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Well I think Adi tries to get it out of the end zone every time, for the most part. I mean would a player really be coached to kick the ball short to try and force worse field position than the 20 yard line? Our kick coverage has been OK this year but it's been a little porous at other times as well. It seems like the safer bet to just let it go out of the end zone. Bo does try to set up coverages on his kickoffs. Of course I have no idea how often or when, but it happens that he instructs Adi not to kick it out of the end zone from time to time.

With Martin out does anyone think Kunalic kicking EVERY SINGLE KICKOFF out the back of the end zone was an accident?

What's your point? The initial point of contact with Martin was shoulder-to-chest, then helmets hit. Some analyst had a really good take on Martin's hit, stating that if helmets had collided first the player's head would have snapped back, but when you watch the replay his whole body goes backwards at the same rate. The hit on Snead is far more egregious than the hit Martin made.

The major difference between this year and 1992 is that Iowa State didn't beat us in 1991. If they had, we'd have paid more attention to them in 92. There is zero chance that we are overlooking this team. In fact, I would venture a guess that we're going to give them one of our best efforts all year. I would be very surprised if that didn't happen. Sure, we may come out flat a bit after the big Missouri win, but by the end of the third quarter this game will not be in doubt. This is the most confident I've been in any conference game so far this year.

Agreed, but you're wrong in one respect: We have five games before we're done here: ISU, A&M, KU, CU and the CCG. THEN we can leave.

While so many other posts in this thread deserve this as well, yours takes the cake: Drew, don't take this personally. Nobody is cracking on you for this. I told you in my response (first post after yours) that I applaud your effort. You did a good thing, it's just that the numbers you used weren't showing the picture you intended. There's nothing wrong with that; stats are an esoteric thing, and unless you're a mathematician the kinds of stats you're going to have to use to show any kind of trend are going to be beyond the scope of most users. As fond as I am of stats, this is way beyond my ability. Zoo is right - the deviations and +/- numbers all have to be taken into account in something like you're attempting here. I get the impression that you think people are pissing on your work here, and that's not the case - certainly it's not the case in my comments. It's just that what you're trying to do can't be done with the numbers you used. Cool?

Exactly. I've been saying this for years. People like Ed Cunningham who are more interested in "saving the game" never stop to explain how hits should be made. Likely they don't because if they did, they'd grasp what you're saying, and the debate would necessarily die away. Those on their soapbox rarely stop to think about the mechanics of the hit. Beebe, of course, handled this atrociously. Rather than waiting a season and a half before taking action on violent hits without prior comment or instruction, he suspends a player for a hit we've found identical (or worse) video on, in what seems to be a wholly reactionary step. What Beebe should have done was provide an instructional video showing "clean" and "dirty" hits, without ambiguousness, prior to the start of the season. Failing to take proactive steps leaves us with this situation, where each individual team is forced to interpret their games as they see fit. Five games, folks. Five games and we're out of this two-bit conference.

Haha, owned. Ummm.... what? "Owned?" What zoogies posted (great post BTW, zoogs) doesn't obviate what bshirt said. bshirt said we went three-and-out that series. We did. bshirt said that continued "almost the whole 2nd qtr." Our drives in the second quarter were: 3 and out - 2 pass plays 3 and out - 2 pass plays 4 and out - 1 pass play 5 and out - 1 pass play 3 plays - halftime 38 total yards, zero points, one first down. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Very well put. +1 for you, sir.

I wouldn't hold your breath for that. I expect nothing more than some coach speak and "we're looking ahead now, we don't worry about what happened back then" Maybe some stuff will get out, but I wouldn't expect much directly from TO or Pelini. I agree with this. TO and Bo won't say a word. Neither will any of the assistants, the players, or anyone from any other team. Everyone will just move on. We'll see the occasional article next year with the old "what if" angle and a couple of quotes from coaches around the Big XII saying that "it's not the same," but that's as far as it will go. This is high-stakes business. This isn't the NFL where idiot players spout off in front of the camera. This is also why college football is far more respectable than the NFL.

Here endeth the lesson.

Absolutely. This guy is way too valuable to risk if we don't need him. I hope he gets to R&R and enjoy a week off.

They did it in 1975-76, 1959-60 and three in a row from 1943-45 Hmmm... We had Vince Ferragamo in 1975-1976 and we had Dennis claridge as our Qb from 1959-1960. I don't know anything about the 1940 Qbs. Dennis Claridge's daughter is my dentist. She's very good. If you're in Lincoln and you need a dentist... I highly recommend her.

I was thinking about this, too. I would absolutely love that to happen, if not for the fact that it would mean we lost to ISU again. If for some reason we lose to the Clones again, I will be rooting for them to face Baylor. Big time.

If we have the opportunity to do this I say we line it up like a punt, with Henery ten yards back with the holder. That'll give him more room to have a lower, driving angle on the ball.

We're veering off into grammar discussions, so I think it's time to send this thread packing.

Pittsburgh isn't an at-large in Steele's projection, they're the Big East winner. The Big East is still AQ conference. For now.

Those are good points, but Beebe won't get off the hook by not suspending Osborne. If he doesn't, people will start to compare the two hits and see that they're not that dissimilar, and the question of why Martin was suspended will come to the fore again. I see a rough road for Beebe either way this plays out.

True, and yet if you look around, a lot of pundits are saying Nebraska is the best team in the Big XII. Hard to say why the dichotomy.

I'm sorry, but they're not relevant. You could count the stripes on the shirts of the referee crews and average those out - still wouldn't be relevant. I applaud the effort and the work it took to make that post, but those numbers don't tell us what you'd like them to say. Off the top of my head I know a PAC-10 crew called the Washington game, if that helps. I think a Sun Belt crew called another game, but can't be certain, or tell you which one.

Unless Big XII referees did the W Kentucky, Idaho, Washington and SDSU games, those numbers are really irrelevant to this discussion. Further, the reality of the situation isn't average number of penalties, or average yards, but actual penalties vs. those called/not called. That's the true litmus test.

Which part of HUSKERboard are you finding confusing? What do you expect people to do, jump for joy that our players are being suspended and threatened with suspension?

I think we were playing at an unsustainably high level just then. It should also be remembered that Missouri has a good defense. The first quarter was more the aberration, not the second.

Clearly he doesn't have the range for 63 yarders. Lightweight.