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I wonder how many lawyers were out and about in 1918? I am going to make some predictions: 1. First P5 conference to have a student-athlete to have to be hospitalized due to C19: SEC 2. First P5 conference to have a death of a student-athlete due to C19 related complications: SEC 3. First P5 conference to have a lawsuit from a student-athlete due to C19. PAC-12 4. First P5 conference to call the whole thing off after Aug 1: PAC-12 5. First P5 conference to call the whole thing off after Sept 1: BIG 10 6. First P5 conference to call the whole thing off because one state will not allow competition: PAC-12 7. First P5 conference to call the whole thing off because student-athletes will protest: PAC-12 8. First university in a P5 conference to cancel football without the conference approval/unison conference decision but based on governor shutting down the state: California or Stanford in the PAC-12 or Rutgers in the Big 10 or Michigan/Michigan St in the Big 10.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29493839/sources-ex-nebraska-wr-jd-spielman-heads-tcu JD headed to TCU.

If Frost cannot do it, I doubt that there is a coach out there that can. I ride with Frost for the long haul as well. I figure it this way: a very strong majority wanted him here and because of that we cannot throw him out if we are displeased. Moos was only on the job a short time and then we get Frost. I will bet you anything they have peeled back the onion and found more crap than what they initially thought. It was like what Frost said during the season after a game: I'm still finding things that are wrong. I blame this whole downfall on Harvey Perlman.

This just in. More doom and gloom; of course, this pertains to the Big 12; but is near the geographic's of the Big 10. https://sports.yahoo.com/west-virginia-announces-28-members-of-football-program-have-tested-positive-for-covid-19-234649357.html The West Virginia athletic department announced Saturday that 28 members of its football program have tested positive for COVID-19. In total, 41 members of the department have reportedly tested positive out of 518 coronavirus tests since June. Five members of the men’s basketball program have also reportedly tested positive. Here are the guidelines if anyone is interested. http://www.ncaa.org/sport-science-institute/resocialization-collegiate-sport-developing-standards-practice-and-competition Pay particular attention to the bottom of the page: Campuswide or local community test rates that are considered unsafe by local public health officials. If there is an outbreak and/or rise in cases in Lincoln or any of the college towns, or if students are back on campus AND student health services gets a few cases, it is all over. But this one was unique: Universal Masking As part of agreed-upon competition protocols, schools and conferences should contemplate universal masking for all coaches and other personnel who are present at the event. This can help prevent the unwitting spread of infection to others with whom they may have close contact, especially when talking at a close physical distance as is so common on the sidelines or bench area. Similarly, because wearing a mask/cloth face covering/face shield will not adequately protect a coach from infection by an infectious athlete, schools and conferences should contemplate a policy of universal masking for all student-athletes when they are not playing and when they move from the court/field to the sidelines for timeouts or between-period strategy discussions I think the NCAA has just told everyone that no one is playing this season without really saying it.

More doom and gloom. No one here has talked about the NCAA guidelines; the death knell is in the guidelines for a season. https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/7/18/21328307/college-football-ncaa-football-season-jeopardy-covid-19-coronavirus-testing-donld-trump From the article: College medical guidelines for athletic teams, obtained by Sports Illustrated, is in the following edict. This paragraph has a chilling impact if you are hopeful for a college football season: “When an athlete tests positive for COVID-19, local public health officials must be notified, and contact tracing protocols must be put in place. All individuals with a high risk of exposure should be placed in quarantine for 14 days as per CDC guidance. This includes members of opposing teams after competition. The difficulty is defining individuals with a high risk of exposure, and in some cases, this could mean an entire team (or teams).”

Can you explain California and their Shutdown 2.0?

There was supposed to be a protest march in my city and it got cancelled....due to rain. God has a sense of humor. But I will stress this: if you simply put college athletes in a dorm and try to keep them sequestered in order to keep them safe and they get tested so they can play, do the other students on campus get the same benefit? I would think it would be best to bring back students for on-campus housing, keep them sequestered, get them tested so they could take online classes and still perform in the band, concert choir, chemistry club, do their piano or music recital, or have those students work in the labs on a professor's grant. If these students are not allowed to get this same benefit, then the whole illusion of amateurism is "out the door" and collapses. This is what the college prez's have to worry about. For example, this is telling right here: https://madison.com/wsj/sports/college/wisconsin-badgers-seniors-wont-return-to-spring-sports-in-2021-athletic-department-says/article_32a85306-19dc-5969-9a61-d6608992eea4.html One of the arguments against having senior athletes return for another season, Alvarez said, was other students won’t get a chance to finish a semester of studying abroad or be able to take part in a final musical performance that was canceled. “Anybody that went through that, it just ended,” he said. “And so, I think our faculty reps thought that it shouldn’t be one group be cherry-picked to get credit and be able to come back to pick up that year of eligibility.” Uh folks, we forgot to include the variable of the "faculty athletic representative." Of course, you can argue that was spring sports and not football and that was "then" and this is "now", but the same dynamic still exists. And we are also missing this dynamic as well. The African-American experience in this group's strong claim that blacks are disproportionately affected than other ethnic groups in this virus. It is no wonder that those conferences that are predominately black such as the HBCU conferences cancelled out. Right now, the SIAC, CIAA (D2 conferences) cancelled their seasons, Hampton cancelled their season (Big South) and the MEAC just did the other day. The SWAC is more than likely soon to follow. The point is this: in this pandemic, this dynamic cannot be forgotten. Not only the pandemic but the social dynamic of the race issue cannot be too far away from this conversation. As well, (and here are the what-ifs), a second-string OL gets the virus but it gets transmitted somehow to grandma and she dies. Oh man oh man. We are worried about the football player getting it and needing to be a ventilator; that would be enough to call the whole thing off in a heartbeat. But you will argue "but, but, we kept these players in a hotel and they did their online classes and were not allowed to venture out thus saving them for Saturday." Then the athlete ceases to be a student but an unpaid employee of the university. And this is something that the college prez's do NOT want to even remotely consider and have to defend because they cannot logically defend it. I venture this question: if your son was playing college ball, you would tolerate not being able to see him? Like you would accept just talking to him on the phone or through a Zoom? You would want to go see him like it is some prison with practice and games being like some work-release? All for the greater good of college football? And the only way you would get to see your kid play is on TV? All for the greater good of hopefully someday although statistically improbable of someday cashing in a pro-career so you could retire? Here is an image of a starting linebacker, at the dorm, talking to his girlfriend after practice telling her to make sure she feeds the cat at his off-campus apartment the two were sharing. Here is the starting DB on a college football team. In order to prevent the spread of the virus but to make sure that he is ready to play on Saturday for a very important game student-athletes are sequestered in their dorm rooms and taking their classes online. Here we see the student-athlete contacting the football office nutrition service making an order with their university debit card to get some extra food for a long hard night of studying. You must admire the student-athletes and their dedication to their studies as well as football.

I see your point. However, would this have also been true for college football? Didn't we have student-athletes coming back on campus at one point for involuntary workouts? And what was the exact date in which we could have been "free and clear"? My argument is with the media and the politicians. They said that those citizens who were fed up and doing things were a problem and should have listened YET we saw massive demonstrations/protests/riots and the news media said "nothing to worry about, there will be no spread of the virus." Thus, the average citizen cannot be blamed for this but has to ALL be lumped in to those who wanted to go to work and those who wanted to break windows and topple statues. I just hope that when they starting assigning the blame that the average citizen who did the right thing will not be blamed. Look, I have been cooped up in my house working from home and doing all the right things working from home and only got ONE haircut when it was deemed "ok" by my state. I will stop right there because it will get political.

I don't know but it seems like with the Big 10 announcing conference only without the others is an indication, to me at least, that there is not a unified front on this matter. What we saw with the FCS CAA league, they suspended their competition but allowing each school to go independent. This does not make any sense to me but it is happening now. https://sports.yahoo.com/reports-caa-call-off-2020-232330071.html I do not know if each of these schools are intending to merely test the waters on a go it alone plan but it does appear to me that in a sinking ship it is every man for themselves. I wonder how many schools are watching this move from a small FCS conference? I do contend that college presidents are at a tipping point but this tipping point is on their own paradigm that they have been selling us: this paradigm is "if it is unsafe for students to be on campus, then it is unsafe for football and other athletics"; if they do not have students on campus but has the football team to play, then the whole paradigm collapses in front of their own eyes and they will not be able to argue the paradigm that they have built up and sold us. We have always known this but it is becoming even more obvious and they cannot hide around the issue anymore is that this is a money grab and the concept of "student-athlete safety is paramount" is a false premise.

Here is an interesting graphic; this will help us to keep track of everything. I am waiting til there is ONE BIG X through the whole thing. I predict Aug 1 is when the whole thing collapses.

What you provided was factual information that I long suspected. There is no way that you can be a Debbie Downer when you are giving us info. While some may say this is a political topic or even conspiracy theory, I disagree with that view. The problem is this: university presidents will not get this information regardless because the feds won't release the intelligence on it based on the fear of creating an international crisis. General Eisenhower, prior to the D-Day landings in 1944 stated: an aroused democracy is a formidable foe. Today, that saying is: an aroused American populace without college football is a formidable foe.

This response is in no way a criticism of your comment but simply an observation made from it. 1. we complain that people are not/were not following guidelines from the CDC; 2. yet we are hoping that we put young men ages 18-23 in close contact and in groups of more than 30 and closer than six feet, essentially away from the CDC guidelines, so we can have the game of football; 3. and because we cannot get our football, people are being blamed for us losing a season of football; 4. we have seen entire industries with employees losing their jobs and/or not being able to work, but now we worry about the economic impact of losing football? I ask this question: is football an "essential" aspect? We had people not have their jobs due to this classified as "non-essential" and "essential" but somehow football is essential? We worry about the overall impact of not having football on local business when many local businesses were considered "non-essential". We all knew there would be spikes, upticks, and were told there would be a "second wave." But now we are in the phase of "finger pointing" and the "blame game." That must be phase 5 of the re-opening.

NCAA@NCAA Although testing and contact tracing infrastructure have expanded considerably, the variations in approach to reopening America for business and recreation have correlated with a considerable spike in cases in recent weeks. Guess what folks, the NCAA will blame the American people for why there is no college football. You see, had you listened to our PSA's on "wearing a mask" we would not be in this mess. Heck, we have had Nick Saban do a PSA and what did you do? You ignored it. See? See? You are to blame for this mess. Had you just stayed in doors and do what you were told and not worry about who is and who is not essential, you would have college football to enjoy while you were in lockdown. So, do not blame us for no college football. The NCAA is getting ready to use that as their argument and then blaming each state for their varied opening processes and phases. No college football? Your fault, not ours. Even though we know for a fact that this is how the NCAA handled the whole mess....

Hey, did anyone notice that there is an NCAA president? I did not know that there was such a person. https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/29475847/ncaa-issues-extended-guidelines-help-navigate-return-fall-sports-coronavirus-pandemic "This document lays out the advice of health care professionals as to how to resume college sports if we can achieve an environment where COVID-19 rates are manageable. Today, sadly, the data point in the wrong direction. If there is to be college sports in the fall, we need to get a much better handle on the pandemic." Well duh...

This is what is really happening. It only takes one small domino to topple the big one.

This is great news!!! We are in the Top 25!!! Spend a few more dollars and take in some more cash and we will be a Top 10 team and will contend for the national title in spending and revenue!!! Look out Ohio State and Alabama, we are coming to get you. We may never beat you on the field but we can out spend you and out revenue you.

Dunning-Kruger Effect is a cognitive bias whereby people who are incompetent at something are unable to recognize their own incompetence or is a cognitive bias in which people with low ability at a task overestimate their ability. This explains my habit of getting married, get divorced, and doing it again...and potentially again....

But my wife told me I am worthless. Wait til she finds out about this. This will make me look pretty good. No wait, I had better not even mention this as greedy as she is.

I am thinking of Fantastic Voyage. We could put Affleck, who is a virologist who knows everything about this virus, but has a daring plan, as he knows a guy who secretly works for the govt who has such a method of making you so small that you can get in a human body. This guy is an expert in nano-humanism, and he gives the secret to Affleck. Then they get in a machine, minaturize it, inject it into a person who has C19, watch him and a few all-star cast like they did in the past movies, give us thrills and ongoing suspense with CGI, drill into the nucleus of the virus, then come back with the "secrets of the virus" that will give us the immediate vaccine that will protect us all and save college football. But there is the subplot of the govt official trying to protect the govt's secrets of doing such and they do not want that secret out until the antagonists daughter gets the virus and needs the vaccine to live. Only then is he willing to give up the govt's secret and gives the technology to do such.

An interesting opinion: https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/paul-zeise/2020/07/14/The-powers-of-college-football-are-wasting-time-on-tying-to-buy-time/stories/202007140106 From the article: Enough. Those who run college football want so badly for us to believe there is some magical way they can change reality and play. It is like they think it is possible to be almost pregnant. Either you are or you aren’t, and the same concept applies to college football.It is either safe — with some risk — to play college football or it isn’t. And if it is, then let’s stop with all these nonsensical plans and play football. If it isn’t, stop wasting our time and just scrap it all together. This isn’t hard.That’s why it keeps coming back to this question of whether it can be done safely or not. Pushing dates back does nothing but keep the illusion alive that there is some magical cure right around the corner.

We will be posting about "what should have been done". Right now, we are at "what should be done" and "what could be done." But I think most of us will be reminiscing of what it would have been like with that song by Little River Band playing in the background. Or, it could be "how I am getting through the worst time of my life" and offering pop psychology tips and strategies to overcoming depression and loss of a loved one. But the way I am looking at this is no different than those doomsday movies. We know the 10 mile asteroid is going to hit us and wipe us out and it is barreling its way toward us and we have a countdown clock to impact ticking away to the inevitable extinction level event but we are holding out all hope that by some act of God or some last minute Captain Kirk solution will come in and save the day. But it will end up as....

If there is no football season this fall (and it is looking more like it every day), will this whole thing be officially called an apocalypse? You know, real Biblical stuff like we read about and movies were made of like The Day After Tomorrow, Mad Max, or whatever your favorite is. Which leads me to this: which "end of the world" movie best fits with the cancelling of college football?

Here is an interesting but sobering opinion. https://arizonasports.com/story/2323690/college-football-season-in-serious-jeopardy-with-no-clear-solution/?show=comments I was listening to the Hail Varsity podcast today with Chris Schmidt. I do not know what everyone's thoughts are on him but he made mention today that he seems to believe that if all the conference schools cannot play, that Nebraska could "go it alone" and set up their own schedule. But from the article. Still, this is not the time for secessions, with hell-bent conferences staging regional competitions in a naked push for money. The sport must go down together, with unity and grace. This is not time to play with the health of over 10,000 student-athletes. You can argue that young people are more resilient. How a great percentage of young carriers barely feel the virus. But these are unpaid amateurs. These are still kids. You can’t assume anything, or violate their future, when the numbers are still surging and the virus still evolving. And you better not be the first university that ends up with a football player in the hospital, intubated, struggling to breathe. Unlike the NFL, college football can’t cut a mercenary deal with its players. You can’t ask them to perform for their school while living in quarantine, separated from the rest of the student body. You can’t ask them to mash their helmets together in a petri dish when everyone else is studying online.

This is reality right here with this n=1 case. https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/29461075/florida-ad-scott-stricklin-tested-positive-virus-recovered "I thought I was being careful but obviously this is a highly transmittable disease," Stricklin said, adding he was initially mad that he put himself in that situation. "It speaks to the importance of all us doing our part with masking and physical distancing. It's really important. Hopefully, we can help keep others safe during this process by doing our part." As of this weekend, 238 tests had been done on athletes across all sports, with 29 positive test results. When athletes initially returned to campus, Florida did 188 tests with three positive results. The 26 positives came from 50 additional tests conducted after athletes showed symptoms or there was suspicion to test. And here be another clue as to what may transpire. https://247sports.com/college/florida/Article/SEC-delays-Volleyball-Soccer-and-Cross-Country-seasons-Florida-Gators-149155227/ The Southeastern Conference has pushed back the allowed start to the seasons for three different fall sports. Volleyball, Soccer, and Cross Country will have to wait until after August 31 in order to compete according to the new mandate I order to prepare for the safe return of competition on an adjusted timeline. They are holding on to the bitter last moment.

The more I think about this issue (and that's all I seem to do lately by the mere nature of what I do for a living), we need to think about asking different questions. So here are two I would like this august group of individuals to think about and respond to: 1. why SHOULD there be a college football season for fall 2020 given what we know thus far? 2. why should there NOT be a college football season for fall 2020 given what we know thus far?