SealBeachHusker

Dude, talking about the rule in general, no dead horse beating here. I've posted as much as anyone my thoughts on the Holiday Bowl. It's an odd rule, to address a problem that didn't seem to be that big of an issue from a fan perspective. Perhaps it was resulting in concussions more regularly, but it didn't seem to be that common to institute yet another rule that ties defenders hands.

True, the collar is about the only thing you can get a hand on when chasing from behind...at the very least, it's going to be the first available thing to grab on to. How else are you supposed to grab a guy accelerating away from you. Is the expectation that you can only catch a guy from behind if the tackler is fast enough to arm tackle him around the shoulder or waist. Was there a rash of horse collar injuries? I had not ever heard of this being an issue until the rule was implemented.

http://www.ncaapublications.com/Uploads/PD...4f15136079d.pdf SECTION 29. Timing Devices The game clock would imply only a single game clock is kept...by the appropriate official.

I think the lack of 2nd/3rd place votes is indicative of the well known offensive bias. Those open minded enough for a DT to be on the ballot at all, recognize his dominance and more often than not vote him #1. Those who simply vote TD's and Yards are gonna put up the usual suspects and completely ignore the defensive guy. As in all sports, any off the street half ass sports aficionado is going to be easily wowed by points. It's the more knowledgeable and nuanced sports fans that appreciate the defensive aspect of sports. Guess what I'm sayin' is the smart sport folks are gonna be the ones voting for Suh....seems we also have a lot of those of the "not so smart" variety as well.

I taught a Marketing course at UNL and had Dan Alexander in the class...he was awesome, worked his butt off, and never expected favoritism. Saw other players in class with the same attitude. On the other hand, had a receiver in a grad course, who was a complete douche and slacker. I think there are good and bad scholar athletes, but I do think their hard work and dedication often translates into the classroom as well.

Can't speak for the rest of the country, but on the West coast Arizona really did makes it's way onto the scene in the Pac 10. Prior to back to back losses at Cal and Oregon they were being touted as a Pac 10 championship contender. Also, just the fact that they upset USC so recently on a nationally televised game provided them with some street cred. They put up a lot of points, but don't think they have seen a D like ours all year. Should be a fun match up.

Are the clocks synchronized? Did the field clock and TV clock start at the same time? We are now talking fractions of a second here. Just as in soccer, the only time that should matter is the time on the field...or simply synchronize the field time and the rest of the clocks. Additionally, a ref making a call within a fraction of a second of the play being called should not result in extra game time being provided. If the clock is clearly off of the play call...multiple seconds...then consider it "egregious" and add some time. But, when the clock stoppage is consistent with the rest of the game officiating then punish the team who attempted another play with time running out, not the team on defense IMO.

I don't know, while I agree it's not part of some large conspiracy, the fact that people know both systems are extremely flawed and exclude others from significant participation, would seem to indicate some level of "corruption". With the BCS, it is common knowledge that the system is set up to exclude the non-BCS schools...forcing them to have success to a higher standard than the rest. As for the Heiseman, it too excludes non-BCS schools and heavily favors offensive players. When you KNOW your methods are imperfect to such an extent and simply allow them to be that way, I would consider that at least a minimal level of corruption.

I figured that's what you meant, and I happen to agree. But, even though many of us think the BCS is a crock, we'd still be pulling for the good guys if we were in the MNC game. Same here. I know the Heisman is a crock, but if we could get our guy in there...who cares. Have to agree, though, especially listening to some of the Colt McCoy and Tebow supporters on the radio (there's still a few out there) the award is not awarded the way it was intended.

That one of our own would receive such national recognition? I think beyond the fact that Suh deserves it, the PR for the University, team and recruiting are pretty significant.

Lol...you don't have to convince me....I say play it!!! Over and over again.

I happen to feel that way about both Tebow and Bradford, but Colt comes across as very arrogant. His response to the last play questions are BS, and flat out wrong in terms of knowing the basic rules of football. Did he really think the play is dead when the ball crosses the out of bounds line?? He's a QB...shouldn't he know that basic rule?

Agree with zoog' here, I think we play the QB that is likely to do the least amount of damage. We need to put ourself in the best position to win this game. Holiday Bowl is one of the most popular non-BCS Bowls, it's important to win this one. Besides, we owe Zona a beat down from our last Holiday Bowl visit. This is exactly correct. I spent the better part of this season saying Lee should be our quarterback and that it was the right choice. However, it's become clear that Lee has not progressed through the season, and the argument could be made that he has regressed. If Lee is not capable of moving the offense, we are better off putting Green in now. There is nothing to play for this season. We have some recruits to impress and it would be nice if we were ranked at the end, but we're not gunning for any kind of title. It costs us nothing at this point to put Green in. If he's the guy we're banking on for the next three years, it's foolish to have burned his redshirt for (by my guesstimate) 86 plays. That's barely more than one game's worth of snaps. We're fools if we burned his shirt for that. Green should start this game. If he doesn't, he should see significant playing time. If not, this season is a blunder on the part of our staff. (emphasis mine) knapplc, I respect you a lot and enjoy reading your posts, but I could not disagree more here. If only it were as easy as "beat into his head not to throw picks." Or stare down receivers. A QB does not simply decide to throw a pick, or to stare down receivers. They do it because the game is too fast for them, because the defense is too good, because their throws not good enough, and a host of other reasons. If he's just going to try to tuck and get what he can whenever he doesn't see a clear, easy throw (or what he thinks is one but isn't because he doesn't recognize the D), he may as well just take a knee from the snap. Less yardage lost. I also wonder if rolling out makes the job easier or harder on Green. It buys time, but he's also throwing on the run. Can he do that at the college level? Lee has done a fine job with the short passes off of rollouts actually. And the TEs, well, we would use them if he could. I don't think Watson just forgot that McNeil is one of our best players. After all, he was the one who featured him last year and watched the guy breakout. I think opposing defenses know they can take away the TE because they aren't worried about the sacrifice they make in doing so; our WRs and QB don't scare anyone. Lastly, there is plenty to play for this season. If our coaching staff ever treats a single game as one that doesn't matter, they deserve to be fired. That would be the real blunder.

Similar to soccer, where the official time is kept on the field. This would make it different than many of the basketball comparisons I've seen made. I have a feeling the NCAA offers a "clarification" in the off season to address this.

One of the reasons I'm excited about watching the Heisman ceremony is because of the highlight reels. It's inevitable that they'll show that play. It's probably the defining moment that woke the Heisman voters up, which in turn gave him his invite to NY. The best part is, McCoy will be seated in vicinity of it all. Perhaps he'll be a little embarrassed seeing Suh just dominate him on film along with a house full of high society suit & ties in the audience. What worries me is according to ESPN online poll, there still seems to be a strong regional influence on who people are pulling for....just hoping that the voters are a little more "in the know"...and it also seems Suh became a bit of a trendy pick for Sunday and Monday. Hope that all translates into a win!

LOL...wouldn't it be classic if Suh wins the Heisman and they cue up that highlight?

I know stiffarmtrophy has our man Suh 3rd, but there really does seem to be a concerted media rally for the guy. I just hope this is indicative of how people were voting.

I'm with you Stu. When he first came on stage I was really impressed with with. But, every time I hear him speak...he becomes a bigger ass.

I agree, Zona should not be taken lightly, but Zona also has not faced a D like ours before. Pac 10 does not even have a D in the top 20. And out passing D is as good or better than ASU, who seemed to give Foley fits.

Yet they still have a lead Heisman story stating "McCoy leads Heisman finalists"

PAC 10 doesn't have any team ranked in the top 20 for total defense, so not entirely sure you've seen anything quite as disruptive as the Blackshirts. And our passing defense is at least as good as ASU, who seemed to give Foley a fit. Will be a fun game as Zona's D is solid, and we have a subpar offense, but I really have to think that the D will be a bit overwhelming for Foley...just look how McCoy and that Oline were manhandled.

They have some formula they use that accounts for the various regional influences. They assume that within a region the vote will be similar to the votes they've already received. So, they are likely assuming there Ingram will get more East/South votes and that Gerhardt will get more West votes as those areas have a higher concentration of Heisman votes. I'm still hoping they are wrong.

been awhile huh? lol does feel good to know we should be in every game.

Deserved it...earned it. Does suck.

Alright dude, you got me pumped! I'm N!