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I agree with you. But he said he was going there for the academics. So football should be just a secondary matter to him right?

Id like to start this years class with a quality QB though. He averaged over 200 yards on the ground and 200 yards through the air a game this year in Texas 5a football. Passing: 165/243 attempts 2063 yards 206.3 per game .679% 14 TDs 9 INTs Rushing: 215 att. 2032 yards 9.45 ypc 203.2 ypg 18 TDs 3 fumbles lost This was all on a team that apparently wasnt very good.

I'll say it again, I hate bringing south Florida recruits for visits in January... but hopefully the damn weather will warm up during his visit and we can get him N. I think Levitt going Bob Knight on a player put us back in contention for a few kids. Not this one in particular though.

Yeah, but I'm not too worried about it either. I think we should focus on Cooper, Hill, Heard, and Lamb and call it good this year. Then go after 2 QB's next year. With the recent events at S. Florida and Levitt if an athlete like Carnes wants N I THINK we will make room for him.

Bo has said multiple times that he wants a multiple offense. We didnt bring Cody Green here to run the west coast offense. At least I hope not.

I will eat crow on this one as it appears he will visit in January and we are recruiting him rather hard. Sorry. My sources were off on this one.

This kid we are talking about.

^ This.

Yeah I remember that, it is why I didn't see this one coming. I wonder if NU backed off because Tyler committed? I believe this ^ to be the case. But I could be wrong. Another reason to dislike Mizzou and Tyler Gabbert.

Havnt heard too much at this point Cave. Ill post more when I learn more.

http://fe1.rivals.sports.ac4.yahoo.com/neb...on-Carnes-81011 4 star kid from Florida. Staff is putting the full court press on him. Some of you might know his cousin. His cousin would be a guy by the name of Tommie Frazier? Ring a bell?

Heard on another board that he will be making his announcement SOMETIME before signing day. Not at the AA game. Could be anytime between now and signing day.

I think Carter ends up at LSU now, he has always indicated that they would be his first choice if they offered and now I think LSU will. I think the NU staff wants Austin Hill more than Sasser right now. I like Sasser also, but Hill is a very good prospect in his own right.

To me it explains why we do a lot of the things we do. It explains why our play calling is completely off the wall.

That is good news for us. Because if he was so sold on Oregon he would have already made that choice.

I was thinking the same thing but was afraid to make the comparison in fear of being laughed at. But I definately see the comparison. He is my favorite WR recruit to be honest. Much more impressed with his film than I was Keeston Terry.

Yes but I dont think that is who they are talking about.

Saw the same this morning but I have not been able to crack the code and find out which player it might be.

I like his speed and athleticism.. but with the number of RB's we currently have on scholly and those we're picking up this year esp if we get Heard, I could see Lamb playing a position like CB rather than RB on our roster. I would see him falling behind Burkhead, Trey, Heard and Green on the roster.

Would still be violating NCAA rules, I believe O.O could visit Suh though. Suh just can't initiate contact. Easy way out of that. Have our coaches call OO and tell him to call Suh. Im thinking like Pete "the cheat" Carrol and Lane Kiffin already!

Marlowe is actually Bo's nephew. And yes he did go to Cardinal Mooney and played QB.

Cant remember if this is against the rules. If it is mods please delete. From Wikipedia: Theory The popular term "West Coast Offense" is more of a philosophy and an approach to the game than it is a set of plays or formations. Traditional offensive thinking argues that a team must establish its running game first, which will draw the defense in and open up vertical passing lanes downfield (i.e., passing lanes that run perpendicular to the line of scrimmage). Bill Walsh's West Coast Offense, however, differs from traditional offense by instead emphasizing a short, horizontal passing attack to help stretch the defense out, thus opening up running lanes. The West Coast Offense as implemented under Walsh features precisely run pass patterns by the receivers that make up about 65% to 80% of the offensive scheme. With the defense stretched out, the offense is then free to focus the remaining plays on longer throws (more than 14 yards) and mid to long yard rushes. Desired Outcome Walsh's West Coast Offense attempts to open up running and passing lanes for the backs and receivers to exploit, by causing the defense to concentrate on short passes. Since most down and distance situations can be attacked with a pass or a run, the intent is to make offensive play calling unpredictable and thus keep the defense's play "honest". Beyond the basic principle of passing to set up the run, there are few rules that govern Walsh's West Coast Offense. Originally the offense used two split backs, giving it an uneven alignment in which five players aligned to one side of the ball and four players aligned on the other side (with the quarterback and center directly behind the ball). Although Walsh-influenced teams now commonly use formations with more or fewer than two backs, the offense's unevenness is still reflected in its pass protection philosophy and continues to distinguish it from single back passing offenses. Throughout the years, coaches have added to, adjusted, modified, simplified, and enhanced Bill Walsh's original adaptation of the Paul Brown offense. Formations and plays vary greatly, as does play calling. Another key part of the Walsh implementation was "pass first, run later." It was Walsh's intention to gain an early lead by passing the ball, then run the ball on a tired defense late in the game, wearing them down further and running down the clock. The San Francisco 49ers, under both Bill Walsh and George Seifert, often executed this very effectively. Another key element in Walsh's attack was the three step dropback instead of traditional seven step drops or shotgun formations. The three step drop helped the quarterback get the ball out faster resulting in far fewer sacks. "WCO" plays unfold quicker than in traditional offenses and are usually based on timing routes by the receivers. In this offense the receivers also have reads and change their routes based on the coverages presented to them. The quarterback makes three reads and if no opportunity is available after three reads, the QB will then check off to a back or tight end. Five step and even 7 step dropbacks are now implemented in modern day WCO's because defensive speed has increased since the 80's. Some modern WCO's have even used shotgun formations (e.g. Green Bay, Atlanta '04-'06, Philadelphia '04-present ). Typical Plays The majority of West Coast Offense routes occur within 15 yards of the line of scrimmage. 3-step and 5-step drops by the quarterback to take the place of the run and force the opposing defense to commit their focus solely on those intermediate routes. Contrary to popular belief, the offense also uses the 7-step drop for shallow crosses, deep ins and comebacks. For instance, past Michigan Wolverines offenses utilized the 5- and 7-step drops about 85% of the time with West Coast pass schemes implemented by then-Quarterbacks Coach Scot Loeffler. Because of the speed of modern defenses, only utilizing the 3- and 5-step pass game would be ineffective since the defense could squat and break hard on short-to-intermediate throws with no fear of a downfield pass. The original West Coast Offense of Sid Gillman uses some of the same principles (pass to establish the run, quarterback throws to timed spots), but offensive formations are generally less complicated with more wideouts and motion. The timed spots are often farther downfield than in the Walsh-style offense, and the system requires a greater reliance on traditional pocket passing. Another aspect that makes the West Coast offense one of the most difficult to master is that it requires a deeper connection between quarterback and receiver. More specifically, on any given route, a receiver has as much as three options (i.e. hitch vs. slant vs. fly) depending on what the defense is showing. The quarterback is responsible for recognizing the defense and adjusting the route if needed. This explains the communication mistakes that commonly occurs on West Coast offensive plays where the quarterback throws to a spot that the receiver is running away from. Scripted Plays A Walsh innovation was scripting the first 15 offensive plays of the game (Walsh went as far as to scripting the first 25 plays but most teams stop at 15). Since the offensive team knew that the first 15 plays would be run as scripted no matter what, they could practice those plays to perfection, minimizing mistakes and penalties. Success of the offense could establish momentum and dictate the flow of the game. It also gave the coaching staff an opportunity to run test plays against the defense to gauge their reactions in game situations. Later in the game, an observed tendency in a certain situation by the opposing defense could be exploited. Requirements and disadvantages The West Coast offense requires a quarterback who throws extremely accurately, and often blindly, very close to opposing players. In addition, it requires the quarterback to be able to quickly pick one of 5 receivers to throw to — much more quickly than previously used systems. Often, the quarterback cannot think about the play, but instead reacts instinctively — and thus is often under the control of the offensive coordinator, calling the plays for him. This is in contrast to the previous quarterback requirements of other systems, which were an adept game manager and a strong arm. Thus, for example, many people reasoned that Johnny Unitas, a strong-armed field general would not have fared well in being subservient to the offensive coordinator, and that his long but sometimes wobbly passes would not have worked in the new system. The West Coast offense caused a split still evident today among quarterbacks: those who were more adept at the West Coast style (Joe Montana, Steve Young, Brett Favre, Matt Hasselbeck) and those more in tune with the old style (Dan Marino, Jim Kelly). Rich Gannon is a good example of a quarterback who fared better in one system than the other. Gannon struggled in the old style system but found great success with the Oakland Raiders and the West Coast system run by head coach Jon Gruden. Also, the West Coast offense requires sure-handed receivers comfortable catching in heavy traffic, and the system downplays speedy, larger receivers who are covered easily in short yardage situation. One result has been the longevity of receivers in the West Coast system (such as the notable Jerry Rice) because a decline in speed is not as harmful, when, in "stretch the field" systems, a receiver who loses a step is a major liability. "WCO" systems also rely on agile running backs that catch the ball as often as they run. Roger Craig was a leading receiver for the 49ers for many years and was a 1,000 yard rusher and 1,000 yard receiver in the 1985 season. Finally, receivers must follow precise, complicated routes as opposed to innovation; so meticuluous, intelligent players are valued more than independent, pure athletes. Finally, the West Coast offense, with its emphasis on quick reactive skills, can be seen to further develop the running quarterback motif, where extremely fast running quarterbacks (Randall Cunningham, Michael Vick, and Vince Young) and other notable scrambling quarterbacks (Jake Plummer and Donovan McNabb) are valued, if they are good passers, because in blitz or short-yardage situations, when the West Coast offense's value is negated, the running quarterback can make up this difference by posing a threat to make the first down himself, paralyzing an aggressive defense.

NU offered 16 QBs this year. MU offered 8. Mizzou got a solid QB commitment from James Franklin way early in the process. Pinkeye didn't need to keep recruiting QBs. NU did not have that luxury. NU kept in touch with QB recruits all along because our QB recruit came from a family with a reputation for reneging on their commitments. Maybe next year our staff should be more cautious about the integrity of recruits we go after. Turner and Smith are the main two qbs that I see in the 2011 class. Many people knock on Turner's height but I believe he is only 16 years old. He should end up around 6ft2-3 hopefully. Great athlete. We were his first offer, he was up here for the OU game so we are in a great position to land him.

A lot of people dont realize that this was a defense heavy year from the beginning for NU. These were my thoughts exactly SkersChicago. I took a look at their 4 star kids and realized that they were not very heavily recruited. You would think that Holt: 4 star Mizzou pledge from TEXAS would be a bit more heavily recruited than he was. That just doesnt add up. A four star kid from TEXAS with very few offers. Could mean that he is overrated. NOT SAYING HE IS. OR HE MAY BE A GRADE RISK. You would have to think that he would have to have at least been in contact with some more big schools even if he was a grade risk though. But I believe that our ranking is watered down a bit because of the lack of players in this class. I dont think that we will get into the top 20. Even if we do land 2 out of the following 3: Owa, Cooper, Heard. Mizzou should only be taking 2-3 guys correct? Their class is at 19. They have something like 14 WRs coming back right???? But yet they stand a good chance to add 4 in this class. Hunt, Carter, Lucas, Sasser. To me, that seems very odd. The only two that I would imagine you would make room for if they wanted to come are Carter and Lucas. Sasser and Hunt arent exactly "cant miss" talents. They are good additions but not exactly kids that one would make room for. Good post fro daddy. I broke it up so I could comment further on your thoughts. I tend to look at offers lists as well. I do agree with you that if a kid commits very early that not many offers will show up on his list. Husker fans see: Andrew Rodriguez and Ryne Reeves. But at the same time if the kid is good enough he will still continue to compile offers. See: Tyler Moore 2011 Husker pledge. I do agree that Tyler Moore is a complete different situation because he is the top junior OT. A kid that talented of course will still be sought after. But offers lists do mean something is what I am getting at. NU also has been very "opportunistic" in their recruiting methods if you will. We find kids that nobody else gives the time of day to. See: Eric Martin 2009 pledge, and Quincy Enunwa. Quick story regaurding Eric Martin- the kid if from SoCal. Carl Pelini was at a spring football camp I believe that Pete Carrol also attended. Eric Martin was there and he was going against some USC recruits. Not sure about their names. He dominated them. He was the talk of the camp. After every play Eric made Pete Carrol would look at Carl Pelini and shake his head. Pete the cheat knew he missed out on a good one. We can still pull some of the top talent because of our tradition and our gameday atmosphere. If we can get kids on an official on a day that there is a night game in Lincoln.... then our chances increase ten fold. The staff is really able to locate the talent they want and offer them early so the kid has a feeling of loyalty towards them and then hold on and make the kids top 3. We will get our fair share of talent that way. Anyways good posts Fro and Skers. Good discussion.

NWMS?? I got a few friends that play there. Seems like a nice place to go to school. yeah. Its a pretty good spot. I had a pretty good time there too.