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While shopping at Wally-world this weekend I got in a huge line to check out when low and behold I realized that one of the guys in front of me was Prince Amukamara. I didn't say a word, just observed as the lady in front of us, who had a litany of 5 and under kids, tried to find enough money to pay for her groceries. Out of no where Prince pulled out some money, gave it to the clerk, and paid for the woman's groceries (like $60.00). First off, she had no idea who he was. Second off, he never offered to tell her who he was. He just said that God had blessed him in his life and that he liked blessing others. I felt like a piece of garbage because I'm quite sure I'm pulling down way more cash than this college kid (at least for the next 10 months until he makes more in a year than I will in my life-time!) and I was simply annoyed with this poor lady for holding up the line. Anyways, one of the coolest things I've ever witnessed and it just happened to be Prince Amukamara who did it... I know these guys get thrown under the bus all of the time when they screw up but its about time somebody reported something genuinly cool that normally would never make the news. My new favorite player: Prince Amukamara

I certainly hope you're right. I hope Sterup has a good enough head on his shoulders to understand that the class is close to being full on the OL, and they are going to be picky at this point. UCLA would sound pretty impressive to a kid from Hastings...and I'm not talking about the football aspect of it. He has to consider his future and if Nebraska wants to be a part of that then it's their gain - but at this point it doesn't look like it will be his loss if they don't. He'll end up somewhere with a solid program so good for him. At least he knows that and can wait until camp. If that offer doesn't come quickly after I'm guessing he'll move on. If I was him I'd be seeing Stanford and UCLA the first week school lets out rather than sit around waiting on NU though. H.I. teaser indicates an offer may be coming. I'm not so sure. Hastings is a small town, with deep Husker roots b.t.w., and the rumor around town is that there are some behavioral issues that the NU staff is aware of that many of these national offers likely are not. Doesn't mean there won't be an offer, just that NU is treading very carefully on this one. Cotton asked Sterup to stop by the football offices on the way to the state track meet today. I'm not a subscriber, but I think it's a safe bet to say that he got his offer. Very cool... Hope it works out! I don't think NU would have offered had there been any truth to the behavioral stuff.

I certainly hope you're right. I hope Sterup has a good enough head on his shoulders to understand that the class is close to being full on the OL, and they are going to be picky at this point. UCLA would sound pretty impressive to a kid from Hastings...and I'm not talking about the football aspect of it. He has to consider his future and if Nebraska wants to be a part of that then it's their gain - but at this point it doesn't look like it will be his loss if they don't. He'll end up somewhere with a solid program so good for him. At least he knows that and can wait until camp. If that offer doesn't come quickly after I'm guessing he'll move on. If I was him I'd be seeing Stanford and UCLA the first week school lets out rather than sit around waiting on NU though. H.I. teaser indicates an offer may be coming. I'm not so sure. Hastings is a small town, with deep Husker roots b.t.w., and the rumor around town is that there are some behavioral issues that the NU staff is aware of that many of these national offers likely are not. Doesn't mean there won't be an offer, just that NU is treading very carefully on this one.

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Agreed… a great conversation. I’m still not sure if I am convinced one way or the other. My original intent was actually just to ask the question to start a conversation. I guess I have been frustrated with the whole “Big 10 = no Texas recruits” conversation, which probably proved a catalyst for my O.P. and I haven’t minded playing the devil’s advocate to get the conversation moving. In truth, I was as shocked as anyone when I first discovered that we don’t have a starter from Texas on the roster and I felt like it would spurn a number of reactions from people on the board. It is kind of funny how passionate people get when you “mess with Texas”. There are a number of red-shirt sophomores/true Juniors starting for NU including Dennard (GA), Fisher (NE), Compton (MO), Smith (LA), so you can’t say young kids, when talented enough, can’t break the starting rotation over seniors. I also see less heralded kids from states like North Dakota (Qvale), impressing the coaches over analyst favorites like Ash, Coffey, and Thompson. Maybe the Texas kids aren’t over-rated, but sometimes it does seem like kids from small states (especially the Midwest) are under-rated by comparison.

I still disagree with you 100%. Your original question was "Is Texas recruiting overrated?" And the answer is NO, absolutely not. In 2008 and 2009, we got 8 kids from Texas each year. That means this fall the 2008 class will be redshirt sophomores. All kids take time to develop. You will eat your words year after year as long as we keep recruiting the state. Like I said before, we haven't had many Texas stars lately b/c Coach BC didn't recruit the state. Bo's first class almost entirely redshirted and are now just getting ready to even break the depth chart. Texas recruiting is not overrated at all....not even a little, not in the most minuscule way possible. I hear a lot of hyperbole, a bunch of excuses, and still not a starter on the team from Texas. Maybe someday? Really... I should hope so... We have 22 scholarship athletes from Texas. We only have 85 scholarships (thats 25% of our scholarships). No other state has a worse record when it comes to scholarship athletes on roster vs. starters. I'm just stating the facts. Just the shear numbers seem to demand that somebody could crack the starting line-up from Texas. We have more Nebraska walk-ons starting than Texas athletes. I'll take 22 extra scholarship athletes from the Mid-West any day; of course, I'm hardly a Texas apologist.

I still disagree with you 100%. Your original question was "Is Texas recruiting overrated?" And the answer is NO, absolutely not. In 2008 and 2009, we got 8 kids from Texas each year. That means this fall the 2008 class will be redshirt sophomores. All kids take time to develop. You will eat your words year after year as long as we keep recruiting the state. Like I said before, we haven't had many Texas stars lately b/c Coach BC didn't recruit the state. Bo's first class almost entirely redshirted and are now just getting ready to even break the depth chart. Texas recruiting is not overrated at all....not even a little, not in the most minuscule way possible.

I agree Texas recruiting is important from a depth standpoint: The players you mentioned on our roster are some of our best special-teams performers and back-up depth. If it wasn't for Texas O-lineman like B. Thompson, N. Ash, and J. Coffey our Nebraska born DT's wouldn't have a scout team to go against from what I hear and we couldn't cover kicks without guys like Andrew Green, Alonzo Whaley, and the Osbornes . Look...I have no doubt that recruiting analysts love to gush over the upside of Texas Recruits. But the truth is that recruits from the same classes, from other parts of the country, many less heralded, are seeing the field instead of/before the Texas kids. I am not arguing that Texas is not producing talent, just that its importance to NU football is over-rated perhaps. As far as 2011 recruits, we'll see in do-time, but I remember the same kind of hyperbole following recruits like Chris Williams, Will Henry, B. Thompson, Q. Castille, etc. and we've yet to see a star come out of Texas in this recent era. Probably the closest would be L.B. (Converted R.B.) Cody Glenn, who in fairness was lost on the depth chart at running back. The facts just don't seem to match the perceptions. I'm going to have to disagree 100% with you. Texas is probably the most important state to Nebraska football. The reason we haven't seen a "Texas star" at Nebraska in recent years is because Bill Callahan didn't recruit the state. The only kids he pulled out of Texas were Cody Glenn (3 RB), Castille (4 RB), Shawn Sullivan (3 DB), Marcus Mendoza (3 DB), and Will Henry (3 WR). None of these kids were rated very high outside of Castille.......and every person I know would tell you Castille is well worth the 4 s. Now that Bo/Beck have put a strong effort into Texas, I have no doubt that many of our stars will be Texas kids. It still takes Texas kids time to develop. For example, let's look at the stars at KU and MU over the last few years. Remember we took Beck from KU. Todd Reesing - Texas Dezmon Briscoe - Texas Chase Daniel - Texas Denario Alexander - Texas Sean weatherspoon - Texas Pretty amazing how the only star player on either of these teams over this time period to not come out of Texas is Jeremy Maclin. Also, pretty amazing that these two schools success on the field happened exactly when we sucked and didn't recruit Texas. You are smoking crack if you think it's only good to have Texas kids to fill up the depth chart and play special teams. Don't loose track of the origional question: Nobody has argued that its "only good to have Texas kids to fill up the depth chart and play special teams." Instead I'm making the argument that recent Texas recruiting success has made little impact on the current Huskers. We will have 22 Texas kids on schalarship on the fall roster for 2010 and not one for sure positional starter (save for Kunalic who likely red-shirts). Conversely we'll have 16 Nebraska kids on scholarship and no less than 7 starters from Nebraska (R. Henry, Caputo, Paul, Legate, Crick, Steinkuhler, Fisher, A. Henry). I'm not arguing that recruiting Texas isn't important... just over-rated to NU's recent & immediate success.

I agree Texas recruiting is important from a depth standpoint: The players you mentioned on our roster are some of our best special-teams performers and back-up depth. If it wasn't for Texas O-lineman like B. Thompson, N. Ash, and J. Coffey our Nebraska born DT's wouldn't have a scout team to go against from what I hear and we couldn't cover kicks without guys like Andrew Green, Alonzo Whaley, and the Osbornes . Look...I have no doubt that recruiting analysts love to gush over the upside of Texas Recruits. But the truth is that recruits from the same classes, from other parts of the country, many less heralded, are seeing the field instead of/before the Texas kids. I am not arguing that Texas is not producing talent, just that its importance to NU football is over-rated perhaps. As far as 2011 recruits, we'll see in do-time, but I remember the same kind of hyperbole following recruits like Chris Williams, Will Henry, B. Thompson, Q. Castille, etc. and we've yet to see a star come out of Texas in this recent era. Probably the closest would be L.B. (Converted R.B.) Cody Glenn, who in fairness was lost on the depth chart at running back. The facts just don't seem to match the perceptions.

We all agree that Texas recruiting is important just for the sheer number of D1 players the state produces... but is it over-rated? NU currently has more scholarship athletes from Texas than anywhere, and yet, I can't find a single 1(a) starter from Texas on the roster (I've got Cody Green and Rex Burkhead as 1b's on my projected depth chart for the fall). I know taking the name "Texas" in vein is akin to blasphemy in some circles but there are people who think we can't survive without recruiting Texas (a position against moving to the big 10), and the facts just don't ad up. The facts are that Nebraska is currently getting more quality P.T. out of fewer scholarship recruits from CA, KS, AZ, LA and MO than Texas. I'm not saying there’s not top talent in Texas, were just not consitently getting it, and the players we are getting are solid, just not a lot of starters yet. 2010 Projected Starters (by way of) Offense: QB: Zac Lee (CA) RB: Roy Helu (CA) FB: Legate/Zimmerer (NE/NE) OL: Hardrick/Smith (KS/NV) Williams (MO), Caputo (NE), Henry (NE), Jones/Qvale/Sirles (AZ/ND/CO) WR: Paul (NE), Kinne (KS), McNeil (MO) TE: Young/Reed/Cotton? (NE/KS/NE) Defense: DL: Meredith (CA), Crick (NE), Steinkuhler/Moore (NE/LA), Allen (CO) LB: Fisher (NE), Compton (MO) Peso: Hagg (AZ) DB's: Smith/Thenarse (LA/CA), Gomes (CA), Dennard (NC), Amukamara (AZ) Don't get me wrong Texas recruiting is padding our depth all over, they make wicked special team players: Whaley, Kunalic, Blue, etc. I just don't buy that we can't find comparable athletes else ware if we had to. What do you think?

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Damon Benning reported on 1620 espn that Suh posted a 35 1/2" Vertical. That is officialy a "freak" number for a guy that measured 6'4" and 309 lbs.

I know we lost Owa but look on the bright side: We could be Western Kentucky 1. They just lost the most high profile recruit in their programs history in Carnes 2. They have to play Nebraska, to whom they lost said recruit, at Memorial Stadium, to start 2010. 3. They're nicknamed the "HILL TOPPERS"? 4. Their mascot looks like the by product of an illicit affair between McDonalds character Grimmace and a red bean bag chair. Just coping with the Owa loss like everyone else.

There is now a teaser about it. this would be huge but could be HI trying to sell some last minute subscribtions They are reporting that the WK rivals guy is putting the odds in our favor with Carnes! Sean Callahan said he's hearing its 60/40 Carnes ends up at Nebraska- Source: the KFAB Husker brief this morning at 6:50 a.m.