caveman99

Agreed, great job by TA

I agree, your posting quality leaves a lot to be desired.

TA said he was not going to hire someone just to win the first presser, that was a reference to the SF hire. His point was that he was going to hire who he feels is the right candidate based his research. That being said, if a person is the right candidate, you don’t NOT hire him if he also happens to be a good presser guy.

I am not following, are you implying that TA hired Rhule because he will win the presser?

The only one of those three I would take over Rhule is Fickell.

He is widely considered a hot commodity of a coaching hire candidate that would generate a lot of buzz, mostly for surface-based reasons such as his public persona. Hiring Kiffen would bring national buzz and excitement because of this, that is what makes him a flashy candidate. Kleinman isn’t a flashy candidate, he isn’t the first person fans think off as a good target for their school to hire and wouldn’t generate the buzz hiring Kiffen would.

Pics or it didn’t happen

That part I bolded is your answer. Everyone keeps talking about getting a “flashy” hire and express disdain for any candidate that they deem as not flashy enough. Kiffen has positives, but honestly I would take Kleinman over Kiffen every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Frankly Kiffen’s resume and credentials don’t hold a candle to Kleinman’s, but for a large number of people apparently Kiffen is better because he is a flashy candidate.

Pure guess, but I think it would be a run heavy power spread.with option elements. Monken is big on establishing Offensive and Defensive systems that fit the job, both culture and level of talent available.

Dang it, this thread has 4 pages that could be contributing to the HC mega thread. Focus people!

I am 100% with you on all of those choices, though I would heavily prefer Monken over MJ.

Getting on TV helps build your brand, which helps you recruit. Recruiting is priority #1, 2, and 3 as soon as he takes the job due to the early signing period in just 3 weeks or so.

Fickell’s resume is better than 2 of the 3 you listed, and the 3rd isn’t interested in coaching anymore currently.

Hhhhmmmm Kuke Eickell doesn’t seem to work, but if you go 2 letters back you get Juke Dickell!

Luke Fickell is not anywhere close to the SF scenario. IMO, LF would be a homerun hire. LF was on OSU's staff under Jim Tressel for 9 seasons, the last 6 as the Co-DC/LB coach. He then had a stint as the interim HC at Ohio State for a season (2011) after JT left due to the scandal. Urban Meyer retained him on his new staff at OSU as the CO-DC/LB coach for 5 more seasons. LF then took the Cinncinati job in 2017. LF took over at Cincy after Tommy Tuberville was let go; TT inherited a 9-10 win Cincy program from Butch Jones and turned it into a 4 win program after 4 seasons and only 1 player drafted into the NFL. LF took a season to right the ship, winning only 4 games in his first season. After that, his Cincy teams went 11-2, 11-3, 9-1, and 13-1 last season (including an appearance in the CFB Playoff). His team last year had 9 players drafted into the NFL, including Sauce Gardiner, 5 of which went in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounds. This year LF's team is 9-2, despite losing a ton of talent off of last year's team, a tribute to the depth he has built there. Overall LF has a wealth of experience coaching under 2 national title winning coaches, he has experience what being the HC at a big time program would be like (admittedly just for 1 season, but he also had to deal with all of the interim coach pressures & questions at OSU that MJ has dealt with this year at NU), and he has built Cincy into a powerhouse program that will be moving to a power 5 conference next year. LF emphasizes O-Line play (https://www.si.com/college/cincinnati/football/luke-fickell-we-are-an-offensive-line-driven-program), culture, and player development. He also has the ability to properly assess and recruit talent, Cincy isn't quite as tough to recruit to as many non-P5 programs, but it doesn't have the same resources as say Nebraska. Despite the lack of resources, LF has Cincy 25th in the composite team recruiting rankings this year after inheriting a team that was in the 60's and 70's when he took over.

Try saying Fuke Lickel five times fast......

Well Trev’s son is a West Point graduate so that makes sense.

Pretty sure he is talking about Jeff not Todd

Please tell us more!

I will forget the squid part, but appreciate the compliment of Army/Monken. Monken already recruits nationally, all academies do. Admission is actually based on state population and directly correlates to the number of House Reps a state has since a member of Congress, either House or Senate, has to nominate you. In essence you are filling out 4 applications, one for the academy and one each for your local house rep and each senator. There are also a couple hundred of VP and Pres noms as well, but the bulk is through reps. Because of that, they have to recruit nationally by default, sort of like NU. If Monken adjusts his O scheme I think he could attract skill talent, plus he will bring a rep of having top notch D’s with him that his staff could use to attract top talent on that side of the ball. It wouldn’t hurt to bring Nate Woody or convince Jay Bateman to come back though for D-Coordinator.

I actually would be hoping that they ARE still ironing out the details if Rhule was my top pick. It would explain the delay.

I am listening……..