincoln Star to be honest, its been a long time and I used to read both) in the 90s and Osborne was opposite your opinion. I doubt he really changed it over the years.

Best? The coaches did not ever put him as the best scorer at blocking and that is the most important metric when labeling best. He was second to last at least once and dead bottom for most games compared to just the NU starters. You really need to step away from the kool-aid. The coaches created the metrics, so bug them if you don't like the numbers.

https://journalstar.com/sports/huskers/recruiting/nebraska-football-scholarship-chart/table_7bf5d0b2-2200-5610-8ce8-585129d0c735.html We better figure out how to grow young DL sooner or later. If we don't ride 5th year seniors at the DL we could be in real trouble in 2021.

LOL. I just reread my post. I overuse 'now' a tad there.

Chicken and egg reasoning there. He came in as a tight end and by October was out by injury. Five years in a row he got injured, dating back to high school. So he heals up a bit and got moved to center. The guy played in the spring like he did in the fall, scattering snaps Was hurt again over the summer. People on this board all questioned his durability a year ago and forgot to question his ability to do the position. Showed up in the fall and was labeled a game changer. He certainly was in the opposite way. He was not ready for the role and guys that were did not play. I'd rather of not had all the drama with snaps and the line calls.

Not sure the QB rooms have been all that bad. How bad were we under Cody Green? He fit our system, but he wasn't a bright guy to pack up and go to the system at Tulsa. Tulsa was 8-5 and 11-3 with him there. Obviously someone beat him out for a reason. But he was actually pretty good at minimizing turnovers when he did play. He's coaching now at UNLV now, so he couldn't have been too terrible.

Compared to whom? As a center he's at the bottom of the B1G. I want the Huskers to win, not look pretty. The guy gets tossed like a rag doll. As he puts on weight he's slowed down. There is a huge mass muscle difference from him to other centers. Step back from the kool-aid and look at it from a distance. It hurt to stick to him. He's been the worst blocker in near every game last season. Yet we expect him to lead a bunch of upperclassmen? Nonsense.

I have pretty low confidence in Austin. He's not a Nebraska guy from the best era and is stuck in Bill Callahan mode. Great talker. (Not so good speaker, just promises a lot delivers not so much.) Knows NFL coaching of an OL perhaps. But really is not as aggressive with the college game. If you value the passing game at Nebraska, he's great. But he's not getting our players to block well in the run game which has been 60% of our offense under Frost.

The Cam Jurgens experiment cost us games all season, because he isn't good as a center. It's killing us. He's a tight end.

I'd like to know who is 'king of the boards' drill with this group. I doubt it is either Matt Farniok or Brendan Jaimes. My favorites for starters would be: RT 76 Jaimes, Brenden SR RG 71 Farniok, Matt RS SR C 58 Wegener, Josh SR/TR LG 70 Sichterman, Matt RS JR LT 54 Benhart, Bryce SO Backups G/T 75 Hixson, Trent RS JR 56 Wilson, Boe RS SR 73 Bando, Broc RS JR XX Corcoran, Turner FR 57 Piper, Ethan RS FR 78 Fritzsche, Jimmy RS FR 77 Lynn, Michael RS FR 56 Shefke, Collin RS SO 61 Balenger, Mitchell RS SO C 52 Forbes, AJ RS SO Is Gaylord even coming back? He graduated and if he would like to stay on I'm sure coaches would enjoy that. But he could just as easily do the transfer portal for some graduate hours somewhere else.

The worst part is the time you are a scrub is that you can literally take the starter to the woodshed because you know their weaknesses. But how does that help the team. I doubt Dashon Neal is less of a person for being bored with giving the same look day after day. One day he probably was hoping to get to be on the other side of the drill. A good coach won't let practice ever get stale like that. It's kind of like making guys that know how to tackle without a problem go through the same tackling drills as the guys that flub tackles. It becomes punishment after awhile.

If we take the last of 2019 depth charts and simply add the new guys. Someone else can finish this. It's giving me a head ache flipping between websites to locate details. OFFENSE Pos No. Player WR 13 Chase, Darien RS SO XX Manning, Omar JR XX Betts, Zavier FR XX Fleming, Marcus FR XX Brown, Alante FR WR 1 Robinson, Wan'Dale SO 81 Warner, Kade RS JR 87 Hickman, Chris SO / 5 XX Houston, Demariyon RS FR 61 Balenger, Mitchell RS SO WR 10 Spielman, JD RS SR 4 McQuitty, Jaevon RS JR 8 Woodyard, Jaron RS SR/TR 39 Thurman, Andrew RS FR LT 76 Jaimes, Brenden SR 73 Bando, Broc RS JR 72 Anderson, Matthew RS FR XX Corcoran, Turner FR / XX Piper, Ethan RS FR LG 75 Hixson, Trent RS JR 50 Raridon, John RS SR 78 Fritzsche, Jimmy RS FR 77 Lynn, Michael RS FR OC 51 Jurgens, Cameron RS SO 68 Farniok, Will RS SO 58 JOSH WEGENER SR/TR 52 Forbes, AJ RS SO RG 56 Wilson, Boe RS SR 70 Sichterman, Matt RS JR XX Corcoran, Turner FR / XX Piper, Ethan RS FR RT 71 Farniok, Matt RS SR 54 Benhart, Bryce SO XX Corcoran, Turner FR / XX Piper, Ethan RS FR TE 86 Stoll, Jack RS SR 11 Allen, Austin RS JR 82 Rafdal, Kurt RS JR XX Vokolek JR/TR QB 2 Martinez, Adrian JR 16 Vedral, Noah JR/TR 7 McCaffrey, Luke SO XX Smothers FR RB 26 Mills, Dedrick SR/TR 37 Johnson, Rahmir SO 38 Belt, Brody RS SO XX Morrison / Bradley JR DEFENSE Pos No. Player DE 97 Thomas, Deontre JR XX / 99 Banks, Brant RS FR NT 93 Daniels, Damion RS JR XX / 99 Robinson, Ty RS FR DE 95 Stille, Ben RS SR XX / 92 Wildeman, Tate ILB 31 Miller, Collin RS SR 3 Honas, Will SR/TR XX / 83 Shurtleff, Sam RS FR ILB 53 Johnson, Joseph RS SO 28 Reimer, Luke SO 89 Graham, Jamin RS FR OLB 2 Tannor, Caleb JR 44 Nelson, Garrett SO OLB 13 Domann, JoJo RS SR / 45 Alston, David NB 13 Domann, JoJo RS SR SS 19 Dismuke, Marquel RS SR 49 Stalbird, Isaiah RS SO 30 Sullivan, Eli RS SR FS 5 Taylor-Britt, Cam JR 8 Williams, Deontai SR TR CB 23 Bootle, Dicaprio RS SR 17 Clark, Braxton RS SO CB 12 Newsome, Quinton SO 25 Butler, Tony RS SR 33 Wright, Javin RS FR SPECIAL TEAMS Pos No. Player PT 99 Przystup, Will RS/FR/TR PK 32 Pickering, Barret JR 35 Waldoch, Matt JR LS 38 Jackson, Damian RS JR 94 Mueller, Cade RS SO H 16 Vedral, Noah JR/TR PR 10 Spielman, JD RS SR 5 Taylor-Britt, Cam JR 1 Robinson, Wan'Dale SO KR 1 Robinson, Wan'Dale SO 14 Johnson, Rahmir SO 38 Belt, Brody RS SO KO 35 Waldoch, Matt JR